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Bytecoin? LOL gimme a break dude
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Topic: Monero or Bytecoin? - page 7. (Read 15550 times)
I like both and will probably be investing 50:50 into both. There's no denying that Bytecoin was there first and its devs are more familiar with the code than Monero's devs can ever hope to be, because they, ahem... wrote it. But I also like how Monero is less shady and more transparent and is starting afresh with a more inclusive community whereas Bytecoin has most of its coins mined and held by the early adopters in the deep web community that we don't know anything about. It could just be a small handful of people controlling 80 percent of the coin supply. This to me is the biggest reason why I'm not going 100 percent with Bytecoin because it means that everyone else is pretty much fighting over the twenty percent of the mineable coins that are still remaining plus if only a couple of the darknet whales decided to dump their coins, the value would surely drop.
For the heads up, Satoshi Nakamoto had many many flaws in Bitcoins code in the early days, it was Gavin who helped him make Bitcoin what it is today.
So actually, Gavin knows much more about Bitcoin than Satoshi does....
The same applies for Monero/Byte. The bytecoin devs didnt even have a proper cpu miner for the coin and their database was Fucked up. Monero devs cleaned it all up and the Bytecoin devs applied the updates to their own coin....
I wouldn't be surprised if 1 person owns 40% or more of all Bytecoin's in existence...since 80%+ was premined by a few individuals, which truthfully is more fucked up than's NXT's distribution..
Ignore DARKOTA he is a paid shill for DRK and NXT. His posts should be ignored. Look at his post history, pump and dump scam artist.
he is pretty stupid as well, seems like he know Satoshi too
Ignore his FUD
That's the only thing he is able to do is FUDing BCN as well as XMR fans with no arguments at all.
Whether it was an actual "premine" or not, 80% in the hands of few isn't exactly comforting. but I'm sure by now a good portion of XMR is owned by a select few people as well (probably not on as large a scale as BCN though...)
I get more profit from mining bytecoin, however, so be all means, pump the price.
I get more profit from mining bytecoin, however, so be all means, pump the price.
I think in the battle between Monero and Bytecoin, the Bytecoin has advantage thanks to developers, because I saw how they used exactly the same codes (that were introduced in Bytecoin earlier). It describes them as masters of copy-paste. I consider this to be unacceptable and inappropriate
So many genius noobs. That's when you know the Shibes have finally moved on from DRK to Monero. Hype machine part 3! ByteCoin + duckNote > Monero IMO (pussies) 
Thanks for informing us. You convinced me to switch from Monero to ByteCoin + duckNote! I feel already much better now.I'm not here to convince anyone. Don't be so serious!
Monero = 0% Premine
ByteCoin = 80% Premine
which coin you choose is of course your desicion.
ByteCoin = 80% Premine
which coin you choose is of course your desicion.
sums it up pretty good
If you like premine coins go with bytecoin else monero
So many genius noobs. That's when you know the Shibes have finally moved on from DRK to Monero. Hype machine part 3! ByteCoin + duckNote > Monero IMO (pussies)
Thanks for informing us. You convinced me to switch from Monero to ByteCoin + duckNote! I feel already much better now.+1
So many genius noobs. That's when you know the Shibes have finally moved on from DRK to Monero. Hype machine part 3! ByteCoin + duckNote > Monero IMO (pussies)
Thanks for informing us. You convinced me to switch from Monero to ByteCoin + duckNote! I feel already much better now.
So many genius noobs. That's when you know the Shibes have finally moved on from DRK to Monero. Hype machine part 3! ByteCoin + duckNote > Monero IMO (pussies)
I like both and will probably be investing 50:50 into both. There's no denying that Bytecoin was there first and its devs are more familiar with the code than Monero's devs can ever hope to be, because they, ahem... wrote it. But I also like how Monero is less shady and more transparent and is starting afresh with a more inclusive community whereas Bytecoin has most of its coins mined and held by the early adopters in the deep web community that we don't know anything about. It could just be a small handful of people controlling 80 percent of the coin supply. This to me is the biggest reason why I'm not going 100 percent with Bytecoin because it means that everyone else is pretty much fighting over the twenty percent of the mineable coins that are still remaining plus if only a couple of the darknet whales decided to dump their coins, the value would surely drop.
For the heads up, Satoshi Nakamoto had many many flaws in Bitcoins code in the early days, it was Gavin who helped him make Bitcoin what it is today.
So actually, Gavin knows much more about Bitcoin than Satoshi does....
The same applies for Monero/Byte. The bytecoin devs didnt even have a proper cpu miner for the coin and their database was Fucked up. Monero devs cleaned it all up and the Bytecoin devs applied the updates to their own coin....
I wouldn't be surprised if 1 person owns 40% or more of all Bytecoin's in existence...since 80%+ was premined by a few individuals, which truthfully is more fucked up than's NXT's distribution..
Ignore DARKOTA he is a paid shill for DRK and NXT. His posts should be ignored. Look at his post history, pump and dump scam artist.
he is pretty stupid as well, seems like he know Satoshi too
Ignore his FUD
I like both and will probably be investing 50:50 into both. There's no denying that Bytecoin was there first and its devs are more familiar with the code than Monero's devs can ever hope to be, because they, ahem... wrote it. But I also like how Monero is less shady and more transparent and is starting afresh with a more inclusive community whereas Bytecoin has most of its coins mined and held by the early adopters in the deep web community that we don't know anything about. It could just be a small handful of people controlling 80 percent of the coin supply. This to me is the biggest reason why I'm not going 100 percent with Bytecoin because it means that everyone else is pretty much fighting over the twenty percent of the mineable coins that are still remaining plus if only a couple of the darknet whales decided to dump their coins, the value would surely drop.
For the heads up, Satoshi Nakamoto had many many flaws in Bitcoins code in the early days, it was Gavin who helped him make Bitcoin what it is today.
So actually, Gavin knows much more about Bitcoin than Satoshi does....
The same applies for Monero/Byte. The bytecoin devs didnt even have a proper cpu miner for the coin and their database was Fucked up. Monero devs cleaned it all up and the Bytecoin devs applied the updates to their own coin....
I wouldn't be surprised if 1 person owns 40% or more of all Bytecoin's in existence...since 80%+ was premined by a few individuals, which truthfully is more fucked up than's NXT's distribution..
I like both and will probably be investing 50:50 into both. There's no denying that Bytecoin was there first and its devs are more familiar with the code than Monero's devs can ever hope to be, because they, ahem... wrote it. But I also like how Monero is less shady and more transparent and is starting afresh with a more inclusive community whereas Bytecoin has most of its coins mined and held by the early adopters in the deep web community that we don't know anything about. It could just be a small handful of people controlling 80 percent of the coin supply. This to me is the biggest reason why I'm not going 100 percent with Bytecoin because it means that everyone else is pretty much fighting over the twenty percent of the mineable coins that are still remaining plus if only a couple of the darknet whales decided to dump their coins, the value would surely drop.
bytecoin because the developers have better understanding of the code than the monero devs because it was written by them.
Prime example: The recent update to lower RAM usage.
People that tell you to invest in monero is because they have invested in monero and would benefit more if you did the same.
Prime example: The recent update to lower RAM usage.
People that tell you to invest in monero is because they have invested in monero and would benefit more if you did the same.
All Bytecoin did was add in swapping to disk (check the github commit).
Here's the thing: your operating system already pages old data to disk to free up RAM, so they're literally doing what the OS does extremely fucking well but manually and poorly. There's no doubt that Monero will provide a solution that has substantially greater longevity and doesn't just re-do what is already done.
The Monero team also has an ongoing whitepaper annotation project, as the CryptoNote whitepaper and the Bytecoin code has not been peer reviewed by mathematicians and cryptographers. Do you know about that? They even publish their annotations as they progress: http://monero.cc/downloads/whitepaper_annotated.pdf
I would be careful about deluding oneself into believing that the people behind a bad attempt at hiding a premine will give anything long-term value.
@darkota - if you self moderate your thread - WHY IS LITECOIN DEAD as you keep doing i will post my replies in the threads you read:
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Quote from: darkota on Today at 02:13:55 AM
Quote from: Saigonsmokes on Today at 02:07:35 AM
What does bitcoin offer over LTC?
Acceptance by tens of thousands of stores, including Expedia, TigerDirect, Overstock, etc etc.
Litecoin, on the other hand, is not accepted at any official stores, not one. It's just another alt coin.
Whats up with DRK dump today?
Did all those stores accept Bitcoin 6 months ago?
Patrick Byrne, CEO of Overstock is a big Crypto fan - he has already said he will accept Litecoin when they can.
http://thecoinfront.com/overstock-boss-hints-at-litecoin-adoption/
So if thats all Bitcoin has over Litecoin, I wont worry to much Wink
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1. Where can I buy $20k worth or DRK or NXT right now using USD or GBP.
2. Where can I spend these DRK and NXT?
bytecoin because the developers have better understanding of the code than the monero devs because it was written by them.
Prime example: The recent update to lower RAM usage.
People that tell you to invest in monero is because they have invested in monero and would benefit more if you did the same.
Prime example: The recent update to lower RAM usage.
People that tell you to invest in monero is because they have invested in monero and would benefit more if you did the same.
The blockchain is proof.
as explained its not...
its like a screenhot that can be photoshoped
Really, make a coin yourself, come back to me, I'll check the code. Then you try and fake the blockchain. You're just making up lies now my friend..
Please do the above, make a coin yourself, and try to fake the blockchain, lordoliver. I know you're not going to bother, since it's impossible....But it'd be funny to see you try.
I don't want to do that. Because it costs a lot of effort. so why should i do it?
But you still didn't explain, why it is not possible.
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just take maybe 2 or 3 Months and rent a bunch of Computers. You set the times of all computers 1 1/2 years earlier and start a changing algorithm that smoothy fakes longer time frames. voilà...
Why can't you change the system time while the demon is running? Isn't the demon using it? And even if not a good programmer can surely change that in his version...
As I said again earlier, There's no point in trying to make up bullshit excuses. The point is, the bytecoin's blockchain says the first coin was mined in 2012, and over 80% of it's coin supply have been mined by only a few addresses. You cannot deny that. It also wouldn't make any sense for them to "try and change" the blockchain date to 2 years earlier....Think before you type.
Monero investor detected
No, the only coin I hold is Bitcoin. I just fight for the best coins, with the most potential. Read my post history and you'll see..
Your posts are meaningless. You are someone who self moderates threads with titles such as LITECOIN IS. DEAD - you delete posts that support Litecoin. Therefore you have an agenda, you are deceitful and as such your posts should not be trusted. You delete posts that show any negativity towards the coins you support, you delete posts that show support to other coins you do not support. You are a joke and the community should deem you as deceitful and untrustworthy.
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OP why did you delete this? What are you trying to hide?
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Look at DRK: 1483.11BTC traded
LTC - LTC - 30734.92BTC
BTC - 203646.4BTC
NXT - 516BTC ::)BTC
The blockchain is proof.
as explained its not...
its like a screenhot that can be photoshoped
Really, make a coin yourself, come back to me, I'll check the code. Then you try and fake the blockchain. You're just making up lies now my friend..
Please do the above, make a coin yourself, and try to fake the blockchain, lordoliver. I know you're not going to bother, since it's impossible....But it'd be funny to see you try.
I don't want to do that. Because it costs a lot of effort. so why should i do it?
But you still didn't explain, why it is not possible.
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just take maybe 2 or 3 Months and rent a bunch of Computers. You set the times of all computers 1 1/2 years earlier and start a changing algorithm that smoothy fakes longer time frames. voilà...
Why can't you change the system time while the demon is running? Isn't the demon using it? And even if not a good programmer can surely change that in his version...
As I said again earlier, There's no point in trying to make up bullshit excuses. The point is, the bytecoin's blockchain says the first coin was mined in 2012, and over 80% of it's coin supply have been mined by only a few addresses. You cannot deny that. It also wouldn't make any sense for them to "try and change" the blockchain date to 2 years earlier....Think before you type.
You just pump and dump son. Pump all the crap coins that you promote, delete all posts you disagree with. Litecoin is number 2, will be for many years. The coins you promote will crash and burn, stop promoting them. Litecoin is where it is at, why do you fear Litecoin? Why do you delete posts promoting Litecoin, what do you fear! People know BTC and LTC are the only 2 that will succeed stop your FUD.
The blockchain is proof.
as explained its not...
its like a screenhot that can be photoshoped
Really, make a coin yourself, come back to me, I'll check the code. Then you try and fake the blockchain. You're just making up lies now my friend..
Please do the above, make a coin yourself, and try to fake the blockchain, lordoliver. I know you're not going to bother, since it's impossible....But it'd be funny to see you try.
I don't want to do that. Because it costs a lot of effort. so why should i do it?
But you still didn't explain, why it is not possible.
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just take maybe 2 or 3 Months and rent a bunch of Computers. You set the times of all computers 1 1/2 years earlier and start a changing algorithm that smoothy fakes longer time frames. voilà...
Why can't you change the system time while the demon is running? Isn't the demon using it? And even if not a good programmer can surely change that in his version...
As I said again earlier, There's no point in trying to make up bullshit excuses. The point is, the bytecoin's blockchain says the first coin was mined in 2012, and over 80% of it's coin supply have been mined by only a few addresses. You cannot deny that. It also wouldn't make any sense for them to "try and change" the blockchain date to 2 years earlier....Think before you type.
Monero investor detected
No, the only coin I hold is Bitcoin. I just fight for the best coins, with the most potential. Read my post history and you'll see..
YOU ARE A JOKE..
Ignore the poster above he starts threads and deletes comments that he does not agree with. he is a typical loser pumping all the crap coins he has, he is pathetic everyone laughing at him.
What a joke you are, scam coins all the way with this loser.
The blockchain is proof.
as explained its not...
its like a screenhot that can be photoshoped
Really, make a coin yourself, come back to me, I'll check the code. Then you try and fake the blockchain. You're just making up lies now my friend..
Please do the above, make a coin yourself, and try to fake the blockchain, lordoliver. I know you're not going to bother, since it's impossible....But it'd be funny to see you try.
I don't want to do that. Because it costs a lot of effort. so why should i do it?
But you still didn't explain, why it is not possible.
Quote
just take maybe 2 or 3 Months and rent a bunch of Computers. You set the times of all computers 1 1/2 years earlier and start a changing algorithm that smoothy fakes longer time frames. voilà...
Why can't you change the system time while the demon is running? Isn't the demon using it? And even if not a good programmer can surely change that in his version...
As I said again earlier, There's no point in trying to make up bullshit excuses. The point is, the bytecoin's blockchain says the first coin was mined in 2012, and over 80% of it's coin supply have been mined by only a few addresses. You cannot deny that. It also wouldn't make any sense for them to "try and change" the blockchain date to 2 years earlier....Think before you type.
Monero investor detected
No, the only coin I hold is Bitcoin. I just fight for the best coins, with the most potential. Read my post history and you'll see..
The blockchain is proof.
as explained its not...
its like a screenhot that can be photoshoped
Really, make a coin yourself, come back to me, I'll check the code. Then you try and fake the blockchain. You're just making up lies now my friend..
Please do the above, make a coin yourself, and try to fake the blockchain, lordoliver. I know you're not going to bother, since it's impossible....But it'd be funny to see you try.
I don't want to do that. Because it costs a lot of effort. so why should i do it?
But you still didn't explain, why it is not possible.
Quote
just take maybe 2 or 3 Months and rent a bunch of Computers. You set the times of all computers 1 1/2 years earlier and start a changing algorithm that smoothy fakes longer time frames. voilà...
Why can't you change the system time while the demon is running? Isn't the demon using it? And even if not a good programmer can surely change that in his version...
As I said again earlier, There's no point in trying to make up bullshit excuses. The point is, the bytecoin's blockchain says the first coin was mined in 2012, and over 80% of it's coin supply have been mined by only a few addresses. You cannot deny that. It also wouldn't make any sense for them to "try and change" the blockchain date to 2 years earlier....Think before you type.
Monero investor detected
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