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August 03, 2017, 01:25:08 PM
#34
Wrong Move Bro. You can't say how Stable the Electricity in your Work Place because
of Distribution of Electricity in each Device Or Unit Inside your Workplace/Company.
has a  Chance of CPU might malfunction . and Some Sector Of Hardisk  might get Corrupted.
So Goodluck bro.
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August 03, 2017, 12:57:35 PM
#33
Definitely ask for permission first. I doubt they'll allow it. You'll have better luck at smaller companies rather than big ones.

This is the only post in the whole thread that even attempted to give you good advice. Everything else is just trying to skirt around the core question, is your boss ok with it? Unless you own the company all by yourself, you will answer to someone else, as even CEO's answer to their company's Board and stockholders.

If your boss does agree, it would be a good idea to get it in writing, such as an email rather than just as a verbal agreement. They may not fully understand the implications at the time and may go back on you if something would come up down the road.

I don't think using the office for mining some coins is that bad. Even the NSA supercomputers were used to mine bitcoins in past.
I'm just using my designated PC and It's not my boss paying for the electricity bill, the government pays it.

1. government is your boos
2. you're spending taxpayers money that could feed some hungry child
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August 03, 2017, 12:52:38 PM
#32
Hello Guys,
I have an idea of bringing my own Mining Rig to my office/workplace to free my Electric Bill but I just want to know if anybody in this forum is doing the same way.
What problems did you encounter?

Talk to me please.. THanks
I have never done that.
Too risky if it is done in my office.
I would prefer to do the mining at home. with the current eth price. For me, the problem electric bills can I overcome.
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August 03, 2017, 02:05:20 AM
#31
Definitely ask for permission first. I doubt they'll allow it. You'll have better luck at smaller companies rather than big ones.

This is the only post in the whole thread that even attempted to give you good advice. Everything else is just trying to skirt around the core question, is your boss ok with it? Unless you own the company all by yourself, you will answer to someone else, as even CEO's answer to their company's Board and stockholders.

If your boss does agree, it would be a good idea to get it in writing, such as an email rather than just as a verbal agreement. They may not fully understand the implications at the time and may go back on you if something would come up down the road.

I don't think using the office for mining some coins is that bad. Even the NSA supercomputers were used to mine bitcoins in past.
I'm just using my designated PC and It's not my boss paying for the electricity bill, the government pays it.

That's even worse... now you're not just stealing from your boss or a private company, you are stealing from taxpayers...

...We were probably using that hash power to spy on our own citizens, makes a lot more sense than stealing from your employer

And let's be honest if you had all that hash power at your disposal. You'd have to try for a bit if you felt you could cover your tracks

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/harvard-student-uses-14000-core-supercomputer-mine-dogecoin/

The funny thing is that the supercomputer was not suitable for scrypt mining, although it was still pretty powerful, despite its poor efficiency. (And, of course, the obvious funny thing being the student thinking they could get away with it.)
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August 03, 2017, 01:46:29 AM
#30
Definitely ask for permission first. I doubt they'll allow it. You'll have better luck at smaller companies rather than big ones.

This is the only post in the whole thread that even attempted to give you good advice. Everything else is just trying to skirt around the core question, is your boss ok with it? Unless you own the company all by yourself, you will answer to someone else, as even CEO's answer to their company's Board and stockholders.

If your boss does agree, it would be a good idea to get it in writing, such as an email rather than just as a verbal agreement. They may not fully understand the implications at the time and may go back on you if something would come up down the road.

I don't think using the office for mining some coins is that bad. Even the NSA supercomputers were used to mine bitcoins in past.
I'm just using my designated PC and It's not my boss paying for the electricity bill, the government pays it.

That's even worse... now you're not just stealing from your boss or a private company, you are stealing from taxpayers...

...We were probably using that hash power to spy on our own citizens, makes a lot more sense than stealing from your employer

And let's be honest if you had all that hash power at your disposal. You'd have to try for a bit if you felt you could cover your tracks
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August 03, 2017, 01:34:25 AM
#29
Installing a quiet graphics card into your computer and mining on it is probably okay (assuming it's your personal desktop, and not owned by your employer). Worst case, you might be asked to stop leaving your system on all the time.

Trying to conceal a dedicated mining rig in the office, however, probably isn't the greatest idea.


Think about what you'd pay keeping it at home: (Ignoring costs to comfort, additional/reduced AC/heating costs, and other things that are difficult to estimate.)

Consider the most powerful rig you could reasonably expect to hide or have ignored by most coworkers. It's debatable (would the company notice an unauthorized system on the network, or someone constantly on the guest wifi, would they notice a spike in power costs, etc.), but I'm thinking 8x 1080ti cards on 2 PSUs mounted on a solid frame. Maybe somewhere around 1'x1'x2'. Back to estimating power costs:

Assuming each card draws about 250W when pegged, that brings us to 2000W. If we estimate a total of 100W for all other components, that brings the total power estimate up to 2100W.

Over the course of 30 days, that brings us to 1,512 kWh. Suppose that, on average, you pay $0.20 per kWh. For many miners, this would be considered rather expensive, so I'm being generous with the amount of electricity you'd expect to save. (It's in tiers, but it doesn't really make sense to say whether the mining rig was responsible for the "first" or "last" part of the total electricity use.)

This brings us to about $300 per month. Is saving $300 per month worth the possibility of receiving a reprimand? I don't think so, but I suppose it would depend on how secure you feel about your job. (I mean, if you're a tenured professor conducting "research"... Tongue)
http://thumbs.imagekind.com/3053928_650/Tenured-Professor---Pearls-Before-Swine.jpg?v=1390394280

Anyhow, back on topic. Attempting to conceal a mining rig at your workplace is probably not worth it. Ask the appropriate people for permission. (In that case, be prepared to accept a blunt "no" or "not for free".)

Keep in mind that commercial facilities generally aren't billed by the simple kWh that you're used to seeing at home. In my experience, commercial power bills tend to look quite a bit more complicated, although I've never been the employee responsible for processing them. Off the top of my head, I can't say whether or not a mining rig would have a greater impact on costs for a commercial power bill or a residential power bill. Those are details you'd have to work out at your workplace.

A sample explanation of a large commercial power bill:
https://www.csu.org/CSUDocuments/understandinglargebills.pdf


It is indeed a good explanation and informative clause. Thanks
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August 03, 2017, 12:53:48 AM
#28
Definitely ask for permission first. I doubt they'll allow it. You'll have better luck at smaller companies rather than big ones.

This is the only post in the whole thread that even attempted to give you good advice. Everything else is just trying to skirt around the core question, is your boss ok with it? Unless you own the company all by yourself, you will answer to someone else, as even CEO's answer to their company's Board and stockholders.

If your boss does agree, it would be a good idea to get it in writing, such as an email rather than just as a verbal agreement. They may not fully understand the implications at the time and may go back on you if something would come up down the road.

I don't think using the office for mining some coins is that bad. Even the NSA supercomputers were used to mine bitcoins in past.
I'm just using my designated PC and It's not my boss paying for the electricity bill, the government pays it.

That's even worse... now you're not just stealing from your boss or a private company, you are stealing from taxpayers...
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Gone phishing...
August 02, 2017, 11:33:05 PM
#27
Installing a quiet graphics card into your computer and mining on it is probably okay (assuming it's your personal desktop, and not owned by your employer). Worst case, you might be asked to stop leaving your system on all the time.

Trying to conceal a dedicated mining rig in the office, however, probably isn't the greatest idea.


Think about what you'd pay keeping it at home: (Ignoring costs to comfort, additional/reduced AC/heating costs, and other things that are difficult to estimate.)

Consider the most powerful rig you could reasonably expect to hide or have ignored by most coworkers. It's debatable (would the company notice an unauthorized system on the network, or someone constantly on the guest wifi, would they notice a spike in power costs, etc.), but I'm thinking 8x 1080ti cards on 2 PSUs mounted on a solid frame. Maybe somewhere around 1'x1'x2'. Back to estimating power costs:

Assuming each card draws about 250W when pegged, that brings us to 2000W. If we estimate a total of 100W for all other components, that brings the total power estimate up to 2100W.

Over the course of 30 days, that brings us to 1,512 kWh. Suppose that, on average, you pay $0.20 per kWh. For many miners, this would be considered rather expensive, so I'm being generous with the electricity costs you'd expect to save. (It's in tiers, but it doesn't really make sense to say whether the mining rig was responsible for the "first" or "last" part of the total electricity use.)

This brings us to about $300 per month. Is saving $300 per month worth the possibility of receiving a reprimand? I don't think so, but I suppose it would depend on how secure you feel about your job. (I mean, if you're a tenured professor conducting "research"... Tongue)


Anyhow, back on topic. Attempting to conceal a mining rig at your workplace is probably not worth it. Ask the appropriate people for permission. (In that case, be prepared to accept a blunt "no" or "not for free".)

Keep in mind that commercial facilities generally aren't billed by the simple kWh that you're used to seeing at home. In my experience, commercial power bills tend to look quite a bit more complicated, although I've never been the employee responsible for processing them. Off the top of my head, I can't say whether or not a mining rig would have a greater impact on costs for a commercial power bill or a residential power bill. Those are details you'd have to work out at your workplace.

A sample explanation of a large commercial power bill:
https://www.csu.org/CSUDocuments/understandinglargebills.pdf


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August 02, 2017, 10:54:01 PM
#26
Definitely ask for permission first. I doubt they'll allow it. You'll have better luck at smaller companies rather than big ones.

This is the only post in the whole thread that even attempted to give you good advice. Everything else is just trying to skirt around the core question, is your boss ok with it? Unless you own the company all by yourself, you will answer to someone else, as even CEO's answer to their company's Board and stockholders.

If your boss does agree, it would be a good idea to get it in writing, such as an email rather than just as a verbal agreement. They may not fully understand the implications at the time and may go back on you if something would come up down the road.

I don't think using the office for mining some coins is that bad. Even the NSA supercomputers were used to mine bitcoins in past.
I'm just using my designated PC and It's not my boss paying for the electricity bill, the government pays it.
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August 02, 2017, 05:20:30 PM
#25
Definitely ask for permission first. I doubt they'll allow it. You'll have better luck at smaller companies rather than big ones.

This is the only post in the whole thread that even attempted to give you good advice. Everything else is just trying to skirt around the core question, is your boss ok with it? Unless you own the company all by yourself, you will answer to someone else, as even CEO's answer to their company's Board and stockholders.

If your boss does agree, it would be a good idea to get it in writing, such as an email rather than just as a verbal agreement. They may not fully understand the implications at the time and may go back on you if something would come up down the road.
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August 02, 2017, 02:21:27 PM
#24
The major issue with this is you're exposing your employer's network to unnecessary risks. As a laymen if I found some one mining they would be fired, immediately. If i just caught you with a GPU sucking a bit more juice than normal I'd probably just look at you funny. And think you were playing video games if I wasn't into mining. Which IMO wouldn't be a big deal unless I wanted to get rid of you.

For any of you having problem with heat in your homes...Fans are your friend.

They are rated by the amount of air by cubic feet so it's easy to find a fan that fits your needs exactly.

Cheap and very very effective solution to getting rid of hot air.

edit - and you probably have vents in your attic if you're feeling industrious. You can just link the exhaust right out of the house in the summer

How would you catch someone if GPU in his PC drains more electricity than normal ? Do you have a meter plugged at every PC and then manually checking power consumption ?

If I did, how that would happen I'm not sure

maybe they just had an open desk and I saw they had exra ports on the back of their tower? Beyond that just IT telling me while doing maintenance or seomthing

The "sucking juice" part was the obvious problem with them installing a GPU...not how you would get caught...
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August 02, 2017, 02:15:02 PM
#23
The major issue with this is you're exposing your employer's network to unnecessary risks. As a laymen if I found some one mining they would be fired, immediately. If i just caught you with a GPU sucking a bit more juice than normal I'd probably just look at you funny. And think you were playing video games if I wasn't into mining. Which IMO wouldn't be a big deal unless I wanted to get rid of you.

For any of you having problem with heat in your homes...Fans are your friend.

They are rated by the amount of air by cubic feet so it's easy to find a fan that fits your needs exactly.

Cheap and very very effective solution to getting rid of hot air.

edit - and you probably have vents in your attic if you're feeling industrious. You can just link the exhaust right out of the house in the summer

How would you catch someone if GPU in his PC drains more electricity than normal ? Do you have a meter plugged at every PC and then manually checking power consumption ?
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August 02, 2017, 12:34:35 PM
#22
This is a fun one, we just caught someone at my shop attempting to do this. He's been placed on 2 weeks no pay suspension. Though we had a guy 3 months ago using a box he had access to as a p0rn repository LOL.. that guy is no longer employed at our company.
A lot I would say is your companies culture, some places might not care (smaller shops), but if in a larger place with dedicated IT (i.e. a network monitoring team, CISO etc..) then I would suggest caution, unless your possibly up for getting a new job too. 



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August 02, 2017, 07:04:13 AM
#21
Electricity was the biggest problem for me. Graphics card prices are also a major problem. Finding and buying video cards is a big problem. Also take care of the cooling problem.
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August 02, 2017, 06:06:00 AM
#20
risk reward management. if  you get caught and have problems. then it might as well not be worth it Tongue

So, the problem would be if an IT Dept is very critical on hardware inventory otherwise looks like a good idea after all.
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August 02, 2017, 02:00:26 AM
#19
risk reward management. if  you get caught and have problems. then it might as well not be worth it Tongue
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August 01, 2017, 07:58:16 PM
#18
Definitely ask for permission first. I doubt they'll allow it. You'll have better luck at smaller companies rather than big ones.
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August 01, 2017, 07:55:56 PM
#17
Hello Guys,
I have an idea of bringing my own Mining Rig to my office/workplace to free my Electric Bill but I just want to know if anybody in this forum is doing the same way.
What problems did you encounter?

Talk to me please.. THanks

It's a great idea but internet connection in my office is filtered. It doesn't connect to any coin servers or whatever they have.
The wallet doesn't get synced and minergate like app also don't take the proxy connection.

My company was in IT field, it have many filters and firewall rules, proxy, etc.

What I did was, I use a PC at home create a VPN server. Because of my lab can access the internet so I set up my rig as a VPN cilent so it can access the minning pool. You may have some technical knowledge. Of course, you are playing the hide and seek game with the IT department so be prepare for consequence.

P/s sorry for my bad English, not my native.


Bad Idea for you I think its good for me and maybe I can allow myself bringing and doing IT or hardware stuff since I though people around me have no idea about crypto currency and mining etc. If I'm going to bring a Rig then they would have no idea what I'm up to.. LOL

Hi,
please suggest me a way through.
My office connection is filtered centrally using juniper web filtering and also fortiguard. The internet works only when I put a specific proxy and gateway.
It rejects many sites based on their scripts or for being listed.

I'm the boss of my room and no one cares what I do inside my cabin (I'm not monitored by any IT personnel).
I have decent working desktop with internal graphics card and good internet connection. I can add up external graphics cards if I succeed.
I'm already mining monero in my home. But it would be much more efficient doing that in office. (Though less ethical)

VPN software doesn't work. They block the internet when connected.
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August 01, 2017, 06:29:26 PM
#16
The major issue with this is you're exposing your employer's network to unnecessary risks. As a laymen if I found some one mining they would be fired, immediately. If i just caught you with a GPU sucking a bit more juice than normal I'd probably just look at you funny. And think you were playing video games if I wasn't into mining. Which IMO wouldn't be a big deal unless I wanted to get rid of you.

For any of you having problem with heat in your homes...Fans are your friend.

They are rated by the amount of air by cubic feet so it's easy to find a fan that fits your needs exactly.

Cheap and very very effective solution to getting rid of hot air.

edit - and you probably have vents in your attic if you're feeling industrious. You can just link the exhaust right out of the house in the summer
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August 01, 2017, 06:22:46 PM
#15
Bad idea.

1. How good is the physical security in your office e.g. gatepass for equipments coming in/out? You might be able to bring it inside the office but you may not be able to take it out.
2. That might be construed as "stealing" company resources. You bringing in a personal equipment and use company utilities for personal gain - electricity, space or computer space. You'll possibly face HR sanctions if your personal equipment is found out.
3. You'll introdude risk to your companies network infrastructure, opening network ports for mining, etc. What if a malware infects your company's computer/network system thru your miner?

If you are in control of your test PC lab and test internet network that is totally separate from production network and with no need to bring in a personal equipment, better, as that would minimize the risk to your company network and risk of an equipment being personally associated to you as well. Just run a test, not a miner running 24x7.

I really thought it was a Bad Idea but I'm an IT support in a corporate office and they issued me a new Desktop Tower that can be inserted high end GPU. What if I'm gonna bring just a single GPU card regardless on any noise of fans' running all day long or even 24/7.

I have bunch of MSI GPUS 1060s, 1070s 1080ti Gaming Xs, they are all incredibly silent with forced fan @ 65%. Never touch Asus, cant hear vacuum cleaner over the noise they are making lol.
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