Mining Rig that honestly works - a recommendation

jjj0923

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Quote from: danilom on March 21, 2014, 09:31:05 AM

HI all.

I think is your first rig, so my opinion is:

-Be aware "Sophisticated" MOBO that can be a pain, try to use Comercial models with 4 or 5 PCI-e (split your cards)
-Dont use expensive CPU you dont need them, use Semprom or a cheapest 64bit new CPU if exist.
-Use at least 1.5gb RAM for each GPU card, if you have more RAM you can increase TC and avoid HW.
-Dont use a Case, use Open rigs home made is good
-Use Only 24cm Powered Riser, put the cards separately you need air flow
-Buy a big Fan to help air flow in the cards
-Use HD or SSD drive if you can (cheap USB flash are slow, and gonna die any moment)
-I recommend to use Linux, Debian or your_favorite distro, only with X server(_no_ Desktop Env.), ssh server, and AMD drivers

--IF YOU-- dont want to deal with ssh sessions, Terminals, Nano or Vi editor, Compiling Miners, Downloding with wget. USE WIN

Plus, tunning a Rig take from 3days -7days (optimal values)

I hope this can help

P.S.: (Linux)In some MOBO you have to disable Integrated LAN, and use common PCI LAN Card.

thank you so much - yes - I have a valid Windows 7 64 bit license to use on this server

danilom

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Hi SuchMoon

I wrote: "I think is your first rig, so my opinion is:"

If *you* ask me, im going to tell you about other things, like Xintensity, RawIntensity.
_but_ People new in mining, have to "start" in some point, they have to learn..

More RAM, always is better.
I used BAMT like Flash disk, but after 2 years im tired to have a "drawer full of replacements" and downtime for File system Failure, So using now only using SSD HD, more secure, less downtime = more income

but after all, is only my opinion as i said, thanks for sharing your.. im going to look at this USB type risers.

suchmoon

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Quote from: danilom on March 21, 2014, 09:31:05 AM

HI all.

I think is your first rig, so my opinion is:

-Be aware "Sophisticated" MOBO that can be a pain, try to use Comercial models with 4 or 5 PCI-e (split your cards)
-Dont use expensive CPU you dont need them, use Semprom or a cheapest 64bit new CPU if exist.
-Use at least 1.5gb RAM for each GPU card, if you have more RAM you can increase TC and avoid HW.
-Dont use a Case, use Open rigs home made is good
-Use Only 24cm Powered Riser, put the cards separately you need air flow
-Buy a big Fan to help air flow in the cards
-Use HD or SSD drive if you can (cheap USB flash are slow, and gonna die any moment)
-I recommend to use Linux, Debian or your_favorite distro, only with X server(_no_ Desktop Env.), ssh server, and AMD drivers

--IF YOU-- dont want to deal with ssh sessions, Terminals, Nano or Vi editor, Compiling Miners, Downloding with wget. USE WIN

Plus, tunning a Rig take from 3days -7days (optimal values)

I hope this can help

P.S.: (Linux)In some MOBO you have to disable Integrated LAN, and use common PCI LAN Card.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with some of your advice. Not sure where you got the 1.5GB RAM rule, I have not had any issues running 6 cards on 4GB RAM, from R9 270 to 280X. Recent cgminer clones with xintensty/rawintensity work very well with lower TC values and 2 threads. Risers are probably a matter of preference, I would suggest 50-60cm "USB" type, these are cheap enough, much more reliable and offer a lot more flexibility than short "ribbon" style risers. No need to use "favorite distro" or compile miners - use BAMT (or of course Windows if Linux of any kind is too scary). Cheap USB flash drives are fine for BAMT, for a price of one SSD you can keep a drawer full of replacements in the unlikely event of failure.

danilom

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HI all.

I think is your first rig, so my opinion is:

-Be aware "Sophisticated" MOBO that can be a pain, try to use Comercial models with 4 or 5 PCI-e (split your cards)
-Dont use expensive CPU you dont need them, use Semprom or a cheapest 64bit new CPU if exist.
-Use at least 1.5gb RAM for each GPU card, if you have more RAM you can increase TC and avoid HW.
-Dont use a Case, use Open rigs home made is good
-Use Only 24cm Powered Riser, put the cards separately you need air flow
-Buy a big Fan to help air flow in the cards
-Use HD or SSD drive if you can (cheap USB flash are slow, and gonna die any moment)
-I recommend to use Linux, Debian or your_favorite distro, only with X server(_no_ Desktop Env.), ssh server, and AMD drivers

--IF YOU-- dont want to deal with ssh sessions, Terminals, Nano or Vi editor, Compiling Miners, Downloding with wget. USE WIN

Plus, tunning a Rig take from 3days -7days (optimal values)

I hope this can help

P.S.: (Linux)In some MOBO you have to disable Integrated LAN, and use common PCI LAN Card.

jjj0923

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Quote from: suchmoon on March 20, 2014, 07:49:52 PM

Quote from: jjj0923 on March 19, 2014, 06:24:18 AM

too bad this:

ASRock H61 Pro BTC mobo

can't be found anywhere in the U.S. - no one has it.

bummer

H81 works fine too. N82E16813157471.

that's great because I ordered one yesterday

suchmoon

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Quote from: jjj0923 on March 19, 2014, 06:24:18 AM

too bad this:

ASRock H61 Pro BTC mobo

can't be found anywhere in the U.S. - no one has it.

bummer

H81 works fine too. N82E16813157471.

Minerist

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such ego much stupid wow

jjj0923

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you started the name calling now deal with it - no one asked you for a snide remark. Ubuntu is a tool - a computer is a tool. I take no sides and could care less what I tool I use as long as the tool works.

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Quote from: jjj0923 on March 19, 2014, 04:22:51 PM

it's a helluva lot better than WINDOZE! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Please read the post again, I was editing it.

Nobody here cares about the drama you are bringing, that's for Ubuntuforums (or on the other side of the fence some MSFT equivalent crap). Coin miners don't care. What matters is maximizing hashrate, reducing upfront and power cost, maximizing ROI. Of course, with some convenience like remote access, monitoring, etc...

If you have a valid Windows license and refuse to even test to see if your hardware works, I will not waste my time. Good luck.

jjj0923

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it's a helluva lot better than WINDOZE! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Wipeout2097

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Your problem may not be your mining rig, but Ubuntu.

For dedicated coin mining, one uses the OS that sucks less and gets less in the way.

There are mining dedicated distros like BAMT, SMOS Linux or even WinPE based CraPE. If you choose a generic OS or Linux distro you have to prepare it and deal with it's issues. Windows for sure isn't without them either.

irrational

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Quote from: jjj0923 on March 17, 2014, 04:59:32 AM

to mine asic resistant coins in addition to my s1 miners and my gridseeds - that's why

there are more coins out there than just bitcoin and litecoin and you might be very surprised to find out the profitability with the right equipment, but that's good for me since there are so many mining lemmings chanting the bitcoin and litecoin mantra.

LOL

My point was that you were in the wrong forum section, but it looks like this post has already been moved.

jjj0923

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too bad this:

ASRock H61 Pro BTC mobo

can't be found anywhere in the U.S. - no one has it.

bummer

Boris-The-Blade

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Quote from: jjj0923 on March 16, 2014, 11:20:56 PM

I wasted 6 hours today with expensive crap that the local (Newark de) Tiger direct sold me trying to build my first mining rig.

Asus Intel z87-Pro MOB
Intel Core i7-4770K processor
8 gb 1866 Mhz DDr3 Ram

it's all getting returned tomorow

my preference is Ubuntu, but in a pinch I'll run Windows 7 since I have a valid license)

and for 6 hours I tried to get my MSI -R9 290X video board working and finally at 11:30 tonight I took it all apart and back it goes tomorrow.

I have a power supply and a great video board to start mining with - nw all I need is a great motherboard that actually works.

Who can make a recommendation and please NO INTEL integrated Network adapters because Ubuntu has no drivers for the new Intel Integrated Network adapters.

I want a machine that will handle four video boards for me to do asic-resistant mining and one that will actually load and recognize the onboard network adapter (preferably western digital) and will recognise my MSI R9 290X video board.

I want a recommedation from something you have that actually works - not pie in the sky speculation - I simply don't have the time to dicking around with shit that does not work.

thanks!

These are nice cases for GPU's

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dopamine-cryptocurrency-mining-case-by-red-harbinger

I ordered a Dopamine

Biffa

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Quote from: jjj0923 on March 17, 2014, 09:58:10 AM

cool - does not need a case - thanks

so you like the 270's over the 280X's?

270's are a lot cheaper than 280X's, don't bother about the 270X its just an overclocked 270

6 x 270's will mine just under 3MH/s Scrypt @ under 1000W undervolted and overclocked. Not sure about Scrypt-jane or the other asic resistant variants

Also use BAMT (linux based mining OS that runs of a USB stick) no need for HDD

The other option is the Nvidia 750Ti - Does 320Kh/s @ 60W per card. Downside is mining with cudaminer in windows, its not really designed for bigger setups, but it works and they run very cool. You just need more of them to get up to the same mh/s for a rig

Boris-The-Blade

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Quote from: irrational on March 17, 2014, 12:24:48 AM

I'm confused, why are you wasting your money/time with GPUs?

He could mine Litecoins and swap them for Bitcoins.
Or keep the Litecoins i see there looking quite promising these days.

jjj0923

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cool - does not need a case - thanks

so you like the 270's over the 280X's?

Biffa

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Dedicated miner or regular PC that mines?

Does it need a case?

If it was me I'd go for a:

ASRock H61 Pro BTC mobo
6 PCIE 1x to 16x USB powered risers
Cheapest dual core celeron you can get
8GB ram
6 x R9 270's or 6 x GTX750Tis
USB thumb drive with BAMT
XFX/Seasonic/EVGA 1000W PSU (for 270's)

jjj0923

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to mine asic resistant coins in addition to my s1 miners and my gridseeds - that's why

there are more coins out there than just bitcoin and litecoin and you might be very surprised to find out the profitability with the right equipment, but that's good for me since there are so many mining lemmings chanting the bitcoin and litecoin mantra.

LOL

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Quote from: irrational on March 17, 2014, 12:24:48 AM

I'm confused, why are you wasting your money/time with GPUs?

Some people use their gaming rigs to mine when not using them. Serious miners will not use GPU's obviously......

Hope that helps with your confusion....

J

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