Topic: Miracle Tele Is a Scam Stay Away - page 8. (Read 4463 times)

I'm surprised that no one noticed this before.  It is very strange and suspicious but now is too late.

That is how ponzi scheme works - they are paying for a short time to convince investors that they are legal and after that they exit scam.
I knew there was something suspicious about this project because they claim to be from the Czech Republic, but website was translated into Czech language by some translating software.

I can confirm that there was a section with info about the team members. There were even LinkedIn profiles linked on that section, but it can't be found anymore. I guess they think by doing this no one will know their identities but people already know who they are.

People say, that on the https://miracletele.com/ "team" section has disappeared 
This is such a close call for MiracleTele to get labeled as scammers.

That's a great point, and I'm glad to see some really intellectual people amongst the Miracle Tele community .

Having said that, I also had a few chats with Sonny, and he is a smart guy who was maybe way too emotionally invested in the admin job;
bantering back and forth with everyone and really exerting himself to come up with sarcastic quips, etc...

Such extra effort put into a telegram admin job might have really burnt him out, when he is doing that with 80k guys day in day out...

Nice summary. Regarding the end date of ico, before being advanced to May it was scheduled for October ... 


I confirm.


Maybe i'm wrong but what tells us that these admins (including Sonny) are not in collusion with the CEO and that they would not have pretended to be very annoyed and to disagree with the measures recently taken ?

I have always found sonny very (too) confident and incisive in the way he had to respond to his interlocutors.

You don't create flags or leave negative feedback on scam projects for them to change their minds. You do so, to prevent others from falling victim to their scam and that's the best the forum can offer since it doesn't moderate scam.  Creating the flag will make the scam accusation more visible and alert potential investors to rethink before investing. I wasn't affected some it seems appropriate for the affected parties to create one and request for our support to make it active.

hope that they have good explanation to what is happening to the ETH address of the ICO sale:

https://etherscan.io/address/0x5a9e54056ea941b6a85e44d0c11b5c51028810d7

too many IN transactions, now that address is holding 13M tele tokens!

I didn't see this announcement, this was a big red flag. I almost sold off my token, until something pulled me back. I have suspected the project and its team. The CEO is a dishonest person. This may have just ended the Pyramid scheme. Although some persons want to take legal action against them. One of the best moderator by name Sonny left the telegram group.

Hello. Long time tele token holder here. I have Tele tokens which were bought from variuos places, including ICO website and DEX. Here's a couple of problems with the project right now:

1. If you ask anyone in crypto if 1btc=1btc, everyone will answer "yes". Doesn't matter when, where, at which price you bought your btc. 1btc=1btc. Well, Ceo of MiracleTele Andrew thinks differently. He made an annoucement on 12 aug that 1 Tele which was bought from team's ico wallet doesn't equal to 1 Tele which was bought from exchanges or received as bounry/airdrop. Meaning you can stack only those tokens, which you bought directly from ico wallet. But before that annoucement everything was fine, 1 tele was = 1 tele,  everyone were stacking their coins no matter where they received/bought them. And before that annoucement Ceo was asked numerous times "Can we stack tokens from exchanges?" and the answer was always "yes". Andrew made that choice as anti-dump measure, to prevent holders selling tokens and just continue to stack. His decision backfired badly. The same day price on Dex falled by 80-90%. And that's understandable. Stacking was the only underlying feature of the project which kept price at a reasonable level. If you can't stack tokens from exchanges - the only point for buying them is speculation. But you can find 1000 more alternatives for speculation. The funny thing is - before Andrew's annoucement price on exchanges was always at a resonable level. There were moments when bounty hunters dumped their tokens but price always recovered after that. Now it just stays the same. 4 times lower than ico price.

2. Endless ICO. The ico was meant to be ended in may. And the team was sending mails where they stated that the token will be listed on exchanges shortly after ico by the end of may. Well, ICO is still running and the team still haven't listed Tele token. It's trading only on Dex or on another exchange where it was listed only by exchange's initiative.

3. Andrew's last annoucement caused a lot of panick. There are near 70k people on telegram group. The last days all payouts for stacking were delayed, I personally waited 3 days for my payout, but before that it was always instant. So delays in payouts and latest annoucement really sparked a lot of questions from holders. The Ceo was it the chat and acted like a clown. He replied with some BS or smiley emojis for serious questions. In the end all admins left from telegram group.

My proposal for the MT team: please stop differentiating 1 tele token from another tele token. Just enable stacking for all tokens, no matter where they were bought. The moment you will make that decision - the same moment price will stabilise. Just as it was before your latest annoucement. And please stop ICO and list this token officially! Do not change rules and ToS a couple of times every month!!!

P.S. A couple of months ago there were a moment when there was an announcement on official miracle tele website, that this token will be listed on binance. That annoucement was there only for 10 or 20 minutes max. But people still have saved screenshots of that...

As of this morning withdrawals are coming in fine, albeit with several hours delay compared to earlier transactions.

I know Andrey said something like "During this week we are stopping any out / in..." yesterday, which is likely referring to
TELE token transactions.

He or someone else from management should show up here asap to clear the air.

Don' call me a liar because I'm just saying what the team published in this article. I will quote just one part where it's written that tokens bought anywhere else except on their web site can't be stacked:


Maybe you purchased tokens on the ForkDelta before they started checking. I know that people who bought tokens few months ago were able to stack them and receive profit. But if you buy tokens now and try stacking them, they will bock you.

And one more thing. They stopped all deposits and withdrawals on the website (MiracleTele CEO said that in the main Telegram group: link). People on Telegram says that they can't withdraw their money or tokens (example: https://t.me/miracletelecom/730429).

Market price dropping 80% within a day, a community of 70,000 active enthusiasts shaken and in total panic mode,
admins leaving in protest citing sudden, haphazard decisions by the management without consulting with them,
payments pending for days.....

and then again it's the vacation month in Europe, part of the working culture is so carefree and ridiculously self-absorbed there that even legitimate business owners might not bother to deal with such dire issues until their leisure time is completed to their satisfaction ,

there is a chance that this is a case of "lost in translation" a bit, and an otherwise very committed CEO having a few too many off days recently...

I don't think that any flag can change anything. They take the money and probably is now on exit scam.
it must have been very suspicious with 40% monthly interest.

Hm.  Don't know what to think, although I'm beyond skeptical about these projects--I'm more pointed toward being cynical and headed toward pessimism.  Whether you know the CEO or not, I agree that better PR is necessary so that investors don't think they're getting scammed like this.  We all know that scams abound in the ICO space, and it's natural for people to be frightened like this.  I don't blame OP at all for starting this thread.

And this is what I'm talking about.  Nobody should be this scared that a project is going to pull an exit scam based on fishy behavior.  The project ought to reassure its investors at the very least that they're not headed towards a scam.  The language barrier here is pretty high and I must confess that I'm not familiar with the project--but either way the scam accusation seems to have some merit.  Will follow.

update: 4 admins have left the main group

you boldly can be called a liar, you can give evidence on those akki, which bought on fork Delta and have blocked? I have tokens with fork Delta and they bring profit.

Im following this issue, because im staking my tele token there, in last 4 weeks tele team always changing rules and its always done without profer announcement, they act so fishy, i was think they will exit scam in month or two, thats why i unstack most of my token and sell it to fork delta, and today, 3 days after im selling mine, this thing happen, no more reward for staking token from bounty and airdrop, and even 2 admins on TELE group decide to quit today. I think tele token is so close to exit scam now, but i still pray Tele will not exit scam, the devidend payment was so good

Honestly, I stopped following what's going on with the project after I saw reports of the people whose accounts were blocked. As I understand, they started blocking people's accounts who bought tokens on ForkDelta and stacked those tokens and few days AFTER they started blocking them they published some kind of investing tutorial that has the section about stacking tokens. In that section it says that you can't stack tokens bought on ForkDelta. They did that AFTER people got their accounts blocked and tokens lost.

What is not understandable is why all these new rules are set NOW.

A few weeks/months ago i received tokens from signature campaign, bought some more from fork delta, stacked everything, received earnings and managed to withdraw without any issue. Why could people not go on doing the same ?? (i even bought during ico i must say).

The way arrival on exchanges is managed is really questionnable too ...