Nothing really to 'come at you' with, other than to remind you that IPL confirms a deal with Rivaa, for the usual payment terms, but that GES supplied Rivaa under the terms of the URO agreement.
That is the significance of the time delay between the January-dated contracted only now being able to be process because of the archaic banking process, whereas the GES deal with Rivaa was able to be transacted in days because of URO.
Topic: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] First Urea Commodity Token: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea - page 175. (Read 227157 times)
July 15, 2014, 10:52:39 AM
July 15, 2014, 10:43:29 AM
OK HERE IS MY BOMBSHELL TO SHUT THIS SCAM UP INDEFINATELY:
Here are the terms from India Potash Limited for dealing with them on buying UREA:
Shipment Terms : As per Annexure III.
9) Payment:
a) Without prejudice to Buyer's right to recover the damages under terms of the Contract, payment less agency commission, if any, shall be made through an irrevocable, non transfer¬able divisible commercial letter of credit. The letter of credit shall be established for the full value of the shipment in favour of the Sellers on nomination and acceptance of vessel on receipt of P.G. Bond and shall be payable for 100% of the invoice value against presentation of the following documents:
1) Two of the three original negotiable copies of the clean ‘Bill of Lading’ in long form and three non-negotiable copies thereof showing “ TO ORDER/ MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS & FERTILIZERS” as consignee. Charter party Bills of Lading acceptable provided it bears an endorsement that all the terms and conditions of the relevant Charter Party are deemed to have been incorporated therein.
2) Three original and three copies of beneficiary's signed ‘COMMERCIAL INVOICE’ for 100% Shipment Value. The Commercial Invoice must also specify Contract No. & date, Origin of goods, Port of Loading, Bill of Lading No(s), Date of Sailing of Vessel.
3) One original and two copies of ‘Certificate of Origin’ duly issued either by the Local Chamber of Commerce or by Ministry of Trade/Industry/Commerce of the country of Origin of goods. Certificate of Origin issued by Manufacturer/ Supplier/Shipper/ Inspection Agency /Chamber of Commerce of third Country or any one else are not acceptable.
4) One Original + Two copies of ‘Certificate of Inspection’ issued by the Buyer’s inspecting
agency showing results of analysis, method of analysis adopted and weight of the cargo
shipped. The Certificate must certify that the goods conform to the contractual quality
specifications.
5) One Original + Two copies of ‘Certificate of Quality’ issued by the Buyer’s inspecting
agency showing results of analysis and method of analysis adopted. The Certificate must
certify that the goods conform to the contractual quality specifications.
6) One Original + Two copies of ‘Certificate of Weight’ issued by the Buyer’s inspecting
agency showing weight of the cargo shipped.
7) One Original + Two copies of Certificate from the seller, showing results of analysis, method
of analysis, weight of the cargo shipped and certifying that the cargo conforms to the
contractual quality specifications. This certificate should be countersigned by the Buyer’s
inspecting agency.
One Original + Two copies of Certificate from the seller confirming that the material
supplied are correct as to quantity, rate, total value and the payment is due in accordance
with the terms of the contract at the time of presentation.
9) Copy of the ‘Shipping Advice’ sent by the Sellers to Buyers, through Fax / E-mail within 48
hours of the sailing of the vessel giving details of shipment. the name of vessel, Bill of
Lading No’s & date, Date of sailing, quantity shipped, Contract No & date, L/c No & date.
10)Certificate from the seller to the effect that the following documents have been dispatched
by the seller to the buyer through an reputed courier or registered airmail within seven days
of sailing of the vessel, along with Original Postal/Courier Receipt of such dispatch :
- Two of the three original negotiable copies of the clean ‘Bill of Lading (s)’ in long form for full shipment quantity.
- Two copies of beneficiary's signed ‘COMMERCIAL INVOICE’ for 100% Shipment Value.
- Two copies of Certificate of Origin.
11) One Original + Two copies of ‘Stowage Plan’. Stowage Plan must be signed in ink by the
Master of the vessel and must bear his seal. In case Stowage Plan is issued by Vessels
Load Port Agents, original Letter of Authority issued by the Master of the vessel authorizing
the issuance/signing of Stowage Plan by the Vessels Load Port Agents must be attached
to such Stowage Plan.
12)One Original + two copies of Load Port ‘Draft Survey Report’, jointly signed by shippers agent, Vessel master/Agent and Buyer’s inspecting agency.
13) Original NOR (Notice of readiness) tendered at discharge port and received by IPL
or its nominated agency (applicable in case of CNF Contracts with non-traditional suppliers only).
The L/C shall be established only after receipt of PG Bond in the approved proforma, proof of stock, nomination and acceptance of vessel. The charges for establishing letter of credit and bank charges in the country of Buyers shall be to the Buyer's account. All bank charges in the sellers country shall be to the account of sellers. The letter of credit extension and amend¬ment charges will be to the account of the party responsible for occasioning the extension/amendment.
10. Proof of stock:
Non-traditional Suppliers will be required to submit proof of stock attested by the Chamber of Commerce or Prime bank of the Country concerned through State Bank of India, New Delhi alongwith PG Bond at prescribed rates.
PROVIDE THOSE DOCUMENTS AND I WILL SHUT UP
Here are the terms from India Potash Limited for dealing with them on buying UREA:
Shipment Terms : As per Annexure III.9) Payment:
a) Without prejudice to Buyer's right to recover the damages under terms of the Contract, payment less agency commission, if any, shall be made through an irrevocable, non transfer¬able divisible commercial letter of credit. The letter of credit shall be established for the full value of the shipment in favour of the Sellers on nomination and acceptance of vessel on receipt of P.G. Bond and shall be payable for 100% of the invoice value against presentation of the following documents:
1) Two of the three original negotiable copies of the clean ‘Bill of Lading’ in long form and three non-negotiable copies thereof showing “ TO ORDER/ MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS & FERTILIZERS” as consignee. Charter party Bills of Lading acceptable provided it bears an endorsement that all the terms and conditions of the relevant Charter Party are deemed to have been incorporated therein.
2) Three original and three copies of beneficiary's signed ‘COMMERCIAL INVOICE’ for 100% Shipment Value. The Commercial Invoice must also specify Contract No. & date, Origin of goods, Port of Loading, Bill of Lading No(s), Date of Sailing of Vessel.
3) One original and two copies of ‘Certificate of Origin’ duly issued either by the Local Chamber of Commerce or by Ministry of Trade/Industry/Commerce of the country of Origin of goods. Certificate of Origin issued by Manufacturer/ Supplier/Shipper/ Inspection Agency /Chamber of Commerce of third Country or any one else are not acceptable.
4) One Original + Two copies of ‘Certificate of Inspection’ issued by the Buyer’s inspecting
agency showing results of analysis, method of analysis adopted and weight of the cargo
shipped. The Certificate must certify that the goods conform to the contractual quality
specifications.
5) One Original + Two copies of ‘Certificate of Quality’ issued by the Buyer’s inspecting
agency showing results of analysis and method of analysis adopted. The Certificate must
certify that the goods conform to the contractual quality specifications.
6) One Original + Two copies of ‘Certificate of Weight’ issued by the Buyer’s inspecting
agency showing weight of the cargo shipped.
7) One Original + Two copies of Certificate from the seller, showing results of analysis, method
of analysis, weight of the cargo shipped and certifying that the cargo conforms to the
contractual quality specifications. This certificate should be countersigned by the Buyer’s
inspecting agency.
One Original + Two copies of Certificate from the seller confirming that the material supplied are correct as to quantity, rate, total value and the payment is due in accordance
with the terms of the contract at the time of presentation.
9) Copy of the ‘Shipping Advice’ sent by the Sellers to Buyers, through Fax / E-mail within 48
hours of the sailing of the vessel giving details of shipment. the name of vessel, Bill of
Lading No’s & date, Date of sailing, quantity shipped, Contract No & date, L/c No & date.
10)Certificate from the seller to the effect that the following documents have been dispatched
by the seller to the buyer through an reputed courier or registered airmail within seven days
of sailing of the vessel, along with Original Postal/Courier Receipt of such dispatch :
- Two of the three original negotiable copies of the clean ‘Bill of Lading (s)’ in long form for full shipment quantity.
- Two copies of beneficiary's signed ‘COMMERCIAL INVOICE’ for 100% Shipment Value.
- Two copies of Certificate of Origin.
11) One Original + Two copies of ‘Stowage Plan’. Stowage Plan must be signed in ink by the
Master of the vessel and must bear his seal. In case Stowage Plan is issued by Vessels
Load Port Agents, original Letter of Authority issued by the Master of the vessel authorizing
the issuance/signing of Stowage Plan by the Vessels Load Port Agents must be attached
to such Stowage Plan.
12)One Original + two copies of Load Port ‘Draft Survey Report’, jointly signed by shippers agent, Vessel master/Agent and Buyer’s inspecting agency.
13) Original NOR (Notice of readiness) tendered at discharge port and received by IPL
or its nominated agency (applicable in case of CNF Contracts with non-traditional suppliers only).
The L/C shall be established only after receipt of PG Bond in the approved proforma, proof of stock, nomination and acceptance of vessel. The charges for establishing letter of credit and bank charges in the country of Buyers shall be to the Buyer's account. All bank charges in the sellers country shall be to the account of sellers. The letter of credit extension and amend¬ment charges will be to the account of the party responsible for occasioning the extension/amendment.
10. Proof of stock:
Non-traditional Suppliers will be required to submit proof of stock attested by the Chamber of Commerce or Prime bank of the Country concerned through State Bank of India, New Delhi alongwith PG Bond at prescribed rates.
PROVIDE THOSE DOCUMENTS AND I WILL SHUT UP
July 15, 2014, 10:43:12 AM
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July 15, 2014, 10:34:14 AM
Well, I have to say I stand corrected on my concerns about this project and I am pleased to say so.
I spent the last 48 hours doing some pretty solid research into URO and, while I might still have some issues with the structure of the companies behind it, I do understand the way in which people like Nilesh work as well as the limitations of the associated online footprint related to the kind of deals done in these situations. I also telephoned Mr Singh in India, the man who brokers the IPL trades and politely asked him to confirm a few things, which he was professional enough to do.
It is important that people remember, in this instance, URO is not a currency, it is a commodity.
We need to accept that it requires a different perspective to understand how a commodity-backed coin works, especially the initial stages of establishing an accepted market price in the trading environment. Once a reasonable market price for the 'coin' is reached, the 'difficult' birth of the project has been achieved and any trade whereby one party accepted 1URO for payment of 1 tonne of UREA and held on to the coins they received, would ensure that they did, indeed, receive the usual market-price for the transaction, even if the the purchaser got themselves a bargain at the time by paying significantly less for their URO coins.
It is a steep hill to climb initially but once the trading parties can see that 1URO is priced at an equivalent market rate for 1 tonne of UREA, then many more participants in the industry will come on board simply to benefit from the fluidity of transacting in URO.
The early adopters benefit by getting some raw materials at a bargain price and the suppliers, as long as the coin price floor is set high enough, soon enough, do not lose out on the deal and, more importantly, are not subjected to the inequities of the third-world banking system that would otherwise massively handicap the completion of these trade deals.
I spent the last 48 hours doing some pretty solid research into URO and, while I might still have some issues with the structure of the companies behind it, I do understand the way in which people like Nilesh work as well as the limitations of the associated online footprint related to the kind of deals done in these situations. I also telephoned Mr Singh in India, the man who brokers the IPL trades and politely asked him to confirm a few things, which he was professional enough to do.
It is important that people remember, in this instance, URO is not a currency, it is a commodity.
We need to accept that it requires a different perspective to understand how a commodity-backed coin works, especially the initial stages of establishing an accepted market price in the trading environment. Once a reasonable market price for the 'coin' is reached, the 'difficult' birth of the project has been achieved and any trade whereby one party accepted 1URO for payment of 1 tonne of UREA and held on to the coins they received, would ensure that they did, indeed, receive the usual market-price for the transaction, even if the the purchaser got themselves a bargain at the time by paying significantly less for their URO coins.
It is a steep hill to climb initially but once the trading parties can see that 1URO is priced at an equivalent market rate for 1 tonne of UREA, then many more participants in the industry will come on board simply to benefit from the fluidity of transacting in URO.
The early adopters benefit by getting some raw materials at a bargain price and the suppliers, as long as the coin price floor is set high enough, soon enough, do not lose out on the deal and, more importantly, are not subjected to the inequities of the third-world banking system that would otherwise massively handicap the completion of these trade deals.
July 15, 2014, 10:33:11 AM
Urocoin is the Only Alt. Coin to show so much proof and documents backing. From HSBC Banking Documents, International Companies to Indian Government.
On GES https://twitter.com/GESystemsgroup there is a lot of mention in regards to Pakistan.
Pakistan has TCP http://greenearthsystems.com.au/tcp-urea-welcomes-talks-with-ges-in-pakistan/
which does the same as IPL in India, Import UREA.
The latest news shows GES in Bed with TCP Pakistan
URO is soon to be in Pakistan, as the importers also face the same banking challenges as we do with Indian banks
[/quote]
On GES https://twitter.com/GESystemsgroup there is a lot of mention in regards to Pakistan.
Pakistan has TCP http://greenearthsystems.com.au/tcp-urea-welcomes-talks-with-ges-in-pakistan/
which does the same as IPL in India, Import UREA.
The latest news shows GES in Bed with TCP Pakistan
URO is soon to be in Pakistan,
as the importers also face the same banking challenges as we do with Indian banks[/quote]
July 15, 2014, 10:29:44 AM
Urea price isn't .2 or .3 it's about .5 btc.
July 15, 2014, 10:24:27 AM
Lol insert "Caucasian middle-aged businessman sitting in office talking on cellphone" for added legitimacy, let's pick a name, well "John should do it!"
http://www.visualphotos.com/image/2x4694737/caucasian_middle-aged_businessman_sitting_in
By the way, if you plan on deleting this post. I took a screenshot and deleting this will not work in your favor.
http://www.visualphotos.com/image/2x4694737/caucasian_middle-aged_businessman_sitting_in
By the way, if you plan on deleting this post. I took a screenshot and deleting this will not work in your favor.
Good research! Chances are they just wanted to use a professional photo instead of the lame one like the rest of the pictures on that list.
July 15, 2014, 10:23:23 AM
By putting this with your comment- you are embarrassing your self.
Go read and see what's real.
I will leave it here for every1 to have a laugh.
Thanks
Go read and see what's real.
I will leave it here for every1 to have a laugh.
Thanks
Well hello there "John"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0y9IoRnVQU
July 15, 2014, 10:19:55 AM
GES is pretty involved in Urea trading
Want some proof?
http://www.exportid.com/search_members.html?search=urea%20fertilizer&country=all&page=10
You might try ordering Urea via online chatting with a sales rep?
http://crusher.conicalcrusher.com/urea-crushing-manufacturing-in-australia.html
Want some proof?
http://www.exportid.com/search_members.html?search=urea%20fertilizer&country=all&page=10
You might try ordering Urea via online chatting with a sales rep?
http://crusher.conicalcrusher.com/urea-crushing-manufacturing-in-australia.html
Isn't the "John" that is listed as the representative Nilesh Nair's 'other' name. He goes by the alias of 'John Bergson' and 'John Bergerson'.
That advertisement is fake. Anyone can post an advertisement for their company on those advertising forums and indeed anywhere on the net without having to provide accurate information.
Lol insert "Caucasian middle-aged businessman sitting in office talking on cellphone" for added legitimacy, let's pick a name, well "John should do it!"
http://www.visualphotos.com/image/2x4694737/caucasian_middle-aged_businessman_sitting_in
By the way, if you plan on deleting this post. I took a screenshot and deleting this will not work in your favor.
July 15, 2014, 10:02:48 AM
July 15, 2014, 10:01:06 AM
i thought this moderated thread kick all fuders
+1No kidding. They don't have a problem deleting my posts with foul language but they let these trolls run amok.
its good to leave some fud to laugh at now, embarrass themselfes
lol
July 15, 2014, 09:59:54 AM
i thought this moderated thread kick all fuders
+1No kidding. They don't have a problem deleting my posts with foul language but they let these trolls run amok.
its good to leave some fud to laugh at now, embarrass themselfes
July 15, 2014, 09:59:26 AM
That 2000 buy order on bittrex.
Keeps shifting it around from a buy to a sell, he never actually fills.
July 15, 2014, 09:57:46 AM
That 2000 buy order on bittrex.
July 15, 2014, 09:57:02 AM
i thought this moderated thread kick all fuders
+1No kidding. They don't have a problem deleting my posts with foul language but they let these trolls run amok.
July 15, 2014, 09:44:10 AM
BEst you can do is- click on the BTC-URO orderbook on the top of the charts
July 15, 2014, 09:38:14 AM
UROCOIN in top 3 of exchanges ...moving fast
Big Boys rushing in to Bittrex
UroCoin reaches over 300BTC so far
UroCoin reaches over 300BTC so far
July 15, 2014, 09:26:09 AM
Big Boys rushing in to Bittrex
UroCoin reaches over 300BTC so far
UroCoin reaches over 300BTC so far
July 15, 2014, 09:15:54 AM
URO number 1 on exchanges, again. This time it remains
Uro is confirmed by Indian Government - 100%
speak in Hindi when you do call the Delhi head office - the proof so far,
IPL had a tender ending in Jan2014
IPL 99% deals with Indian owned companies as IPL is Indian Government
Indian UREA buyers use international companies to get UREA into India (GES)
The Code on IPL letter is real and checks out
IPL letter is real - checks out
The IPL members sign. checks out
GES is dealing with Rivaa - checks out 100% confirmed by Rivaa
Rivaa is dealing with IPL for UREA checks out 100%
http://www.indianpotash.org/
URO will hit over $329 as 1 MT UREA in India as stated by IPL is now - $329 USD
Uro is confirmed by Indian Government - 100%
speak in Hindi when you do call the Delhi head office - the proof so far,
IPL had a tender ending in Jan2014
IPL 99% deals with Indian owned companies as IPL is Indian Government
Indian UREA buyers use international companies to get UREA into India (GES)
The Code on IPL letter is real and checks out
IPL letter is real - checks out
The IPL members sign. checks out
GES is dealing with Rivaa - checks out 100% confirmed by Rivaa
Rivaa is dealing with IPL for UREA checks out 100%
http://www.indianpotash.org/
URO will hit over $329 as 1 MT UREA in India as stated by IPL is now - $329 USD
July 15, 2014, 09:13:57 AM
Please don't encourage every tom dick and harry to call IPL, most likely it will lead to more harassment and more bribery attempts like in the RIVAA calls.
As far as IPL is concerned they would most likely have little knowledge or involvement in the URO transactions between GES and RIVAA, their focus would be on RIVAA fulfilling the Urea order.
As far as IPL is concerned they would most likely have little knowledge or involvement in the URO transactions between GES and RIVAA, their focus would be on RIVAA fulfilling the Urea order.
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