Topic: Mods: Keep your opinions to yourself (split from BS&T Home thread) - page 2. (Read 3349 times)
July 04, 2012, 10:06:49 AM
The only reason a moderator would deserve to be stripped of their title is if they were editing and deleting others' posts to support their position in a flamewar. In regards to psy, he doesn't even have mod capability in the board where the altercation took place, so this isn't even possible. In other words, please put your head back in online mode before responding.
July 04, 2012, 10:01:33 AM
Just wait until the outcome is clear, then demote the mods that were engaged heavily on the wrong side of a flamewar. An operator who fuels up a flamewar to help a scammer is unacceptable, so there will be a reckoning after the show.
The first thing I'll do after the game is demoting psy, probably using just a single quote. Enjoy your remaining time with the staff tag. I hope, though, that you will resign the position on your own and apologize, because it would suck if even an old moderator account were in on this.
Being a moderator does not mean one can get away with anything because "oh, this had nothing to do with my moderation role". There are enough users already who post with their head in offline mode.
The first thing I'll do after the game is demoting psy, probably using just a single quote. Enjoy your remaining time with the staff tag. I hope, though, that you will resign the position on your own and apologize, because it would suck if even an old moderator account were in on this.
Being a moderator does not mean one can get away with anything because "oh, this had nothing to do with my moderation role". There are enough users already who post with their head in offline mode.
What does the fact of me being a moderator has to do with me defending MY OWN beliefs?
I'm not collecting anyone elses money to invest in Pirate, I only have MY OWN money there.
I invite you to search for any post on my posting history where I talked as a Moderator and did a bad job at it.
Most likey you will not find any because I'm conscious enough to just delete spam posts and whitelist new members. Moderating discussions is not for me and wasn't the reason I accepted to be part of the staff and theymos was made well aware of that fact before promoting me, and I'm sure he can confirm it if you ask nicely.
You're as much of an asshole as Goat is.
Go fuck yourself. <<-- You can quote that.
Now I will quote theymos just for your reading pleasure:
I don't require moderators to pledge an oath of neutrality in all forum discussions. 
Moderators will not censor themselves. I'll express my opinions freely, and I expect other moderators (and other members) to do the same.
Moderators will not censor themselves. I'll express my opinions freely, and I expect other moderators (and other members) to do the same.If you're not happy with the way the forum is run you're free to leave, I think. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
July 04, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
Just wait until the outcome is clear, then demote the mods that were engaged heavily on the wrong side of a flamewar. An operator who fuels up a flamewar to help a scammer is unacceptable, so there will be a reckoning after the show.
The first thing I'll do after the game is demoting psy, probably using just a single quote. Enjoy your remaining time with the staff tag. I hope, though, that you will resign the position on your own and apologize, because it would suck if even an old moderator account were in on this.
Being a moderator does not mean one can get away with anything because "oh, this had nothing to do with my moderation role". There are enough users already who post with their head in offline mode.
The first thing I'll do after the game is demoting psy, probably using just a single quote. Enjoy your remaining time with the staff tag. I hope, though, that you will resign the position on your own and apologize, because it would suck if even an old moderator account were in on this.
Being a moderator does not mean one can get away with anything because "oh, this had nothing to do with my moderation role". There are enough users already who post with their head in offline mode.
July 04, 2012, 01:10:51 AM
I never had a real opinion on Pirate and company, but this sure is making me wonder why they are so intent on silencing dissenters.
Oh and by the way, go fuck yourself, I'm not gonna censor myself just because I'm a mod.
Oh and by the way, go fuck yourself, I'm not gonna censor myself just because I'm a mod.
July 03, 2012, 06:37:46 PM
imsaguy,
You are one of the loudest, rudest, most obnoxious and immature posters on this forum. I mean in general, irrespective of BTCST.
It's time to hit the button (the "lalala i can't hear you" button).
Bob.
You are one of the loudest, rudest, most obnoxious and immature posters on this forum. I mean in general, irrespective of BTCST.
It's time to hit the button (the "lalala i can't hear you" button).
Bob.
July 03, 2012, 06:19:09 PM
Labelling someone without proof based on a "feeling" is not how to operate. If you label him I hope he sues the owner of the forum for defamation which is dangerously close to what you are suggesting.
Innocent untill proven guilty is how civilised people operate.
Innocent untill proven guilty is how civilised people operate.
July 03, 2012, 03:20:23 PM
Why would you trust a forum status? What you need to do is use the Web of Trust and look back on the history of the member you are dealing with... If it looks sketchy don't use'em. If there is no reason not to trust him with the level of money involved then try it out..... No need to create a thread to spread some kind of bias-virus around the forums
July 03, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
I don't require moderators to pledge an oath of neutrality in all forum discussions. Moderators will not censor themselves. I'll express my opinions freely, and I expect other moderators (and other members) to do the same.
+1, this is the way I would expect any moderator to act. Moderators will not censor themselves. I'll express my opinions freely, and I expect other moderators (and other members) to do the same. July 03, 2012, 02:40:49 PM
I don't require moderators to pledge an oath of neutrality in all forum discussions. Moderators will not censor themselves. I'll express my opinions freely, and I expect other moderators (and other members) to do the same.
Moderators will not censor themselves. I'll express my opinions freely, and I expect other moderators (and other members) to do the same. 
July 03, 2012, 02:20:59 PM
I haven't seen any Moderator speaking as a Moderator. So far I've only see normal, personal posts. Are you trying to say Moderators can't have an opinion and speak freely about the things they believe, or don't believe?
That wasn't what I was told when i accepted the job, or else I wouldn't have accepted it.
That wasn't what I was told when i accepted the job, or else I wouldn't have accepted it.
What I'm saying is that you should have a personal account that you use for personal opinions and statements and you have a business account that you use for business opinions and statements. I am not saying you aren't entitled to a personal opinion.
July 03, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
You're right, you should split these off and unclutter pirate's post a bit. I've done a decent job of trolling it.
Done. Rename it whatever you want. July 03, 2012, 02:10:46 PM
Lastly, there is some sort of Pirate fan club going on here, where everyone else is bashed in a sort of group thinking, or alternatively sarcastic "jokes" are spammed to hide/annoy any critics. Reminds me of May/June 2011.
I knew that something was familiar here, but I just couldn't put my finger on it. Thanks!This is an open request to Maged, Theymos and the rest of the mods..
If you truly believe Pirate to be a scammer, then label him as much. Show us the evidence just like you do with the other scammers. Otherwise, you're just being a hypocrite and we shouldn't trust you anymore.
No. It is almost impossible to get a scammer tag here unless you've actually completed a scam against someone. Pirate hasn't (yet).If you truly believe Pirate to be a scammer, then label him as much. Show us the evidence just like you do with the other scammers. Otherwise, you're just being a hypocrite and we shouldn't trust you anymore.
You don't need to trust me, but you should trust the tag. Scammer tags have to be approved by at least one trusted member and an administrator.
Having the moderators going around saying "I think this is bad" but not actually doing anything is a bunch of crap. Stand behind what you say or don't say it.
I haven't seen any Moderator speaking as a Moderator. So far I've only see normal, personal posts. Are you trying to say Moderators can't have an opinion and speak freely about the things they believe, or don't believe?
That wasn't what I was told when i accepted the job, or else I wouldn't have accepted it.
July 03, 2012, 02:09:52 PM
It is absolutely impossible for moderators to prove that this is a scam, only law enforcement could possibly do that. There is reason to have strong suspicions, but to apply the scammer tag on someone who could even remotely possibly be honest is wrong. Innocent until proven guilty.
There is no proof, only evidence.
There is no proof, only evidence.
Then make a suspected tag. If a moderator feels that strongly about someone that they have to say negative things about them, they should be doing something about it. Otherwise, they're just trolling like the other trolls.
I wasn't speaking as a moderator -- I was speaking as someone who doesn't like how big this has grown. I apologize if you were confused. If I was speaking as a moderator, you wouldn't publicly see my opinion on the matter until the case was decided one way or the other.
That's just it, unless you use another account, you don't get to speak as a normal user. Every one of your posts has your title by it. It's like Barrack Obama saying something as a person vs as President of the United States while out in public. He just doesn't have that luxury while he carries the title.
If you want to continue arguing about whether or not a mod should comment on something like this, bring it to Meta. Also, if you're going to complain about someone on the staff commenting on such matters, please also complain about Psy. As least his post was reported.
You're right, you should split these off and unclutter pirate's post a bit. I've done a decent job of trolling it.
July 03, 2012, 02:03:55 PM
It is absolutely impossible for moderators to prove that this is a scam, only law enforcement could possibly do that. There is reason to have strong suspicions, but to apply the scammer tag on someone who could even remotely possibly be honest is wrong. Innocent until proven guilty.
There is no proof, only evidence.
There is no proof, only evidence.
Then make a suspected tag. If a moderator feels that strongly about someone that they have to say negative things about them, they should be doing something about it. Otherwise, they're just trolling like the other trolls.
I wasn't speaking as a moderator -- I was speaking as someone who doesn't like how big this has grown. I apologize if you were confused. If I was speaking as a moderator, you wouldn't publicly see my opinion on the matter until the case was decided one way or the other.
That's just it, unless you use another account, you don't get to speak as a normal user. Every one of your posts has your title by it. It's like Barrack Obama saying something as a person vs as President of the United States while out in public. He just doesn't have that luxury while he carries the title.
If you want to continue arguing about whether or not a mod should comment on something like this, bring it to Meta. Also, if you're going to complain about someone on the staff commenting on such matters, please also complain about Psy. As least his post was reported.
July 03, 2012, 01:50:40 PM
I wasn't speaking as a moderator -- I was speaking as someone who doesn't like how big this has grown. I apologize if you were confused. If I was speaking as a moderator, you wouldn't publicly see my opinion on the matter until the case was decided one way or the other.
That's just it, unless you use another account, you don't get to speak as a normal user. Every one of your posts has your title by it. It's like Barrack Obama saying something as a person vs as President of the United States while out in public. He just doesn't have that luxury while he carries the title.
July 03, 2012, 01:49:19 PM
Having the moderators going around saying "I think this is bad" but not actually doing anything is a bunch of crap. Stand behind what you say or don't say it.
Why would you be saying that?The only thing I can think of is that after Pirate gets a scammer tag, it could lower the number of deposits, and put the interests rates back up... right?
More like I don't like character assassination.
July 03, 2012, 01:48:54 PM
It is absolutely impossible for moderators to prove that this is a scam, only law enforcement could possibly do that. There is reason to have strong suspicions, but to apply the scammer tag on someone who could even remotely possibly be honest is wrong. Innocent until proven guilty.
There is no proof, only evidence.
There is no proof, only evidence.
Then make a suspected tag. If a moderator feels that strongly about someone that they have to say negative things about them, they should be doing something about it. Otherwise, they're just trolling like the other trolls.
July 03, 2012, 01:46:55 PM
Lastly, there is some sort of Pirate fan club going on here, where everyone else is bashed in a sort of group thinking, or alternatively sarcastic "jokes" are spammed to hide/annoy any critics. Reminds me of May/June 2011.
I knew that something was familiar here, but I just couldn't put my finger on it. Thanks!This is an open request to Maged, Theymos and the rest of the mods..
If you truly believe Pirate to be a scammer, then label him as much. Show us the evidence just like you do with the other scammers. Otherwise, you're just being a hypocrite and we shouldn't trust you anymore.
No. It is almost impossible to get a scammer tag here unless you've actually completed a scam against someone. Pirate hasn't (yet).If you truly believe Pirate to be a scammer, then label him as much. Show us the evidence just like you do with the other scammers. Otherwise, you're just being a hypocrite and we shouldn't trust you anymore.
You don't need to trust me, but you should trust the tag. Scammer tags have to be approved by at least one trusted member and an administrator.
Having the moderators going around saying "I think this is bad" but not actually doing anything is a bunch of crap. Stand behind what you say or don't say it.
July 03, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
It is absolutely impossible for moderators to prove that this is a scam, only law enforcement could possibly do that. There is reason to have strong suspicions, but to apply the scammer tag on someone who could even remotely possibly be honest is wrong. Innocent until proven guilty.
There is no proof, only evidence.
There is no proof, only evidence.
July 03, 2012, 01:46:35 PM
Having the moderators going around saying "I think this is bad" but not actually doing anything is a bunch of crap. Stand behind what you say or don't say it.
Why would you be saying that?The only thing I can think of is that after Pirate gets a scammer tag, it could lower the number of deposits, and put the interests rates back up... right?
More like I don't like character assassination.
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