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newbie
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If you want to get technical... if you had any intention of setting up a completely reputable and useful site, and then failed to do that by listing known ripoff companies (even after multiple attempts to convince you otherwise), then you have committed one of the simplest form of scammocricy; the bait and switch or false advertising. I don't think law enforcement takes that very kindly, and if these companies so happen to fall apart due to a few mysterious arrests, guess who else is going to be investigated?
OMG! Gooogle???
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
There are no buying options now at MiningHeart.com.
You cannot send us funds. Even if you want to donate the project.
What kind of scam is it?  Huh Grin

If you want to get technical... if you had any intention of setting up a completely reputable and useful site, and then failed to do that by listing known ripoff companies (even after multiple attempts to convince you otherwise), then you have committed one of the simplest form of scammocricy; the bait and switch or false advertising. I don't think law enforcement takes that very kindly, and if these companies so happen to fall apart due to a few mysterious arrests, guess who else is going to be investigated?
newbie
Activity: 19
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There aren't any bonus points for trying this hard. A pretty site can still smell rotten and rip you off. I'll bet you would love an order from a dentist.

There are no buying options now at MiningHeart.com.
You cannot send us funds. Even if you want to donate the project.
What kind of scam is it?  Huh Grin
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
The idea to grow up resource as elance, or even ebay, which can protect buyer and seller of mining stuff. But it has to be user-friendly.
It should really help to involve more new people to Bitcoins.   
Can you imagine a dentist from Texas who puts miner order through forum "group buy"?
Only good-looking, suitable site can help.

There aren't any bonus points for trying this hard. A pretty site can still smell rotten and rip you off. I'll bet you would love an order from a dentist.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0


Even though I don't actually think that all of the hardware vendors are trying to scam anyone, I think that there are a few who are a worry. Its certainly a risk putting your money down on a pre-order without some sort of safety net such as Credit Card or PayPal.

However, I'm sorry, but I don't see how you're idea is a solution to the problem, it just makes it worse.

The idea to grow up resource as elance, or even ebay, which can protect buyer and seller of mining stuff. But it has to be user-friendly.
It should really help to involve more new people to Bitcoins.   
Can you imagine a dentist from Texas who puts miner order through forum "group buy"?
Only good-looking, suitable site can help.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
Almost all vendors in mining industry can be called scam.

Why companies don't use any buyer protection payment method?
It's too easy.
Use Escrow (or some like that) to get funded, then borrow form bank for production and refund after shipping.
Even credit cards were accepted only by P****nix.

Answer is simple, they shift all risks to buyers. But 2 months delay with shipping is the same as no shipping.
Is that not scam?

 



So what are you trying to say? That we should trust you because you are acting as a middle-man on behalf of "scammers"?

Even though I don't actually think that all of the hardware vendors are trying to scam anyone, I think that there are a few who are a worry. Its certainly a risk putting your money down on a pre-order without some sort of safety net such as Credit Card or PayPal.

However, I'm sorry, but I don't see how you're idea is a solution to the problem, it just makes it worse.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
Almost all vendors in mining industry can be called scam.

Why companies don't use any buyer protection payment method?
It's too easy.
Use Escrow (or some like that) to get funded, then borrow form bank for production and refund after shipping.
Even credit cards were accepted only by P****nix.

Answer is simple, they shift all risks to buyers. But 2 months delay with shipping is the same as no shipping.
Is that not scam?

 

legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
Your problem was that you were acting as a middle man for companies that don't operate using that business model.

Also you provide ZERO advantage to customers and HUGE risk as you are the customer of the suppying company, not your patsies.

Whats to stop you just walking away with the money? You are hardly trustworthy, your entire site was a lie, a fabrication a fantasy sham designed to cash in on naive eager bitcoin newbies.

How could anyone trust anything you say when you had links to Jupiter and Saturn KnC models that aren't even for sale, when you had companies that are proven scammers.

Then you come on here accusing us of starting a witch hunt? All we were doing was Due dilligence that any sane buyer should do, and all we had to do was send a couple of emails off to the companies that you LIED about representing and having contracts with on your web site and they came back with the same tune: STAY AWAY THIS IS A SCAM

This is the companies that make the hardware calling you Scammers not us, your so called "partners"

Pathetic
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
You know, this isn't a terrible idea.  But unfortunately Scammy Scammerson thought of it first, lol.
It is a good idea.  but the implementation was amazingly lacking.  no recovery now.
full member
Activity: 195
Merit: 100
might be better if you sell hardware that has some proven history. the new comers (haven't delivered) anything is scary for most people.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
So sorry this didn't work out for you!

Now tell us why you are still touting proven scams, Payonix and Xtreme?  Please leave the Bitcoin community.  You obviously have no integrity.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
The great witch-hunt. I like it.  Grin

We're trying to create website which can accumulate the most relevant industry offers in one place.
Is any similar service exist? No. There is only information page at thegenesisblock.com (thanks them).

Bitcoin expands a lot, but people cannot find any civilized services. Not geeks, just householders.
Do you think the newbies go through this forum with a toothcomb? Sure, no. Information should be given by simpler way.
And more suitable services can involve new participants in Bitcoin area. We'd like to make it.


Now to the questions.

We were knocking to every vendors with our offer.
Only one (Cointerra) gave us the straight answer "Later".
Some asked "Show what you offer, we will think". (By the way, ask Christian Anselmi from Bitmine.CH, the person I contacted)
Some just ignored our requests. I've got nice ticket number collection Smiley.

Based at such disappointing results we started Miningheart.com, because better to show than explain.
And now we're enjoying by the result. Wink)) Scam! It is so cute.

The idea was to get API or payment instruction from vendors and embed it to our site. Using that way client could pay directly to vendor.
We get small fee, client can use suitable service, vendor has new orders. Everybody happy.
But not this time Sad.

Back to reality.
We've removed any buying options from our site. And now it'll grow as Mining hardware content site.
You comments, corrections and offers are still welcome.

Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
Reply from bitmine:

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Antonio (Bitmine AG)

Dec 06 11:24 (CET)

Dear Sir,
they are not official resellers,
If you are interested on our products you can place your order on our webpage.

Thanks
for your interests in our products.

Danke für Ihr Interesse an unseren Produkten.

For any questions don't hesitate to contact us. In the meantime

Für Fragen sind wir jederzeit für Sie da.

Kind regards/MfG

Customer Service

hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
You know, this isn't a terrible idea.  But unfortunately Scammy Scammerson thought of it first, lol.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
Have heard back from AMT (Advanced Miners)

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That is an absolute scam. Please don't purchase from them. They have not signed anything with or anyone else most likely.

--
Genearl Sales
Advanced Mining Technology
Office: 1855-866-6463
1254 W. Chester Pike
Havertown, PA, 19083
http://AdvancedMiners.com
[email protected]

And from Hashfast

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Thank you so much for reaching out.
At this time we are not in contract with anyone as an official reseller of our products.
To make a purchase, please make it directly from us.
Which of our machines are you looking to purchase?
Kindly,
Erin
--
HashFast Sales
[email protected]

sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Lux e tenebris
Miningfart FAQ

Q. What is MiningHeart.com?

A. MiningHeart.com is a worldwide dealer of Bitcoin mining hardware and services.

Q. What does MiningHeart.com offer?

A. Our company gathers almost all relevant offers on the market for Bitcoin miners and helps you make the right choice easily and quickly.

Q. I know which miner exactly I want to buy. How can MiningHeart.com help me?

A. Owing to our agreements with all major miner vendors, MiningHeart.com can provide you with an extra discount for the exact miner you are looking for.

Q. Are there any other advantages to buying Bitcoin miners via MiningHeart.com?

A. Yes. MiningHeart.com accepts most payment methods. Even if the vendor of the miner in question does not accept some of them, you can place your order and then pay using the method most convenient for you via MiningHeart.com.

Q. How can MiningHeart.com guarantee that my miners will be delivered safe and sound?

A. MiningHeart.com is a company that specializes in helping clients select the right miner and save extra money on discounts. All your orders and payments are forwarded directly to the vendor. As soon as they receive it, your miner will be sent to you according to the Terms and Conditions of the vendor.
legendary
Activity: 1121
Merit: 1003
I've sent a request to lock the thread. What's more to say. The guy is not credible and has many scam companies listed. He's not affiliated with any companies. I say lock it up, boys
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 504
Run a Bitcoin node.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
I've contacted the following list of "suppliers" and will update this post when I hear back from them.
  • AMT. Advanced Mining Technology - CONFIRMED NOT TO BE A PARTNER
  • Bitmine.Ch - CONFIRMED NOT TO BE A PARTNER
  • Black Arrow
  • BUTTERFLY LABS
  • COINTERRA
  • HashFast Technologies - CONFIRMED NOT TO BE A PARTNER  
  • KnCMiner - CONFIRMED NOT TO BE A PARTNER
  • PAYONIX  - NOT A COMPANY - SCAM
  • VMC. Virtual Mining CORP.
  • Xtreme Miners - NOT A COMPANY - SCAM
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
Biffa,

Can you share KnCMiner contacts via PM?

We were trying to contact them many times, but no success. Now answers at e-mails, private message here. Total ignoring =(.

You can ask about our requests. I used my name George Wader.

Thanks.
...why do list KnC on your website, if you haven't talked to them yet?  Does that mean your other "signed agreements with some of the most relevant mining hardware vendors" are also misleading?

Requiring us to provide proof that a company you're advertising is a scam doesn't sound like you are "superb in defending our buyers' interests".

Sorry dude; you screwed up.  I don't think you're going to get any traction here, without a lot of damage control.

Unfortunately they don't need to, they will get loads of suckers in the public to part with their cash, and they will only come on here afterwards and find out they got scammed.
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