Topic: Moderator frodocooper editing post and reducing image size? (Read 505 times)

I've just tried the suggested link, it seems it hasn't worked since last year and the OP of that thread has now been offline for 49 days.  Please see this post.

Thank you all for providing feedback.
I sent @frodocooper a message, and now I am waiting for his reply and explanation.

Whatever his reply is, I will again edit my post and move it to some other forum section with different moderator.
With all due respects to mods but I will not be writing again in mining section.  

EDIT:
1. No reply from frodocoper
2. Post edited and moved to Bitcoin Discussion

I run into trouble due to my james joyce stream of consciousness style of writing.
I like to just write what my mind tells me to write.

I suspect that is why I get many alterations to my posts in mining.

It is cool I will still effort to write unaltered top of the head most of the time.

ever once in a while I do 175 img height or 180 img height and get a smile inside if it stays that size.

Honestly, Frody is strict as hell to the point that it piss me off sometimes, but I never complain simply because I know that nobody is perfect, and those annoying stuff that he might do from time to time can't negate the great stuff he does most of the time, so I chose to ingore mosts of them and appreciate the time and efforts he invests in the mining board, I can say without a doubt that the mining board has the lowest amount of spam/off-topics, if you aren't serious and don't chose your words carefully the mining board won't be sutible for you.

I do however, recognize your rights to post images of any size you see fit, 150  is more like the standard in the mining section, it's annoying to have to click the image to see it, but frod seems to want that standard to be applied regadless of how unclear some images might become when reduced to such a size.

Having said that and based on my personal experince, frod is a reasonable guy who would reply your PMs regarding any questions, he edited and deleted a ton of my own posts mostly because I quoted posts which were slightly off-topic or are on topic but contain some off-topic information, I reached out to him many times and most of the time he will reply within a short period of time and explain his actions, you should have sent him a PM when that happened, I am sure the outcome would haven better, he is a friendly dude regadless of the heavy hands he has got.

I think moderating a board is something that each moderator has to do in his own ways.
Apparently @frodocooper heavily edits messages that, even if don't break any forum rules, do not adhere ho is very precise, yet undisclosed, aesthetic taste.
In the italian board the moderator, @hostfat, is more like an "invisible hand", moderating messages (read: moving to the appropriate section) only after many different reports. Rarely posts, you barely know he's there.
I think even if a moderator isn't visible, the steering momentum he can give to a board are really powerful.

IMO, moderators shouldn't edit posts, unless there is very important reason for it. First, even if image is big, it doesn't goeas against forum rules, it just looks a bit annoying, especially when someone quote it. Resizing image is similar to correcting grammar mistakes, changing post layout and somethingsimilar. I think it's not job of moderators. But sometimes it feels that mining board is separate board from Bitcointalk where frodocooper  impose rules how he wants.

If you click it goes to the full size on imgur (in my case)

Do I like his methods for images not that much, but he works very hard at getting rid of spam and bs links.  which I like a lot.

So it is a mixed bag.

If I really cared about deleted posts stats  it would be annoying as he may delete back to back posts  that are 2 days apart.

Some threads are informational and the info changes.

I personally make no coin on that style of posting as I don't have a signature that earns money.

So at times I will double post 2 or 3 days apart on this thread.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/it-is-2020-time-for-a-new-diff-thread-5214026


My position is that even though the posts are back to back they are not for bumping they are more like a weather forecast for a farmer.

Merging them serves no purpose.

A post on tues with 1 set of info

a post on thur with a different set of info.   should be kept separate.

As many miners of btc can safely expand or contract their mining.

And since the diff is 2 weeks before it changes you can have an effective safe short term plan with the new info.

I personally don't think it should be merged.  Many of my deleted posts are due to this issue.

Here is an example.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54851897


this post has July 22 info

today is July 24 the info is almost identical

It means that s9's on free power are a safe bet to buy and set up right now. Assuming you get them local and set them up quickly.
Why is this true s9's are dirt cheap and you are pretty certain about the next 17-19 days of difficulty


If it changes a lot in 2 days to 3 days you may not want to buy 25-100 s9's and set them up.

Mining is like that now a lot of complicate economic choice needs to be made for a lot of 'small' business miners.

I would prefer some posts to not be merged. Such as this and the op's not to be shrunk.

How does unreadable chart help with that?

Maybe his screen resolution is just too low?

frodocooper has a vision for the aesthetic of the board and enforces is strictly. There is no rule violation with your images but they will be reduced in size and re-aligned them for what is considered to be readability reasons. It goes further though so don't be surprised if they remove various other custom posting style elements such as any additional spacing between paragraphs and/or quotes. I couldn't figure it out at one point in time and received a response to a PM, that also helped me figure out how to modify my image sizing, as well as some of the finer points of what was getting edited in my posts.

He shrinks them all bro.

@frodocooper edited my post several times, even after I reduced image size myself to bear minimum.
I needed to post links as source of information shown on images.
No need for him to make images stamp size.

Why he edited all other posts then??
Including this one and editing text:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5484/54848589.html

I agree with that.

Looking at frodocooper post history I think he just hates any kind of images.

Welcome to my world.

I have had 100 plus images shrunken by frodocooper.

I am used to it by now.

Yes mods can edit a post/topic. I do it from time to time, mostly for "cosmetic" reasons:
- Images really too big.
- Error in the quotes that makes the message unreadable.
- Error in the tags for URLs. The kind where I want to link to a website, but I actually link the rest of the message. Like this. Annoying, no ?
- Quote a whole long message (with lot of images) just to say OK.
- Double post (I copy the content of the 2nd post in the first one then I delete the 2nd post).
- To delete a hidden ref, but the rest of the post is useful and not worth deleting.
- Etc...

In any case, I try to put the reason why I edited a post, and I also put a link to the archive of the original post to prove that I didn't change the content of the post.

There are no fixed guidelines. Basically I do not like to edit existing posts (if there were no rule violations).
But if then I add a "//edit:" below with the reason. Then all users know about it and there are no misunderstandings

Editing images to the point of making charts unreadable is an overkill. He added links to imgur but just having the properly sized image inside the post would make it easier for everyone and wouldn't require to go to an ad-ridden third party site that may or may not work over tor/vpn/etc.

Readable original: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5484/54840233.html
Unredable edit: https://loyce.club/archive/details/2020-07-24_Fri_15.32h/54840233.html

Resizing is ok for photos and memes and other crap that looks fine at 200x200px. I don't think it works well for screenshots and charts.

So far I have been years into this forum I didn't know that there's a kind of moderation feature like this, yes I know the moderator usually do but editing post and reply is rarely I'd known.

Almost all replies have been edited too aside from mikeywith and minefarmbuy are unedited.

I tend to agree and exactly, smaller images that the text content didn't readable are useless.

If so, despite of this we respect this heavy moderation.

Just so you know, some boards have very strict moderators and one of those boards is the mining boards. Anything less of what is required there will either be deleted or edited.

Maybe @frodocooper saw that your images were really not necessary since you also included link to the sources where you got the images from.
According to https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5484/54840233.html the images were still large by that board's standard and posted in away that would make the post of less interest to read and I would see why he tried to make them small. You could have tried to put them in one row, next to each other to make the OP readable without having to scroll through the images.

Same applied to the question you tried to ask him (it didn't concern mining, so he had to delete it) I think a PM would have been Okay.

Let's see:
https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5263569.html

The mining board is heavily moderated. That keeps the board clean, but it sometimes surprises users.
As for this:
I'm pretty sure your question about it was off-topic. Creating a topic in Meta (or asking the Mod by PM) is the right thing to do.

For what it's worth, I disagree with the Mod here. The unedited post has useful images, with readable text. The current smaller images require a click to read them. That's not an improvement.

Very easy.
You just click on the date of my post and you will see who edited post and at what time.
And he did this several times.
Also he deleted my question in same topic:
Yes.

Thank you.
I did write courtesy message in topic but he deleted it, and I don't want to disturb him in pm.
I would understand if I posted some gigantic images but this looks like some borderline bored man abuse.
It is hard to see pool names in my post even when you click on images

It's in the post time when you hover over it

I don't see a reason why @Frodocooper change the size of images? Generally, how did you know that @Frodocooper did this? There are more than one mod for that board.
thanks @stompix & @notblox1 It is the first time that I know of this feature.
Do mods have the right to edit topics.

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If someone is annoyed with the size of the images, he should use some userscripts^[1].


there is no reason make @mod edit any topic, either to delete it or keep it as it is.

[1] Improved images on the forum - Tampermonkey/Greasemonkey user script

Differs from moderator to moderator. Some will ignore reports of images being too large, but others will attempt to make the thread a little more readable if the image is too large. There's no strict rule of it due to it being pretty subjective, and therefore is the interpretation of the moderator reviewing it.

However, you can always give Frodocooper a courtesy message to see why its was edited.

frodocooper has edited the post. I think you had posted images which made the thread less attractive which is why frodocooper edited or someone reported may be. I think it's not a big deal.

Is there some strict rule in bitcointalk forum that I must post miniature images in my posts?

I posted two small size images for Bitcoin mining pools pie charts, but moderator staff frodocooper keeps editing my posts and deleted my question about that?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-mining-pool-distribution-monthly-reports-5263569

As you can see I did not post giant images so I see no reason for moderator to edit my post and reduce image site to 150 without explanation.