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May 07, 2017, 07:01:14 AM
LOL i have seen you shill's say that on & off a few times.. but it's another LIE.
You guys have been saying it or at least implying or inferring it heavily since day one.
And tell me what good is a bloody ANON Altcoin that the dev later admits is only 80% secure'ish ?.

Monero is one of the very few crypto currencies that are actually able to be used for the only currency niche of crypto: "where fiat cannot go".  Of course, that's essentially illegal, or non-legal, otherwise, there's a better fiat alternative available.

Now, if you want to do illegal or non-legal things, then you better use a tool that gives you SOME protection, and doesn't give you away right away and openly.  This is why transparent crypto like bitcoin is a joke as a currency, even though most people using crypto for its niche application, dark markets, are still stupid enough to use bitcoin.  One day, they will severely regret.
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Even more stupid thing is to stay in jurisdiction that is banning you from doing things you want to do. Changing jurisdiction solves most of such problems. Problem is biggest countries are also often biggest oppressors of invidual freedom but as long as world is divided, isn't one global country people always can vote with their feet.

Still human ability to think,  solve problems and find someone else's solutions is great. Just most of ppl aren't looking... 

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That said, "currency usage" is most of the time not what crypto is about.  Crypto is about playing greater fool games and about playing something that banks were/are playing with when they gamble on complex derivatives: purely speculative assets.  It is 90% or 99% of the usage of crypto.  Its currency aspect is essentially almost negligible.
And you are perfectly right that for speculating and gambling, you don't need anon tech.  You don't even need a working block chain, but it helps in drawing idiots in.  As we can see with bitcoin whose block chain isn't really working well any more, that doesn't matter much.

Derivatives might implode. Bitcoin doesn't. It's just still more like a stock or commodity than currency. But new cyrptocurrencies are going to change this. Ethereum added wholly new quality (while lacking some fundamental advantages of bitcoin). New players are comming to transform the way we look at bitcoin. Monero for now wins in it's category but you seem to not see that there are many not used yet categories (HEAT microtransactions, Veritas in decetralised finance, stocks etc). So your 90% will be decreasing in time with new utilities of bitcoin tech.


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May 07, 2017, 05:43:22 AM
LOL i have seen you shill's say that on & off a few times.. but it's another LIE.
You guys have been saying it or at least implying or inferring it heavily since day one.
And tell me what good is a bloody ANON Altcoin that the dev later admits is only 80% secure'ish ?.

Monero is one of the very few crypto currencies that are actually able to be used for the only currency niche of crypto: "where fiat cannot go".  Of course, that's essentially illegal, or non-legal, otherwise, there's a better fiat alternative available.

Now, if you want to do illegal or non-legal things, then you better use a tool that gives you SOME protection, and doesn't give you away right away and openly.  This is why transparent crypto like bitcoin is a joke as a currency, even though most people using crypto for its niche application, dark markets, are still stupid enough to use bitcoin.  One day, they will severely regret.

But of course, when you do illegal things, there's always a danger, and no tool is perfect.  But it is still better to use a tool with *some* protection, than with no protection at all, I would think.  It's not because you carry a gun and hand gloves when you go murdering, that you have the guarantee you will win against law enforcement, but at least, you have *something*.  As this is the only kind of stuff where crypto can be used sensibly as a currency, I would say that monero is doing well.

That said, "currency usage" is most of the time not what crypto is about.  Crypto is about playing greater fool games and about playing something that banks were/are playing with when they gamble on complex derivatives: purely speculative assets.  It is 90% or 99% of the usage of crypto.  Its currency aspect is essentially almost negligible. 

And you are perfectly right that for speculating and gambling, you don't need anon tech.  You don't even need a working block chain, but it helps in drawing idiots in.  As we can see with bitcoin whose block chain isn't really working well any more, that doesn't matter much.

legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
May 06, 2017, 08:23:29 PM
Ever heard of Windows Update ?
Now with Monero if there is ONE single hack you are potentially compromised.
Being a Dark Market user could mean jail time.
Let that sink in..
While that is true, I'd like to remind everyone that Monero itself is legal and shouldn't get you into any trouble. Darknet markets, however, are another story and should be avoided.
... spoetnik ranting...

Oh and since this topic it was revealed that Monero is not 100% secure.

I TOLD YOU SO.

noone ever said monero was 100% secure. But anyway, here's a rebuttal to that paper:

https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-linkability.html

best regards,


LOL i have seen you shill's say that on & off a few times.. but it's another LIE.
You guys have been saying it or at least implying or inferring it heavily since day one.
And tell me what good is a bloody ANON Altcoin that the dev later admits is only 80% secure'ish ?

Gimme bloody break Investards.  Roll Eyes

I see the same retorts posted over & over for years.
Come up with new material kidiots.. you bore me.
newbie
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May 06, 2017, 01:57:24 PM
Typical article try to make private people look like crooks and "nefarious" and into kiddie porn.
sr. member
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May 06, 2017, 10:58:38 AM
Ever heard of Windows Update ?
Now with Monero if there is ONE single hack you are potentially compromised.
Being a Dark Market user could mean jail time.
Let that sink in..
While that is true, I'd like to remind everyone that Monero itself is legal and shouldn't get you into any trouble. Darknet markets, however, are another story and should be avoided.
... spoetnik ranting...

Oh and since this topic it was revealed that Monero is not 100% secure.

I TOLD YOU SO.

noone ever said monero was 100% secure. But anyway, here's a rebuttal to that paper:

https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-linkability.html

best regards,
legendary
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Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
May 06, 2017, 10:16:54 AM
Ever heard of Windows Update ?
Now with Monero if there is ONE single hack you are potentially compromised.
Being a Dark Market user could mean jail time.
Let that sink in..
While that is true, I'd like to remind everyone that Monero itself is legal and shouldn't get you into any trouble. Darknet markets, however, are another story and should be avoided.

Monero is no more legal than DM markets.
They exist in a grey areas of no law ..created yet.
Pretty much all of crypto is like that.

The fringe activities that encroach on existing laws is the problem.
Hence why Ripple had their ass torn wide way back by FiNCEN.

Guys have not been arrested for participating in a dark market.
They have been popped by shipping Fentanyl to users through snail mail after conducting sales on there etc etc..

As usual this place is a tornado of lies and bullshit.. all to spit shine your shitcoin bags.
Oh and since this topic it was revealed that Monero is not 100% secure.

I TOLD YOU SO.
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May 06, 2017, 09:42:48 AM


Spoetnik has been on a mad nonsensical rant about Monero for, what, 3 years now? It's getting a bit old and boring.

He's a paid fudder, the darktard dashtards have been paying Spoetnik to attack Monero. it's pretty much his only source of income besides the government assistance cheques

Don't forget his side job of being the guy behind the gloryhole.
sr. member
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April 17, 2017, 02:25:56 PM
they cant crack BTC and even more Monero.

Thousand of stolen Documents expose how FBI, CIA and NSA working, what they able to do and where they fail....

How many bloody times do i have to tell you idiots here it's doesn't matter ?
What part of it don't you get ?

What matters is the RESULT ..not the method.

If you do not understand that ..then you do not understand security.
And you should probably refrain from handing out security advice on the internet to people.

You know you all will have perfect memory if there was a trade secret to be had.
As soon as it comes to defending some shitcoin you get amnesia and have to be told over & over.

You don't grasp that the ease of hacking a target is irrelevant.
Monero does not need to be hacked a LOT on regular basis.. just once !

PS:
OMG DASH IS SOOO GREAT OMG OMG OH MY GOD BUY DASH !!!!!!1111ONE

Reality applies to ALL coins equally people.
You know nothing Jon Snow
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April 17, 2017, 02:20:11 PM


Spoetnik has been on a mad nonsensical rant about Monero for, what, 3 years now? It's getting a bit old and boring.

He's a paid fudder, the darktard dashtards have been paying Spoetnik to attack Monero. it's pretty much his only source of income besides the government assistance cheques
newbie
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April 17, 2017, 02:03:47 PM
It is better to stay away from darknet coins because they only can make you problems because they are dark what means for dark market and you are suspicious then only if you use that coin.
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March 30, 2017, 10:18:42 AM
You don't grasp that the ease of hacking a target is irrelevant.
Monero does not need to be hacked a LOT on regular basis.. just once !

"Hacking a cryptosystem" is not the same as "hacking a computer".  I don't know what you imagine by "hacking monero once" ; but if you apply whatever you imagine to bitcoin, then all of bitcoin's secrets keys are compromised too.  Because "you have to hack bitcoin only once".  


Not only Bitcoin. Basically say goodbye to the entire Internet if any number of cryptographic functions are "hacked only once".

Say goodbye to the entire planet if someone works out how to make the sun explode. It only has to happen once!

Spoetnik has been on a mad nonsensical rant about Monero for, what, 3 years now? It's getting a bit old and boring.
hero member
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March 24, 2017, 11:33:00 PM
You don't grasp that the ease of hacking a target is irrelevant.
Monero does not need to be hacked a LOT on regular basis.. just once !

"Hacking a cryptosystem" is not the same as "hacking a computer".  I don't know what you imagine by "hacking monero once" ; but if you apply whatever you imagine to bitcoin, then all of bitcoin's secrets keys are compromised too.  Because "you have to hack bitcoin only once". 
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
March 24, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
they cant crack BTC and even more Monero.

Thousand of stolen Documents expose how FBI, CIA and NSA working, what they able to do and where they fail....

How many bloody times do i have to tell you idiots here it's doesn't matter ?
What part of it don't you get ?

What matters is the RESULT ..not the method.

If you do not understand that ..then you do not understand security.
And you should probably refrain from handing out security advice on the internet to people.

You know you all will have perfect memory if there was a trade secret to be had.
As soon as it comes to defending some shitcoin you get amnesia and have to be told over & over.

You don't grasp that the ease of hacking a target is irrelevant.
Monero does not need to be hacked a LOT on regular basis.. just once !

PS:
OMG DASH IS SOOO GREAT OMG OMG OH MY GOD BUY DASH !!!!!!1111ONE

Reality applies to ALL coins equally people.
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 261
March 24, 2017, 05:46:51 PM
they cant crack BTC and even more Monero.

Thousand of stolen Documents expose how FBI, CIA and NSA working, what they able to do and where they fail....
sr. member
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Merit: 250
March 24, 2017, 03:29:15 PM
Hey dumb fucks ? See me talking up Dash ?
No ? So why the fuck am i accused of shilling for it then ?
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh i get it ...

because i criticized Monero ....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh now i see.

Yup you fuckheads are simply BRILLIANT little geniuses.
Oh and unlike the rest of you scrounging greedy little back stabbing two faced manipulative whiny little weazle profiteer rats...
I HAVE ONE FUCKING ACCOUNT.
Translation: i have far more cred here than you EVER will.

And my inner lawyer says your god damn full of shit Nathan.
"asset" my god damn ass.
Spare me the "penny stocks" retort faggotry.


You fuckers go from "coin" to penny stock pretty quick when it suits you huh ?

REALITY:
You are bullshiting pieces of shit spinning digital coin'z for profits.
You all just waffle around playing verbal gymnastics endlessly defending bad.
Bad is bad.
A hypocrite shit talker is a hypocrite shit talker.
A crime is a crime.
A lying sack of shit bitch bag holder is a lying sack of shit bag holder.
..in a pyramid scheme  Roll Eyes

Hey i am gonna make my own coin probably do 50% ICO and take my cut cause that's ok right ?
Then i will make it ANON so it deliberately violates ANTI MONEY LAUNDERING LAWS
then i will say.. it's legal.
So it will be true then.
Then......


PROFIT

PS:
Dash is so great liek holy shit omg bbq dash dahs dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash

I only asked because I have never seen you come out and say you do not hold dash, even though there were countless people saying you probably do (not just because you criticized monero).  Even though there is plenty to criticize dash with, I haven't seen anything from you...
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
March 24, 2017, 10:18:33 AM
Hey dumb fucks ? See me talking up Dash ?
No ? So why the fuck am i accused of shilling for it then ?
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh i get it ...

because i criticized Monero ....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh now i see.

Yup you fuckheads are simply BRILLIANT little geniuses.
Oh and unlike the rest of you scrounging greedy little back stabbing two faced manipulative whiny little weazle profiteer rats...
I HAVE ONE FUCKING ACCOUNT.
Translation: i have far more cred here than you EVER will.

And my inner lawyer says your god damn full of shit Nathan.
"asset" my god damn ass.
Spare me the "penny stocks" retort faggotry.


You fuckers go from "coin" to penny stock pretty quick when it suits you huh ?

REALITY:
You are bullshiting pieces of shit spinning digital coin'z for profits.
You all just waffle around playing verbal gymnastics endlessly defending bad.
Bad is bad.
A hypocrite shit talker is a hypocrite shit talker.
A crime is a crime.
A lying sack of shit bitch bag holder is a lying sack of shit bag holder.
..in a pyramid scheme  Roll Eyes

Hey i am gonna make my own coin probably do 50% ICO and take my cut cause that's ok right ?
Then i will make it ANON so it deliberately violates ANTI MONEY LAUNDERING LAWS
then i will say.. it's legal.
So it will be true then.
Then......


PROFIT

PS:
Dash is so great liek holy shit omg bbq dash dahs dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash
sr. member
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March 24, 2017, 09:58:41 AM
WOW what a train load of retarded bullshit from hell.
I have addressed every one of you little comeback retorts a million times.

I swear Monero is for Morons.

PS:

Custom API, so I don't think this affects anyone else. We've disabled betting in the meantime whilst we sort this out, but I really think the lesson to other operators is not to be overconfident in your code or in your setup. Everything can and will be compromised, so assume it's going to happen and put safeguards in place to handle that eventual scenario.

What does that mean mouthy blow-hard Morono shill's ?
Oh it's "FUD" ?
Hmm WOW seems fluffypony FUD's his own coin.. who knew ? LOL  Cheesy

Fucking up ? NO not the Monero idiots LOL

- Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread

- [NEWS] Monero David Latapie French Police Fraud [updated]

- Monero dice seed hacked?

What do those 3 incidents of drama have in common ?

SOOOOOORRY

PPS:

How the fuck can Monero be "legal" if it violates AML laws ?
I swear this gay shitcoin attracts the dumbest little chucklefuck's on the web.  Roll Eyes

@Dino
AGAIN you fail miserably.
Go reread what i was saying here earlier (and all over this forum for years about Monero security)
Your reading comprehension skill are fucking horrendous.

Spoetnik, are you really a Dashtard though?  Seriously??
sr. member
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March 24, 2017, 09:39:17 AM
How the fuck can Monero be "legal" if it violates AML laws ?
If my inner lawyer is correct, Monero (and all other cryptocurrencies) are "assets" not "money" and thus exempt from laws regarding online money and banks.
legendary
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Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
March 23, 2017, 05:02:44 PM
WOW what a train load of retarded bullshit from hell.
I have addressed every one of you little comeback retorts a million times.

I swear Monero is for Morons.

PS:

Custom API, so I don't think this affects anyone else. We've disabled betting in the meantime whilst we sort this out, but I really think the lesson to other operators is not to be overconfident in your code or in your setup. Everything can and will be compromised, so assume it's going to happen and put safeguards in place to handle that eventual scenario.

What does that mean mouthy blow-hard Morono shill's ?
Oh it's "FUD" ?
Hmm WOW seems fluffypony FUD's his own coin.. who knew ? LOL  Cheesy

Fucking up ? NO not the Monero idiots LOL

- Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread

- [NEWS] Monero David Latapie French Police Fraud [updated]

- Monero dice seed hacked?

What do those 3 incidents of drama have in common ?

SOOOOOORRY

PPS:

How the fuck can Monero be "legal" if it violates AML laws ?
I swear this gay shitcoin attracts the dumbest little chucklefuck's on the web.  Roll Eyes

@Dino
AGAIN you fail miserably.
Go reread what i was saying here earlier (and all over this forum for years about Monero security)
Your reading comprehension skills are fucking horrendous.
legendary
Activity: 2548
Merit: 1245
March 23, 2017, 03:16:21 PM
if i could get a dash everytime someone misspelled my name, i would have a lot more masternodes Roll Eyes
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