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Quote from: 5ensei on February 09, 2019, 03:04:56 PM

One good thing about quoting is that the original poster is unable to change the post and therefore it is locked in forever. This is useful for bounty pages where they change the rules and then deny it.

For bounty pages like payment rates, and for bitcoin stake to identify ownership of forum account.
Anyway, we never have to make pyramid quote in those cases above.

Pyramid quotes only occurs with lazy spamming writers, who simply try to have more postcount and don't care what they quote, what they write.

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One good thing about quoting is that the original poster is unable to change the post and therefore it is locked in forever. This is useful for bounty pages where they change the rules and then deny it.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 02, 2019, 04:44:00 PM

Best option will be a neutral tag instead of red tag because in the first place, the trust system was introduced for trust feedbacks not as punishment for breaking forum rules. You can report a post if you feel the excessively quoting have turned the post into a spam and moderators will look into the report.

It's doesn't necessarily have to be a red rag there can be other punishment melted to misuse of quote and it should be placed with the likes of spamming

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Neutral tags do not make sense, I think.
One more thing, if there are some kinds of punishments on pyramid quotes, some questions should be taken into consideration too. Because we can not punish others arbitrarily.
- How many repeatedly quotes will be considered as pyramid quotes.
- How many repetitions on pyramid quotes before get punishements.

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 02, 2019, 04:44:00 PM

Best option will be a neutral tag instead of red tag because in the first place, the trust system was introduced for trust feedbacks not as punishment for breaking forum rules. You can report a post if you feel the excessively quoting have turned the post into a spam and moderators will look into the report.

I don't know that it is possible in technical aspect or not.
You have innovative ideas, and I hope that theymos or forum mods might see your suggestion.

Quote from: r1s2g3 on February 02, 2019, 04:27:30 PM

I am not saying ban the user, I was saying ban the multi quotes/pyramid quotes. In other words remove/disable this existing functionality of pyramid quoting. No need by theymos to start another report.

Always should spend a couple of seconds to do this.

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Due to forum pyramid quoting option, I need to manually delete the earlier quotes.(but I will leave them today.)

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It was sad to know that the violator given above by OP was a senior member, that was so disappointing Undecided

. But that is not the worse, another part which annoys me is the fact that he only did a one liner post (probably he was thinking that his post will look longer by doing such thing). I'm pretty sure that all of us have the sentiment regarding this.

Anyway, there's nothing new. I know that it all sucks but actually I'm now learning to get used to it as time goes by. It's just like that I already accept that committing such lapses are inevitable.

Quote from: jademaxsuy on February 03, 2019, 02:55:07 AM

I agree with clicking the link from Quote from: (Forum User) will redirect to the post that is not snip like this post I quoted. I've been doing that when I'm searching the forum to redirect me to the post I wanted to find or to read.

Hmm, I think it becomes a laborious task because you need to click the link, wait for loading then go back again to your post. Nevertheless, it is still a good suggestion when it comes to the issue of making cleaner appearance of posts

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Quote from: Sharon121212 on January 30, 2019, 02:55:48 PM

In this post you would notice some members quoting the whole post and some of the reply are not just important and really unnecessary

This is so problematic for discussion. I always choose my quote that i want to post reply to. Almost never quoting whole post unless really necessary.
I wish more would do that, discussion would be easier to read.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on February 02, 2019, 12:28:02 AM

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I agree with clicking the link from Quote from: (Forum User) will redirect to the post that is not snip like this post I quoted. I've been doing that when I'm searching the forum to redirect me to the post I wanted to find or to read.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 03, 2019, 12:06:41 AM

When you say OP you mean

I meant the person who posted it, not just the thread starter. So if I were to quote your post above:

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss

When you say OP you mean

If that's what you mean, I disagree with you because If this was already implemented it means I won't have been able to qoute reply you right?
Qouting shows you're giving a direct response to another reply on thread. replies without quote most times on a thread shows you're responding to the original thread/post. And other times, those type of reply can be confusing as one may not know what you're responding to.
Qouting shouldn't be restricted to OP in fact, qouting the OP isn't necessary unless you're responding to a particular sentence in that OP and qouting the whole OP isn't appropriate.

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Quote from: UserU on February 02, 2019, 11:37:26 PM

Or maybe the function should be re-coded that only the OP instead of the previous ones would be quoted.

When you say OP you mean

Quote from: yogi on November 19, 2012, 05:58:51 PM

'OP' Original Post / Original Poster. This could refer to either the user that started the thread or the first post in the thread.

If that's what you mean, I disagree with you because If this was already implemented it means I won't have been able to qoute reply you right?
Qouting shows you're giving a direct response to another reply on thread. replies without quote most times on a thread shows you're responding to the original thread/post. And other times, those type of reply can be confusing as one may not know what you're responding to.
Qouting shouldn't be restricted to OP in fact, qouting the OP isn't necessary unless you're responding to a particular sentence in that OP and qouting the whole OP isn't appropriate.

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Or maybe the function should be re-coded that only the OP instead of the previous ones would be quoted.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 02, 2019, 04:44:00 PM

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on February 02, 2019, 12:20:46 PM

However, another punishment, like red tags might be good.

Best option will be a neutral tag instead of red tag because in the first place, the trust system was introduced for trust feedbacks not as punishment for breaking forum rules. You can report a post if you feel the excessively quoting have turned the post into a spam and moderators will look into the report.

Indeed, leave the old times of using the Red Trust, but as for breaking the rules numerous times Reds might be considered OR just a perma ban I think Huh

Quote from: r1s2g3 on February 01, 2019, 08:41:26 PM

I think forum should ban Multi quotes or pyramid quotes.

it can't be banned for it being used for social media bounty reports not unless we're also trying to ban them from running here.
Or maybe a new type of message report will be given to the participants. Just like, instead of quoting they'll have A,B,C / 1,2,3 / Buttons or even using Horizontal Rule

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on February 02, 2019, 12:20:46 PM

However, another punishment, like red tags might be good.

Best option will be a neutral tag instead of red tag because in the first place, the trust system was introduced for trust feedbacks not as punishment for breaking forum rules. You can report a post if you feel the excessively quoting have turned the post into a spam and moderators will look into the report.

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on February 02, 2019, 12:20:46 PM

Quote from: r1s2g3 on February 01, 2019, 08:41:26 PM

I think forum should ban Multi quotes or pyramid quotes. They are just increasing the length of post without any value addition.
For long quotes, quoting can be limited to say 100 words.

Ban, it is unrealistic suggestion.
However, another punishment, like red tags might be good.
Jet Cash proposed about it in another topic.
By now, I known that the forum has only report for spamming posts, repeatedly posts with same contents around.
I wish that in the future, theymos will expand reports on pyramid quotes.

I am not saying ban the user, I was saying ban the multi quotes/pyramid quotes. In other words remove/disable this existing functionality of pyramid quoting. No need by theymos to start another report.
Due to forum pyramid quoting option, I need to manually delete the earlier quotes.(but I will leave them today.)

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on February 02, 2019, 12:20:46 PM

However, another punishment, like red tags might be good.
Jet Cash proposed about it in another topic.

Red tag for posting pyramid quotes? I hope you're not serious. It would be misuse of trust system. Ok, such quotes are really annoying, but that's all. Users don't deserved to be red tagged just because they don't know posting etiquette...

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on February 01, 2019, 08:41:26 PM

I think forum should ban Multi quotes or pyramid quotes. They are just increasing the length of post without any value addition.
For long quotes, quoting can be limited to say 100 words.

Ban, it is unrealistic suggestion.
However, another punishment, like red tags might be good.
Jet Cash proposed about it in another topic.
By now, I known that the forum has only report for spamming posts, repeatedly posts with same contents around.
I wish that in the future, theymos will expand reports on pyramid quotes.

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Quote from: Coyster on February 02, 2019, 12:10:52 AM

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You can just snip it like that, users who are already reading,already know the earlier post and they do not need to see it again. If somebody jumped in middle of thread, then that user can reach to that desired post by the link .

I visited another forum based in SMF, they do not allow multiquotes.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on February 01, 2019, 08:41:26 PM

I think forum should ban Multi quotes or pyramid quotes. They are just increasing the length of post without any value addition.
For long quotes, quoting can be limited to say 100 words.

There is no way it can be banned as it has it can also serve a good purpose,especially on a post with multiple pages,its cool in such threads to probably quote an entire text,if you'll be reacting to all of it
Where the issue is, happens to be full quotes on the first or second page,and most annoyingly on the 1st reply,it just makes things look childish and it'll be appreciated of individuals who do such would really grow up and do the right thing

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Quote from: bitmover on January 30, 2019, 03:08:49 PM

In the case you mentioned they are only spammers I believe, not bumpers

Exactly, because these spammers would never mind reading the whole post, they just automatically quote and make a reply.
If they would only ready, they would have not quote the whole post but only those who are just relevant to their replies.

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I think forum should ban Multi quotes or pyramid quotes. They are just increasing the length of post without any value addition.
For long quotes, quoting can be limited to say 100 words.

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Missuse of quote button is very annoying thing. For example, someone quotes ANN with all images and just drop generic sentence after full quote. If you you're quoting long text, it would be better to remove irrelevant parts of text. Another annoying thing - pyramid quotes.
But I think it's not problem of new members only. Many high ranked users also missusing quote button. Even I did these mistakes not so long time ago - I quoted full OP, made pyramid quotes and etc. I didn't cared much about how my posts looks, because I saw majority of users doing same thing. I only realised that such quoting is annoying after release of Merit system by reading all these guides how to get Merit. And I think that now posting culture increased a bit and hope that posting etiquette will continue to improve into positive side.

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