Topic: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] First Urea Commodity Token: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea - page 181. (Read 227157 times)

give it some time

So much cheering and only 2 donors with me being one of them. Sad. 

Because no group of people looking to perpetrate a potential million-dollar fraud would think about making a google-hangout session look like it was legit, right?

Again I have to highlight the fact true-asset stated that the user who questioned the Australian office address was wrong to do so because, according to true-asset, it is the Hong Kong office that should have been scrutinised. But the Hong Kong office address they give is not an office you actually run your business from, so where is their physical office where they turn up for work every morning?

OK. I did the google search.  Maybe it's just me, but I only turned up a handful of companies with that address, repeated many times as they are listed on many different sites.

To me it looks like a shared office situation.  Sorry, but that's what it looks like.

What's the name of this registration company that's one of the largest in the world.  Should be easy enough to verify they operate with that address, since you're *extremely* familiar with them.

If I'm wrong, I'll say it, but so far I don't see that I am.

I do note that a couple of the companies using that address deal in import/export of...wait for it...urea.

Well we do know A office exists because True Asset did his Google hangout from one, and there were employees walking by in the background, one even walked in to give him a glass of water so obviously his co-workers knew what he was doing with the interview and it wasn't just him messing around on company time on his own project.

I don't think a "rent a office" is a sign to disregard a project, there is a reason 10% of businesses in America use them, it's cheaper and reduces overhead. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if the Bitcoin Foundation's offices are a rent an office.

Is it that you're really reluctant to check these things out for yourself? We're not talking about renting office space in the building, we are talking about a specific part of that building cited by a company formation agent as the 'registered office' for hundreds of companies they manage.

Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong

Do a google search on that address.

You'll have to click on 'repeat the search with omitted results included' because there are so many different company names associated with that specific address.

Nobody turns up for work in the morning to work there apart from the people employed by the company formation agent.

So where are 'Green Earth Systems' actually working from?

It's also a building where you can rent office space.

http://www.primeoffice.com.hk/hong_kong_office/building_index/Building_Profile.asp?B=6424

So no, you're not able to say it's not where they operate from. You're pretending to have knowledge you don't have.

It's a rent-a-meeting-room virtual office but, primarily, it's the address used by the company formation agent. But are you purposely ignoring the fact that, after this was raised by 'nade70' he was told that it didn't matter anyway because it was the Hong Kong office that he should have been scrutinising.

Well, I have scrutinised it and I'm telling you that the address is that used by one of the biggest company incorporation and management firms in the world, namely, you buy a company for a few hundred bucks from them and they register it to that address where their offices are and file the statutory company documents from there.

It is not where anyone from 'Green Earth Systems' turns up for work every morning to sit at a desk and run the business.

This is why I am asking if there is any evidence of their physical office, the one they actually do turn up for work to every morning.

The post you quote about the Australia location is exactly what I said it was - a shared office space.  Check the link yourself.

No, I don't misunderstand what these locations are. I am *extremely* familiar with how company formation and tax planning structures are created and managed.


So, according to 'true-asset' it is the Hong Kong office that is the hub of business activity for Green Earth Systems, no?

Well I can assure you that I am also *extremely* familiar with Kinwick Centre 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong. It is where a very very large number of companies are registered by one of the biggest company formation agents in the world.

You do *not* run your business from that address.

Can I just say something

Alot of people keep saying "The PR needs to be better, the PR needs to be better"

Both I and True Asset COMPLETELY agree on this.

But you know what, the public relations of the crypto COMMUNITY needs to be better too. The level of trolling ,vulgarities and outright childishness displayed on bitcointalk last week is absolutely embarrassing, if I were the average middle-aged investor coming in to investigate crypto in general I'd take a look at just a few postings on here and be turned off immediately. It doesn't matter if you "think" the coin is fraud, going about it typing SCAM SCAM SCAM! in big bold letters and posting images of feces or saying Pisscoin over and over is not a reflection of the coin but a reflection of yourself as a human being. It absolutely amazes me some people here who may have even got rich off Bitcoin still have the minds of a 14 year-old boy.

Some really great projects were absolutely killed by irrational brainless fudding. Auroracoin turned out to be a legit coin where the dev actually committed to the airdrop for weeks and months after the great P&D of 2014 and Payu Harris of Maza is still working his ass off going around to outlets like NPR to push his vision even though his coin is only 27 Satoshis. Please tell me, what "scam" dev who ran off with your money would keep working on a "dead" coin 6 months afterward?

Think, people.

Nice timing for article, price dropping, I hope price will rise after this article.

Let's recap-

Several community members have contacted Rivaa to verify the transaction of 12,500 URO for 12,500 metric tonnes of urea.

Rivaa has verified this transaction to the community members, who then shared the results with the community. 

Confirmation of the transaction is on record.

Some less scrupulous members of the community attempted to harass and bribe Rivaa to deny the transaction so that they could claim the bounty.

These people failed in their attempts, which would constitute fraud had they succeeded.


This deal is real.

Let's say they posted the email from Rivaa as you requested. What would that prove?

People would just say it's faked.  It's an email.

So why bother?  Why even ask?  It's pointless.

Doubters will continue to doubt.

There's no point in fighting that particular battle. None.

Rather than trying to pose in a god of sarcasm you could answer some questions.

But it the same with all you bagholders of visacoin, opecoin, auroracoin, spaincoin etc.....
Dreams made out of tweets.

You are indeed free to doubt.  And you are free not to invest.

So don't invest if you doubt.

Your problem is then solved.

No one is trying to silence you, you brave freedom warrior, you!

What is with this communist behavior of yours?
Who is not with us is against us?

I am free to ask I am free to doubt and I am free to advise others to stay away.
It's my point of view and I will say it loud and clear.

Probably you don't have a clue about how much we love freedom of speech around here.

Secondary , if this turn to be another scam/failure it will hurt cryptos again be giving people another failure to read about in the newspapers.

So don't invest.  There. Now you don't have to worry.

Actually, yes, you do run your business from there. You misunderstand what these locations are.  They are shared offices.

Can you please find some newspapers quoting those projects?
I haven't been able to find anything regarding those in any newspaper from those dates.


Can you post the entire email or the person who has informed you of this?

I have seen so many scam coins following this false company behind it scenario that I am almost 100% sure this will turn pretty ugly.