Topic: Misuse of hand sanitizers dangerous to health - page 3. (Read 549 times)

Yes, this is right. Aside ethanol, fomepizole can also be used. Both fomepizole and ethanol act the same way by reducing the action of alcohol dehydrogenase on methanol through competitive inhibition in which fomepizole or ethanol compete with methanol in a way less methanol is converted and many methanol are not able to convert to formate but extreted by the kidney.

If fomepizole is not avalable, then ethanol is the best option which is more available.

You shouldn't be using hand sanitizers which contain methanol, even if you aren't moronic enough to be drinking them. If you have any, you should dispose of them and replace them with ones containing ethanol.

Interestingly, one of the antidotes for methanol poisoning is ethanol, i.e. standard drinking alcohol. Methanol itself is only really as toxic as ethanol is, but methanol is metabolized in the liver to formic acid, which is highly toxic. If you drink ethanol, the enzymes in the liver responsible for converting methanol to formic acid preferentially convert ethanol to acetic acid, giving the kidneys time to excrete the methanol before it is broken down in to the highly toxic formic acid.

I didn't realize people could be so stupid until this pandemic hit and people are drinking fish tank cleaner or shoving light bulbs up their asses trying to kill coronavirus. COVID-19 is a giant Darwinism experiment.

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Like you commented, imo too, using soap to wash hands will be better at home, while sanitizers would be better for outdoor purposes.

This is the question that governments need to answer after making appropriate investigations. Normally, only the poisoning alcohol called methanol could result to vision loss or impairment, and that can also lead to fast dead when not even consumed in excess. The people or companies manufacturing this type of sernitizers needs to be jailed. But I guess, it will be locally made sanitizers which are not recommended. Industrially made ones are better, the ones that will be properly monitored by certain government bodies related to public health. The ingredients used to make the sanitizers will be listed on the sanitizers package, we should also check this out to make sure that only ethanol or isopropyl alcohols is used with the three other ingredients, and to make sure no other ingredent(s) added. WHO recommendation should be strictly and completely followed.

I have read the feed on my phone about the news where people died ingesting sanitizers. As to why they did it is probably a suicide attempt. Even if its ingredients are the not harmful ones, drinking sanitizers still something that normal people don't do. If the patients died because the ingredients are harmful, who manufactured and where do these sanitizers came from?

It's just the corona virus event's, some +face mask sold are reused,
+ Sanitizers - causing harm
+ Vaccine. -well some impaired/bad effect may be observed/seen-

We have been washing our hands with soap before corona virus, now we are in a virus period sanitizers becomes a must have even in homes - sanitizers should be when you don't have access to a soap and a water on the go because it's handy- some ignorantly rub the sanitizers on their faces.
The fear/dread already created about the covid-19 causing more harm than the novel corona virus itself.
Even in a medical treatment process there is emphasises to relax patient anxiety, more action in relaxing citizens this period should be done. Promote
+ Previous/normal healthy live style people do -even before corona-
Eating,exercising, avoid non sterile areas like subways railings, bus supports,dust bins and more.
 A relaxed mind, health life/immune will go far in covid-19 battle

There was a news I read on CNN: People are dying after drinking hand sanitizer, CDC says
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/05/health/hand-sanitizer-cdc-warning-study-wellness/index.html

(CNN)- People are getting sick and even dying after swallowing hand sanitizer, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday. Four died and others have suffered impaired vision or seizures, the CDC says.

I was very shocked when I read this and research for possible reasons hand sanitizers can be ingested leading to death. The reason for the ingestion of hand sanitizers not yet known, but possibly some people could think the composition of hand sanitizers could not be harmful. According to World Health Organization, the recommended hand sanitizer composition are:

Hand Sanitizer Composition recommended by WHO
Isopropyl alcohol or ethanol
Hydrogen peroxide
Glycerol
Sterile distilled or boiled cold water

Normally, mild or recommended does of all the components used for hand sanitizers are unharmful, this could (maybe) be the reason why thses are the combinations recommended by WHO,. Some people could broswed about it and concluded it not harmful, they could just feel sick which may not even be covid 19 disease but ingested hand sanitizer and died. But, I still think of this, why people are having impaired vision and/or dying? This led me to these findings.

Alcohols
Isopropyl alcohol and ethanol mild consumption are not dangerous, isopropyl alcohol excessive consumption is not safe, which is used to attempt suicide but the best which is recommended is the ethanol which is used in making alcoholic drinks. The rest of the alcohols (methanol, rubbing and denatured alcohols) are poisonous to our health.

Methanol poisoning
Methyl alcohol (methanol) is the most dangerous of its kind, when consumed, the body broken it down into formaldehyde first by alcohol dehydrogenase which is later converted to formate by aldehyde dehydrogenase, this takes place in the liver.

Direct symptoms of methanol ingestion
1. It directly depresses the central nervous system

Symptom by forming format (formic acid)
1. It cause impaired vision or completely loss of vision
2. Acidosis
3. putaminal hemorrhages
4. Unconsciousnes
5. Progress to death by respiratory failure.

With the symptoms listed above, I think people are now using metanol in making hand sanitizers which is dangerous to health. Even, it can be absorped through the skin, inhale through it fumes and dangerous but its ingestion makes it more dangous and can lead to impaired vision and/or death.

Advice
1. Be careful and purchase good and recommended hand sanitizer
2. Ingestion of hand sanitizers is not appropriate, if anyone develop any illness, the person should not even think it is corona virus and should report this in hospital as soon as possible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol_toxicity
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/05/health/hand-sanitizer-cdc-warning-study-wellness/index.html
https://www.healthline.com/health/how-to-make-hand-sanitizer#how-to-make


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