Moderator application for Polish local board - page 2.

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that's what I mean.
what's the point if a user is/would be against his candidacy as moderator if he has nothing to do with the polish subforum and is only doing it to spite wwzsocki
simply said, it is only important for the polish users, who will be/is moderator in the polish board, because those are the ones who can evaluate his work good and bad. and if wwzsocki has the 100% approval from us then there is ~~actually~~ nothing against it

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Quote from: cygan on January 07, 2024, 04:34:46 AM

why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?
we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch

just my 2 satoshis!

I agree based on what I've seen in terms of his reports being a 100% but I think there's a process that needs to be followed right and this isn't the right way as many have pointed out @theymos is the one that's appointing them so it's up to him on what's going to happen next, I do hope that @wwwzocki will get the opportunity and it's not like he's asking to be a moderator for a popular board, it's just the local board for Polish speakers so give it to him or to the candidate that the Polish board thinks deserves the spot. Definitely a test would help to prove if he or the elected candidate for moderator deserves the spot, it's not like it's going to be a hindrance for someone that wants to be a moderator to do a simple test right?

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Quote from: cygan on January 07, 2024, 04:34:46 AM

why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?

Why not?

He is a kind man and trusted person and I think the main question is just is the Polish local board needs a moderator. If local community needs it, wwzsocki can be one of best candidates. I knew that in a last time, the local board needed and voted for a local moderator, he is also one of the last chosen candidates. Eventually, malevolent took that position.

So why not him, this time?

Quote from: cygan on January 07, 2024, 04:34:46 AM

we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch

This is an interesting experience of Welsh on how a new moderator will start working. I see it is a normal process like everyone adapts to a new company business.

Quote from: Welsh on June 21, 2022, 10:44:47 AM

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4.4. How do you feel about the idea of giving more authority to local moderators (ban of violators, bots, unban appeal)?

I tend to believe its worked for this long, and becoming a moderator you don't go through a course or anything like that. theymos gives asks you, and then there's a few things in the staff forum to guide you. If you're making mistakes or not quite hitting the standards that theymos expects he'll message you, and very casually guide you. So, reducing the permissions of a local moderator reduces any issues that could pop up, in that lack of knowledge stage.

Plus, local moderators can get in contact with the big boys (Globals/admins), and ask them to escalate any cases. So, it's not like we don't communicate. Its not like you'd communicate in a office, but you ping things over to the big boys, and they get to decide the right course of action based on the local moderator's input. The system has worked for many years, and honestly there's not to many issues reported.

I think it's fine how it is.

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why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?
we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch

just my 2 satoshis!

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 06, 2024, 05:58:53 AM

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 05, 2024, 11:27:08 PM

Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.

I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.

I don't remember that. But, I guess I have seen somewhere you or someone else quoted, and the phrase was similar like "You should not ask to be a moderator" is the first condition to be a moderator. Maybe other criteria were posted by theymos several times in several threads.

Anyway, I guess this part is the most important and wwzsocki may want to keep it in mind;

Quote from: theymos on December 19, 2019, 04:22:30 PM

If a poll is created, I will not completely ignore the results, but I will also not use it as a primary influence. I'm more interested in arguments people have for or against certain candidates.

Good luck with your application

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 06, 2024, 05:58:53 AM

I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.

It can be Welsh. He shared his experience on how he became a moderator in his several posts and he was chosen as a moderator in like ICO spam waves in Bitcointalk.

Here is a post of Welsh but he wrote some posts about this in different topics like his interview's answers that has some interesting information about tasks of forum moderators and how they work.

Quote from: Welsh on October 03, 2019, 06:09:44 PM

Pretty much, and I've been reporting for years. However, I really ramped up my daily reports in the last 12 months or so before getting asked if I'd like to be a moderator. I was probably hitting a 1000 on a good day (or bad depending how you see it). At one point I was literally waking up, and putting in a hour before work, and then a few hours before bed. I pretty much made it my unofficial job to clear up all the shit that was getting posted. This was during a time where spam was everywhere you looked because of the popularity of Bitcoin back then. Handling reports takes a lot more time than making reports though, because I didn't really care for accuracy back then, and now I've got to do proper research before handling a report to avoid as many issues as possible, and of course we still make mistakes.

This is a moderator was appointed when a member rank is very low, Halab.

Quote from: Halab on October 03, 2019, 04:02:55 PM

I'll answer you with my example.
Registered in July 2017.
Appointed mod of the french section in July 2018 with the rank of member and 13 or 14 merits.
I wasn't the most active. I am far from having all the knowledge about Bitcoin. I'm not the most fluent in english, I hope I'm just understandable.
So you see the criteria for a local mod are not high. It must be higher for a mod in US section or a Global Mod.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 05, 2024, 11:27:08 PM

Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.

I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.

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I don't remember where I read it, But I guess I have seen such words like What is the qualification for moderator and there was an answer like You should not ask to be a moderator. I would like to call our AI LoyceV for that because he remembers almost 99% of the writings that theymos wrote regarding these matters. Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.

To be a moderator, your report stats and your contribution to the forum should be enough. I don't know if community support matters or not. But if it matters, then I support your application even though I am not your local. You have been there for a long time and you are a experienced campaigner.

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Quote from: digaran on January 05, 2024, 06:31:10 AM

Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?

You should refrain from your dirty attack towards wwzsocki or lokas0506 by your nasty replies!
Polish members are united to get a moderator.

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on January 05, 2024, 11:54:45 AM

I don't know if there is such a function as a local moderator, because in this thread the idea is not for wwzsocki to become a global official moderator, but only to be able to moderate our small backyard where a dozen or so users are active. nothing more. And it is only to do so temporarily until our current moderator returns. Do you really idealize this function so much that you demand from a candidate to be whiter than paper? Candidate chosen by the community for which he is about to do this function.

digaran is a one man show idiot and whenever he will appear he cannot be trusted

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Today he rode a dirty attack towards Igebotz too https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63445939

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Well, when it was needed to state my opinion about one of your compatriots on a merit source application, nobody called me a scammer, but as soon as I just stated a publicly known fact, I became a scammer? FYI, a mod should have some peace making skills to demonstrate, instead of ignoring the fact that this bozo lokas0506 just accused me of scam, he should have done a 5 min read to see if I'm actually a scammer or not, in order to correct this bozo. Typical tribal mindset, to discriminate against "strangers".

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on January 05, 2024, 02:13:26 AM

...Good point. @Wwzsocki, from what I remember, you used to report a lot?

I think, done 3K reports already with 99% success rate

Quote from: wwzsocki on January 04, 2024, 04:30:31 PM

...I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently...

I haven't checked my stats for a while, here are they:

exactly 3063 reports with 100% accuracy, I am surprised myself Shocked

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Quote from: digaran on January 05, 2024, 06:31:10 AM

Lol, so you wanna become an official mod?

I don't know if there is such a function as a local moderator, because in this thread the idea is not for wwzsocki to become a global official moderator, but only to be able to moderate our small backyard where a dozen or so users are active. nothing more. And it is only to do so temporarily until our current moderator returns. Do you really idealize this function so much that you demand from a candidate to be whiter than paper? Candidate chosen by the community for which he is about to do this function.

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Quote from: digaran on January 05, 2024, 06:31:10 AM

Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?

Edit: what is this shill below talking about? Probably butthurt?

First
It doesn't have to be me, it can also be the second candidate @Tytanowy Janusz (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tytanowy-janusz-1925869) or any other person, most important is to get a mod in our local board

I stated clearly that i will step out when @malevolent will be back, don't ask for any benefits, just wanted to help

Second
When it comes to what I do, I run many services here on forum from years with success, there are plenty of members that worked with me as workers, clients, team mates, that I have cooperation with, they are entitled to give opinion and many left feedback if my services are trustworthy, not you because i don't recall working with you, we even haven't spoken once, so why you jump on me? because of shill word or chatters used on my website and offers, common, grow up.

Third
@Lokas0506 is a great member from Polish local board, on forum from years, active and we agreed that Polish members will support this thread so they comment here of course.

Fourth
looks like you are looking for every occasion to make drama, I don't like personal fights, this is also why this discussion ends for me here

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Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?

Edit: what is this shill below talking about? Probably butthurt?

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Let's check past calls of forum admin when there was need for forum moderators. You can read to see how moderators were chosen in the past. Main factors can be personal reports and community support (vote).

Need several moderators (2011)
pyccкий мoдepaтop (Russian moderator) (2011)
Additional moderator needed (2012)
Moderatorul sectiunii Romane (2013)
Moderator (Greek) (2013)
Moderatora (Croatian) (2014)
Moderator (BitcoinJ) (2016)
New moderator needed (Korean) (2017)

It is the case of @mole0815 who was appointed years ago. A latest appointed moderator if I am right.

Quote from: theymos on December 19, 2019, 04:22:30 PM

There will only be one moderator.

Report history is the most important consideration for a moderator candidate. Over the forum's many years, relatively "newbie" members with good report histories have consistently done much better as mods than veteran, well-respected members with poor report histories. That said, not all reports are equal, so a simple report count doesn't tell the whole story. Also, in addition to report histories, it's necessary to consider factors such as the ability of the candidate to be neutral, their trustworthiness, etc. It's also nice to choose a moderator who people generally already trust/respect, but sometimes this is outweighed by other factors.

If a poll is created, I will not completely ignore the results, but I will also not use it as a primary influence. I'm more interested in arguments people have for or against certain candidates.

Here are the top non-bad report counts for the German sections over the last 6 months, along with the German boards which those reports covered (broader coverage being better).

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(My previous list of candidates came from the same list as above, in order, but the numbers have changed since then.)

One proposal years ago: Suggestion to update the obsolete moderators from various boards / child boards.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 04, 2024, 05:13:24 PM

Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications? I think application is only for merit source while theymos selects moderators. Besides, there have been many inactive moderators in the general forum and theymos hasn't replaced them.

as a reason for this I will quote and translate recent comment from thread in our local board called "we need new mod"

The only difference is that there are other mods and if general forum doesn't turn into garbage, you can assume that they have effectively taken over the responsibilities of the absent ones and are keeping up with their tasks. The problem with the Polish section is that we have had 0 moderators there for almost 10 months. There is no one to remove spam, there is no one to clean threads. We didn't know how to approach it, how to publicize the fact that we currently don't have our "Texas Ranger" for so long and finaly how to get a new mod. We decided to go the merit source route, i.e. choose the best candidate from ourselves and propose it here. If you have any advice on how to do it better and achieve success, we'd love to hear it.

Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 04, 2024, 05:13:24 PM

I think the above portfolios doesn't matter, what really matters is your reputation here and the number of good reports.

Good point. @Wwzsocki, from what I remember, you used to report a lot?

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 04, 2024, 05:13:24 PM

Quote from: wwzsocki on January 04, 2024, 04:30:31 PM

I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator

Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications?

I found a post(quoted below) by Mitchell from 2015 where he said he PM'ed Theymos and applied for the moderator spot on Dutch subsection when it became available. but then again, that post was from 2015 so I am not sure you can apply like that today.

Quote from: Mitchell on January 15, 2015, 03:01:37 AM

I became a moderator because PsychoticBoy quit and there was nobody assigned to moderate the Dutch subsection. I sent theymos a message in which I applied for that spot and got it.

also, according to Welsh who posted this thread(quoted post below) "how do mod get selected? do they get paid?", Theymos picks moderators if the forum needs one.

Quote from: Welsh on July 29, 2023, 09:05:13 AM

Beauty contest, it just turns out there wasn't many contestants my year, but yeah on a serious note theymos selects moderators based on whether the forum requires one. Obviously, frequent reporters will be on top of that list, but ultimately theymos is the only one who knows all the criteria. I expect, there's quite a few different factors that play into it.

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I'm not a member of the Polish board but I think the OP deserves some attention from Theymos. OP is one of the best candidates for that board and everyone should agree with me. I don't know if it's the correct way to apply for a moderator or not but if Theymos reads such posts then I hope he may also consider OP's application.

I don't know if my support means anything or not but if it means anything then count me in. I support the OP and I want to see how much support the OP will get on this thread from his own local board members. Best of luck from my side. I believe you're a good candidate to become a moderator. But, the final decision is of course in the hands of Theymos.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 04, 2024, 05:13:24 PM

Quote from: wwzsocki on January 04, 2024, 04:30:31 PM

I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator

Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications? ...

don't know TBH, this is why I also ask if this is a correct way

not only we don't know that but also few other Legendary and pretty active here members are not sure, so let's assume that this is not certain and i will wait for other members to comment on this.

I also haven't seen anybody that applied and was chosen but i never follow or followed meta closely. When we were talking in our local board such a way of application seemed to be the right way, especially if there was voting and all active lately members took part in it (yes there are only few of us left)

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