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April 18, 2020, 05:20:10 PM
#84
E-sport is just a niche at the moment, so you will only find games like CS: GO, DOTA 2, and LOL simply because these games have many events, and its user base is enormous compared to other games. That being said, the number of users is the most crucial thing if you want to host some event.

Anyway, back to the topic, if you host amateurs, I don't think you will attract enough number of bettors to be profitable. Perhaps 1,000 amateur events only equal to one professional event if we talk about the number of bettors and profit. So why bother?

Yup, no one would take the risk to host one for amateur players unless the host is really looking for a future pro player. Just like how a basketball coach would watch a tryout games for amateurs to find an aspiring player. But if you want to see an amateur tournament online, I think it is not profitable. I saw tournaments like this whenever there's an event connected to the sports and it is done in a certain place. For example, launching of a new gaming software or a gaming phone, or anniversary of a brand used for gaming, etc.
This is true and i dont know on what would be the given consideration if they do launch or include those amateur games/players.Of course they would go for pro ones yet
people would be more interested on seeing or betting into those teams which had already established out their names for longer years rather than betting blindly on new ones.

E-sports is indeed becoming bigger and bigger as years passed and we have seen several games do even hit multi-millions on prizepool when it comes to tourneys and
also its been some quite time that bookies already making out lines for these events.
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April 18, 2020, 05:04:16 PM
#83
Your idea seems interesting where you are the player in a moba genre game against other players and also bet on your team. So basically, your winning chances depends on your own skills. If there is already then this kind of gambling platform can be abused as you bet on other team and purposely lose unless you can only bet on your team.
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April 18, 2020, 07:59:25 AM
#82
E-sport is just a niche at the moment, so you will only find games like CS: GO, DOTA 2, and LOL simply because these games have many events, and its user base is enormous compared to other games. That being said, the number of users is the most crucial thing if you want to host some event.

Anyway, back to the topic, if you host amateurs, I don't think you will attract enough number of bettors to be profitable. Perhaps 1,000 amateur events only equal to one professional event if we talk about the number of bettors and profit. So why bother?

Yup, no one would take the risk to host one for amateur players unless the host is really looking for a future pro player. Just like how a basketball coach would watch a tryout games for amateurs to find an aspiring player. But if you want to see an amateur tournament online, I think it is not profitable. I saw tournaments like this whenever there's an event connected to the sports and it is done in a certain place. For example, launching of a new gaming software or a gaming phone, or anniversary of a brand used for gaming, etc.
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April 18, 2020, 02:36:12 AM
#81
The problem with hosting amateur MOBA tournaments betting is that it is very hard because you will need a lot of players to outsource and even if you outsource the players, the players the problem is that they wouldn't show up and play at the chosen time, in short amateur players lack commitment to fully participate in the whole scheme. Even if you tick the imaginary box above you can't ignore that there will competitors that are more established (I don't know any sites though Sad). You also need to consider advertising but that comes easy when you have outsourced the players.
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April 17, 2020, 03:39:14 PM
#80
There are so many amateur player out there and I know most of us likes to gamble,
So my question is why aren't there any website that could host a MOBA betting for amateurs were they could bet and they could earn from their own skill.
Who know's maybe because of it they would be a well known player and become a professional.
I knew a lot of MOBA tournaments wherein you can earn real money. It exists in schools, offices and towns.  If there are players, there are watchers too that put their bet to to players who have the highest potential to win. Well, we all know that some are well known DOTA players because of Dota 2 - The International. In some other popular games like Moba, it is not impossible to happen
It's not about the tournament, actually it refers to some professional players, streamers that are amateur on MOBA. It's like betting on someone that's good at that game and plays really well. If you're confident enough to show off your skills and gameplays, that's the way you'll earn money. IMO, @OP is talking about in the underground, the tournament is already mainstream and already earning a lot of money on each round.
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April 17, 2020, 10:18:06 AM
#79
I knew a lot of MOBA tournaments wherein you can earn real money. It exists in schools, offices and towns.  If there are players, there are watchers too that put their bet to to players who have the highest potential to win. Well, we all know that some are well known DOTA players because of Dota 2 - The International. In some other popular games like Moba, it is not impossible to happen
OP isn't looking for a tournament though it's more of a best of 1 match with an entrance fee and the winning team takes it all. Those type of betting used to be popular in internet cafes since it's easy to set matches if you could quickly form your own team and know other players that are good.



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April 17, 2020, 08:57:57 AM
#78
There are so many amateur player out there and I know most of us likes to gamble,
So my question is why aren't there any website that could host a MOBA betting for amateurs were they could bet and they could earn from their own skill.
Who know's maybe because of it they would be a well known player and become a professional.
I knew a lot of MOBA tournaments wherein you can earn real money. It exists in schools, offices and towns.  If there are players, there are watchers too that put their bet to to players who have the highest potential to win. Well, we all know that some are well known DOTA players because of Dota 2 - The International. In some other popular games like Moba, it is not impossible to happen
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April 10, 2020, 06:13:00 AM
#77
It's funny how people say it as e-sports.

I am not saying it is wrong but it been a while since I read it again with a hyphen. Answering the OP, as far as I know, betting in your own games is not allowed since there is a lot of match-fixing in the past. The most common is the 322 incident or the Ibuypower in CSGO. There are platforms where players from amateur to professional can play and invite players to play like FPL, but in terms of betting on it, there is none. If you want to earn from your skills in esports, I think going professional is the choice and not betting on your games.
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April 10, 2020, 05:18:21 AM
#76
There are so many amateur player out there and I know most of us likes to gamble,
So my question is why aren't there any website that could host a MOBA betting for amateurs were they could bet and they could earn from their own skill.
Who know's maybe because of it they would be a well known player and become a professional.
To be honest, me and my friends always do MOBA betting and if there will be a worlds tournament in Leauge of Legends we sometimes invites other gamers for us to earn more money. I think the reason why there are no MOBA betting websites because gaming companies are not infavor in E-sports betting, that is why we always make bets privately to avoid issues in the gaming Industry.

not really mate . esports are been there for a while as a standard category in sportbetting sites  . on many sites that i have accessed i always see esports and mainly moba games on it  but im not really a fan of betting others play but xvids was right that id be more enjoy if i can play the game with my own placed bets  .

 connection on our place is stable but im afraid i can experience some delays if battling other regions  as lag spikes still occur here somtimes  but local betting or lan games is a good idea too  .
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April 10, 2020, 05:04:54 AM
#75
There are so many amateur player out there and I know most of us likes to gamble,
So my question is why aren't there any website that could host a MOBA betting for amateurs were they could bet and they could earn from their own skill.
Who know's maybe because of it they would be a well known player and become a professional.
To be honest, me and my friends always do MOBA betting and if there will be a worlds tournament in Leauge of Legends we sometimes invites other gamers for us to earn more money. I think the reason why there are no MOBA betting websites because gaming companies are not infavor in E-sports betting, that is why we always make bets privately to avoid issues in the gaming Industry.
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April 10, 2020, 03:59:28 AM
#74
E-sport is just a niche at the moment, so you will only find games like CS: GO, DOTA 2, and LOL simply because these games have many events, and its user base is enormous compared to other games. That being said, the number of users is the most crucial thing if you want to host some event.

Anyway, back to the topic, if you host amateurs, I don't think you will attract enough number of bettors to be profitable. Perhaps 1,000 amateur events only equal to one professional event if we talk about the number of bettors and profit. So why bother?
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April 10, 2020, 02:59:23 AM
#73
MOBA gambling are commonly just like sports betting that people bets which team will gonna win in the finals or in the game. This is also the reason why MOBA games and players became more famous all over the world because they people start to remember or to know about them after the watching the game and after the bet. MOBA gambling and sports betting is really a good gambling game that are good for entertainment and for your pastime.
It's true that MOBA gambling is just like sports betting that you will gonna bet a one team that you will think that gonna win.
Picking the right team in MOBA gambling and sports betting will help you win in the bet, that is why they are both the same.

For example, DOTA 2 is considered as a MOBA game and it is the most famous game in the history of MOBA. There are a lot of people who play DOTA 2 and now, it has a lot of tournament like, TI, Major, ESL and etc., so it is more likely that people will make a gambling platform for that esports betting. Many players around the world are a fan of different teams in Dota 2, I'm a fan of OG and I can bet my crypto for them, just like that. Moba gambling is necessary this time as the quarantine is still implemented, we can bet inside our house and we can also watch them play if they stream their game. There are lot of people who bet their money to their favorite team, and it depends on the team if it will win against the opponent or not. Most probably, I bet when it is already a finals so that the game is exciting and thrilling to watch.
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April 10, 2020, 01:59:15 AM
#72
There are so many amateur player out there and I know most of us likes to gamble,
So my question is why aren't there any website that could host a MOBA betting for amateurs were they could bet and they could earn from their own skill.
Who know's maybe because of it they would be a well known player and become a professional.
Why? Maybe because it is hard to host E sports? Imagine if there would be a 5v5 battle online (take note of that) and place a bet then suddenly a one player from the other team disconnected due to slow internet connection. Where the bets will go, to the other team? I think it is unfair especially when you knew that your team is leading. This is just one of the few conflicts I imagine.

Maybe what they can do is to run a MOBA tournament and then do the bettings. At least technical errors will greatly minimized because they are all inside a one venue provided with proper equipments and strong connection. By means of that, alibis are not valid when a particular team lose thus there will be no delays on betting transactions Cheesy.

I think this is the major problem too. Amateurs will be playing and they would not know them. Hosting a tournament with the involvement of money is very hard online. Especially from my country which has a slow internet connection. It is somehow a big project. Players would not know each other, and I suppose there would be an entry fee. That why it is better to hold tournaments in one place, less hassle. And how would the audience bet if they didn't know who are the players? Or are the players betting for themselves?

I've attended amateur Dota and ML tournaments. It can be held on any computer shops or any open space. If you are a good player, you will be discovered. And if a pro team is looking for players, they will hold an application process, a tryout. And if amateur players are looking for other players to bet with, they can meet up, less risk of being scammed.
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April 10, 2020, 01:11:42 AM
#71
There are so many online tournament about MOBA, acutally it is really good that's why some countries considered this as e-sports and some countries also included e-sports as subject in the school which is actually good because its not like what other thinks about playing online games especially moba, they think that it will destroy our lives, thinking that there is no good things that this MOBA will give to us, but they are wrong because while playing we are using our good mindset, it let us to think well, some steategies and skills, it will help us to improve the way we think and that is really good for the students.
You are suggesting that we should have betting on MOBA, well that is good but I don't think if there is existing websites for bettung MOBA.
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April 09, 2020, 11:54:52 PM
#70
Sports betting sites only broadcast events whether esports of sports and places bets to speculate who who win or losses and depending on the odds you can multiply your profit.
But doesn't mean they're prohibited in hosting an esports competition, they might be simply thinking is it worth the money ?
There are already some doing this, hosting some eSports competition, but most of the participants or teams are all professional, just like in Dota 2 or CSGO, it's a kinda good move for them since they are the host and for sure they can advertise their website to those who are a fan of eSports games, it's also one of the ways to lure some gamblers.
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April 09, 2020, 10:31:47 PM
#69
There are so many amateur player out there and I know most of us likes to gamble,
So my question is why aren't there any website that could host a MOBA betting for amateurs were they could bet and they could earn from their own skill.
Who know's maybe because of it they would be a well known player and become a professional.
The idea is already existed but not very reliable because you are betting on someone where the player himself can influence the probability of winning. It's easier to do an eSports bet because those players are genuine and determined to win the game and they want to put the name of the team on top.

You know guys, I think the real gambling is not video games.
Avoid having a traditional mindset.
People who hold gambling gate or should I say gatekeepers are very narrow-minded about new forms of playing.

Gambling is being updated as with our modern, non-stop-developing technology, which has already reached eSports, and even politics. Any games or activity which can play and gamble should be considered gambling. You can't say the video games aren't gambling simply because you can't see them in the casino house personally.
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April 09, 2020, 09:55:53 PM
#68
Sports betting sites only broadcast events whether esports of sports and places bets to speculate who who win or losses and depending on the odds you can multiply your profit.
But doesn't mean they're prohibited in hosting an esports competition, they might be simply thinking is it worth the money ?
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April 09, 2020, 08:38:47 PM
#67
You know guys, I think the real gambling is not video games.
The world is changing even a song entry, pageants and much more gets onto gambling and if you think MOBA isn't get into gambling you have totally wrong optimism of it. Even the players wouldn't want it but there are platforms that allow it and it's a game of skills so people love to make an analysis over it on who they'll bet for.

We are getting into more the depth of technology and betting more on MOBA games will be huge in the next decades, that's what I think that'll will likely most to happen.
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April 09, 2020, 07:45:01 PM
#66
You know guys, I think the real gambling is not video games.
As a millennial, we should adapt to the technology that is bringing up every year. The ways people gamble nowadays are online and of course, traditional gambling isn't fading. E-sports isn't really a sport some years ago but today it is adopted by major sports event like sea games.

Bet games aren't new, But it is adapted by e-sports players for fun and of course, the money that is on stake for the excitement of each team.

It's fun you know.
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April 09, 2020, 10:42:00 AM
#65
It's kinda risky if you are not totally contended on your skills especially you doing it for gambling. The good side here as what OP said is it will help you to develop your skills on particular MOBA games.
But if we talk gambling here, I'd rather to do gambling in some professional players playing in some tournament there, atleast you can analyze some teams before the match.
I agree betting on pro games is much better since you could gather information on their past matches and there's probably far better alternatives like playing in house leagues or matchmaking if skill improvement is the main priority.

Great idea since there are amateur players that doesn't have a sponsor or purely depends on betting at their own skills to earn through the games that they love.
There are so many website that focus on pro so I think it is time that we have this kind of opportunity for everyone, Although I know there are still on going amateur tournament all over the world to see some potential pro gamers,
But having a website would make it easier for the scouts to see some player that would be great to add on their team.
There's already a website that offers these services it's called faceit but they don't do gambling since it'll be expensive if players have to pay for every match.
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