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January 01, 2025, 07:02:15 AM
There are many gambling sites that are legal so there is no particular threat. There are some gambling sites in my country where only people inside the country can gamble. Moreover, they have special anti-money laundering policy. If a money laundering site is identified, the companies that favor money laundering should be shut down. But one of the main reasons for wagering requirements for deposits in casinos is to minimize the chances that the casino can be used for money laundering as much as possible. If a casino user uses the casino to launder money or mix their money and withdraw other forms of money from the casino.
Crypto casinos adheres to governments regulations and as long as they do this I don't think that they can have any problems in the regions that they operate. Governments and casinos are partners in progress to combat money laundering, I know that no reputable casinos will want to jeopardize their business intergrity by allowing money laundering activities to go through their sites. Any criminal that wants to launder money through a KYC crypto casinos will be doing so at their own risks, they will be traced and found. Casinos have mechanisms in place to checkmate gamblers through wagering requirements so I don't see how any reputable casino will worry about money laundering.
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January 01, 2025, 06:13:11 AM
There are many gambling sites that are legal so there is no particular threat. There are some gambling sites in my country where only people inside the country can gamble. Moreover, they have special anti-money laundering policy. If a money laundering site is identified, the companies that favor money laundering should be shut down. But one of the main reasons for wagering requirements for deposits in casinos is to minimize the chances that the casino can be used for money laundering as much as possible. If a casino user uses the casino to launder money or mix their money and withdraw other forms of money from the casino.
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January 01, 2025, 05:48:24 AM
I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

This is a very serious issue for all the gambling sites. This will be very challenging for the casinos, especially the ones that claim to be no-KYC casinos. I have seen many casinos have already started the adaptation. They have implemented wagering requirements if you just deposit money and do withdrawals. For now this rule is doing almost most of the jobs. The real legit users are sometimes facing problems due to this. As we sometimes use the casino’s wallet in case of emergency, now we are suffering with the wagering requirements.
There comes a time that every crypto casinos are already that KYC required and even into those known platforms that we do have today here on crypto space on which there are eventually platforms are really that starting to adopt or make out such changes on which this is really that indeed happening as of this moment. This is why it will be that up into a certain gambler whether they will really be complying out such changes or rules that will be applied into the platform and as a user then you dont have no choice but to comply on whats being asked. We do know that these companies will really be needing up to comply on whats being asked so that they will really be able to continue to operate, on the moment that they will be opposing such regulation the this will really be that become a problem on which they might not be able to operate. We do know that government will really be that doing up their very best on trying out to deal with those platforms that they can be able to tax out specially that deals up with crypto. We do know that revenues on where these businesses are making are indeed huge because if we do tend to consider and look out when it comes to taxes then this is something that government wont be letting it out to slip into their hands. We do really know that businesses will really be that sooner or later will be that regulated on which if they will oppose then they cant be able to operate as simple as that. There still some platforms that operate out without KYC but it wont be shocking that one day that every each of them will be going into this kind of path.
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December 31, 2024, 11:44:10 AM
I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

This is a very serious issue for all the gambling sites. This will be very challenging for the casinos, especially the ones that claim to be no-KYC casinos. I have seen many casinos have already started the adaptation. They have implemented wagering requirements if you just deposit money and do withdrawals. For now this rule is doing almost most of the jobs. The real legit users are sometimes facing problems due to this. As we sometimes use the casino’s wallet in case of emergency, now we are suffering with the wagering requirements.
legendary
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December 31, 2024, 11:29:48 AM
A casino is a profitable business so it needs a license to be considered legitimate by the government and a casino cannot be anonymous if it has a license, but this is pretty much the same way CEX works.
So the casino will keep a close eye on its users if caught then they will take action against the user.
The government cannot be blamed even if they themselves are laundering the money, and usually the government is unlikely to do so.
Y you're right, casinos that are already legal and licensed by the local government will have the authority to enforce KYC at a certain withdrawal rate, so this can prevent money laundering from happening because they will know who is trying to launder money.

That is, the ones that allowed the casino to be used as a money laundering tool were the ones that did not have wagering requirements, and usually did not have a license either. There are almost none of those left, and two examples we have in the forum would be freebitco.in and Lightlord casinos that do not give much confidence, so those who want to launder better look for other ways.
Yes there are hardly any such casinos left, in the sense that all casinos are now here licensed and this wagering requirement has become mandatory for all casinos so that there is no money laundering in the casino.

I heard the case of freebitco.in and Lightlord for a long time but did not pay attention so clearly, but it is very unfortunate that the casino that was built for many years had to destroy its reputation because of its own actions, let alone allegations of money laundering in other ways.
legendary
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December 31, 2024, 11:03:20 AM
The use of crypto casinos for money laundering is primarily based on the anonymity of transactions, the possibility of manipulating games, and the lack of regulation on some platforms.
This creates certain risks, but also leads to the development of security systems and fraud prevention methods in the industry.

Perhaps, reputable platforms will have strict regulations, so it will make it impossible for the person to launder money on the gambling platform. But maybe, those who bet and or have  a very large balance in the gambling platform without having high activity in betting, then it can be an act of money laundering. Well, I'm sure many gambling platforms have restrictions, so the effort is certainly to prevent money laundering which is indeed a concern in government law.

These days, most regulated/licensed casinos have AML policy, it means that casinos are aware that there is a chance for people to use casino as a mixer so they have AML policy to avoid such laundering attempt.
I keep wondering why this question arise, is there any good reason why people want to do money laundry in gambling platform while in fact it will be hard to do and it has a big risk?
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December 31, 2024, 10:35:11 AM
A casino is a profitable business so it needs a license to be considered legitimate by the government and a casino cannot be anonymous if it has a license, but this is pretty much the same way CEX works.
So the casino will keep a close eye on its users if caught then they will take action against the user.
The government cannot be blamed even if they themselves are laundering the money, and usually the government is unlikely to do so.
Y you're right, casinos that are already legal and licensed by the local government will have the authority to enforce KYC at a certain withdrawal rate, so this can prevent money laundering from happening because they will know who is trying to launder money.

That is, the ones that allowed the casino to be used as a money laundering tool were the ones that did not have wagering requirements, and usually did not have a license either. There are almost none of those left, and two examples we have in the forum would be freebitco.in and Lightlord casinos that do not give much confidence, so those who want to launder better look for other ways.

So, regarding what the OP asks, no, there does not seem to be any danger that many casinos are going to be seized, the most dangerous ones are those mentioned above and similar casinos, but it does not seem that the authorities, at least so far, have had them in their sights.

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December 31, 2024, 10:21:07 AM
The use of crypto casinos for money laundering is primarily based on the anonymity of transactions, the possibility of manipulating games, and the lack of regulation on some platforms.
This creates certain risks, but also leads to the development of security systems and fraud prevention methods in the industry.

Perhaps, reputable platforms will have strict regulations, so it will make it impossible for the person to launder money on the gambling platform. But maybe, those who bet and or have  a very large balance in the gambling platform without having high activity in betting, then it can be an act of money laundering. Well, I'm sure many gambling platforms have restrictions, so the effort is certainly to prevent money laundering which is indeed a concern in government law.
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December 31, 2024, 10:08:42 AM
I remember we had a case with bestchange and a guy who claimed that the exchange he has selected from bestchange, are holding his funds. The story has ended with a guy trying to use bestchange for money laundering. I believe that casinos have more advanced security and if exchange monitor managed to catch such guy, then casinos would do it quicker or more perfectly. That why I think money laundering through casinos is impossible, or casinos in collusion with launderers.

No, exchanges have more advanced systems since they are the most vulnerable to money laundering. In a casino, laundering money comes with higher risks because the money has to be played through before it can be withdrawn. Most casinos have policies requiring a 100% rollover for every deposit, making it too obvious if launderers simply use the casino to deposit and withdraw dirty money, the system would flag it and block the transaction.

For a launderer, casinos wouldn’t be the ideal choice unless they’re willing to risk the entire amount. Even if they try sports betting as a workaround, depositing half the amount in one sportsbook and the other half in another, betting on both sides of a game, they’d still lose around 10% because most sportsbooks offer 1.90 odds on even-money bets. It’s not an efficient method.
legendary
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December 31, 2024, 05:48:43 AM
I remember we had a case with bestchange and a guy who claimed that the exchange he has selected from bestchange, are holding his funds. The story has ended with a guy trying to use bestchange for money laundering. I believe that casinos have more advanced security and if exchange monitor managed to catch such guy, then casinos would do it quicker or more perfectly. That why I think money laundering through casinos is impossible, or casinos in collusion with launderers.
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December 30, 2024, 03:07:55 PM
A casino is a profitable business so it needs a license to be considered legitimate by the government and a casino cannot be anonymous if it has a license, but this is pretty much the same way CEX works.
So the casino will keep a close eye on its users if caught then they will take action against the user.
The government cannot be blamed even if they themselves are laundering the money, and usually the government is unlikely to do so.
Y you're right, casinos that are already legal and licensed by the local government will have the authority to enforce KYC at a certain withdrawal rate, so this can prevent money laundering from happening because they will know who is trying to launder money.

Some actions will certainly be taken if a player tries to commit money laundering by freezing their account and issuing a warning that they have committed a violation.

And the discussion about the government that may carry out this laundering will be related to individuals or individuals in the government,
because of the government, it consists of many parts that jointly regulate the government.

Those who individually violate and commit money laundering can also be investigated and will be arrested if guilty.
sr. member
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December 30, 2024, 02:54:40 PM
Failing to screen is the reason why the casinos run the KYC/AML system. So no criminal and pass through without being caught. Casinos are this at less risk than m*xers which are the hub for tainted coins and money laundering. If someone is shut down it will be the latter, not casinos.
No wonder common people will be harassed but they have to bear with it.

These places have been used for ages in different types of money laundering, since land based casinos. Only the mode has changed, the modus remains same.
In addition to this, most casino have a wagering requirements for all deposit before withdrawal can be made, this way criminals will not used the casino for money laundering because they realize that they have to fulfil x1 or x2 wagering requirement of their deposit before they can make withdrawal, they will be discouraged from passing the funds through the casino. If they insist on passing the money through the casino, there are high chances of losing the money and this is what most illicit funds cannot afford because the money does not belong to one person.
legendary
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December 30, 2024, 02:47:51 PM
Casinos are now quite strict and if the funds flow from illegal activities then they will suspend it, I know casinos don't want their business destroyed just because of this, that's why money laundering is prohibited.
The government can legally confiscate casinos involved in this because it can allow illegal activities, I think casinos are open businesses so they don't want to be tainted with bad things like other illegal activities.
Crypto casinos now have many protocols almost like those of a FIAT money bank, and that is not something that is entirely good, this against the money launderer and the ill-gotten money, that is a fact, but crypto casinos should always be anonymous, the casinos should only care that the players have money to spend there, I know that the regulations make them do that to make it appear to the governments that they are doing everything right, but the criminals who launder money through the casinos are very new, the money launderer or sometimes the governments themselves do it.
A casino is a profitable business so it needs a license to be considered legitimate by the government and a casino cannot be anonymous if it has a license, but this is pretty much the same way CEX works.
So the casino will keep a close eye on its users if caught then they will take action against the user.
The government cannot be blamed even if they themselves are laundering the money, and usually the government is unlikely to do so.
legendary
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December 30, 2024, 12:27:49 PM
I don't think that cryptocurrency online casinos can be used to launder money obtained through criminal means. The fact is that online casinos do not need such money.

The essence of their business is different. Online casinos are organizers of gambling and receive a reward for this service. Receiving criminal money can greatly damage their business, as it can attract close attention from representatives of regulatory government agencies.

No online casino is interested in such a development of events.

Therefore, online casinos take appropriate measures - for example, they do not accept deposits in anonymous and confidential cryptocurrencies, introduce AML and KYC procedures for clients, and so on.
legendary
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December 30, 2024, 07:31:31 AM
We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

I've always wondered how a crypto casino can be used to launder money. The money launderer deposits money(crypto or fiat) in the casino, plays certain low-risk games and then withdraws the money. What if the money launderer loses a big part of the money(or everything)?
Perhaps a more secure method for laundering money would be the money launderer creating and launching his own crypto casino(with rigged games) and declaring the money to be laundered as casino revenue(by creating multiple fake casino accounts and depositing the money). The KYC regulations could be bypassed, if the casino owner(money launderer) obtained lots of IDs from poor people(or he created fake IDs).
There must be loopholes in this kind of money laundering scheme.


Since nobody here is an experienced money launderer, we will never know whole process. If casinos are involved in money laundering, then both casino and money owner are involved. I think they have low risk. But, I dont think that casinos are good for money laundering. How I see the process, a person place bets, losses money, then win jackpot and withdraw and the money becomes more or less clean. An accidental gambler can win that jackpot either. And that is the moment when problem starts.
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December 30, 2024, 07:19:29 AM
We all know the recent issue about the mixer status here in the forum. Crypto casino is also being use for money laundering by some criminals that’s why every casino has AML policy.

I’m just curious what will be the fate of crypto casino once money laundering activity from mixer will jump to casino now that mixer will not be advertised here which means it has less exposure. Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?

I've always wondered how a crypto casino can be used to launder money. The money launderer deposits money(crypto or fiat) in the casino, plays certain low-risk games and then withdraws the money. What if the money launderer loses a big part of the money(or everything)?
Perhaps a more secure method for laundering money would be the money launderer creating and launching his own crypto casino(with rigged games) and declaring the money to be laundered as casino revenue(by creating multiple fake casino accounts and depositing the money). The KYC regulations could be bypassed, if the casino owner(money launderer) obtained lots of IDs from poor people(or he created fake IDs).
There must be loopholes in this kind of money laundering scheme.
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December 30, 2024, 06:02:48 AM
The use of crypto casinos for money laundering is primarily based on the anonymity of transactions, the possibility of manipulating games, and the lack of regulation on some platforms.
This creates certain risks, but also leads to the development of security systems and fraud prevention methods in the industry.
legendary
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December 30, 2024, 05:19:59 AM
Is there any possibility that crypto casino will be seized by the government just like what happened to mixers in case they failed to screen the laundering activity?
I think the two sites are different, mixer is only for use as a transaction, while gambling sites provide games, I mean even though both are detected as money laundering places, they are not gambling unlike mixer.

What's more, currently many mixers are illegal, while in the gambling industry there are several countries where it is legal and they also regulate taxes well, so I don't think there are any strange actions against the gambling industry if I judge, Gambling has existed since ancient times, even though a lot of what we see in the gambling arena are negative actions, gambling still continues as we see today.
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December 30, 2024, 05:12:31 AM

Many casinos are protecting their services because of this money laundering of a thing. They are mostly recognized by the government and have different tools to detect if a particular fund is from a criminal source of not. They are sheltered by sophisticated tools we might not be aware about watching every transactions to ensure that they are protected by the money laundering act which covers casinos .and other online businesses. If the casino team noticed thatvyiu sendmt fund that is from a well corrupt source, they have the right to seize the fund and report to the government.
Even the casinos have got themselves to protect and that is why they will try their possible best to stick to the money laundry act so they don't get prosecutor by the government someday because they failed to report or probably not tolerate such when seen on their platform and that is why they make sure to monitor the influx of transactions on their platforms so they can be able to make sure to their platform isn't used to perpetuate such and get them into trouble with the government.
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December 30, 2024, 04:54:43 AM
Failing to screen is the reason why the casinos run the KYC/AML system. So no criminal and pass through without being caught. Casinos are this at less risk than m*xers which are the hub for tainted coins and money laundering. If someone is shut down it will be the latter, not casinos.
No wonder common people will be harassed but they have to bear with it.

These places have been used for ages in different types of money laundering, since land based casinos. Only the mode has changed, the modus remains same.
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