Moolah Scam on Mintpal - Reporting Missing Coins - page 85.

BlockaFett

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Quote from: Gatekeeper on October 20, 2014, 08:48:36 AM

Ok just thinking about it, if the following is correct...

1) Ryan took complete (meaning sole) control of the Mintpal wallets on some date (x)

2) After date (x) 3,700 went walkies and is being split up in big chunks (like above)

3) This BTC belonged to customers and its been taken out (and Ryan isn't returning it)

Then whats the problem, why can't UK fraud authorities prosecute him, the funds are gone and he was in sole control, and obviously the above trail isn't a 'bug' ferreting the funds away like that?

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How many times we'll have to say to never trust the exchanges ? Store most of your BTC in a secure wallet guys, it's not the first time that happened and I'm sure it's far to be the last one. Greed never changes.

This isn't a solution. People need to have trustworthy exchanges. I transferred BTC to mintpal for a trade 1hr before it disappeared. Either the technology needs to be there for decentralized trustless exchanges or we need to have community organizations and standards with which to properly audit companies (and the individuals involved) so that this sort of thing doesn't keep happening. If there is no 3rd party oversight, no accountability and unvetted/anonymous people in charge this is guaranteed to continue.

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Quote from: BlockaFett on October 20, 2014, 11:05:59 AM

Quote from: Gatekeeper on October 20, 2014, 10:33:46 AM

Quote from: BlockaFett on October 20, 2014, 09:41:37 AM

Just got this from Bitstamp...

thank you for your email. Unfortunately, none of the addresses which you have specified belong to Bitstamp or its customers.

We are nevertheless looking into the matter and are vigilant on not letting the stolen bitcoins go through Bitstamp's wallets.

Should you have any additional qustions or info, please feel free to share

These are the addresses I sent:

https://blockchain.info/address/14S6kiHzVNcSCA9TCiPaEGJfSiP1HHokEd
https://blockchain.info/address/122JyMtGtiiP4mMFn86tAGfrqiyhXAnrrk

so who's addresses are they?

Hmmm, It's a weird one, 3 gigantic addresses are linked together and there's no real proof of exactly what they are. I can't believe it's not an exchange
the two listed above are active now, the older address that sent to both of them is below and ran from Jan-Jun
https://blockchain.info/address/1FVcMfHXPp8JSCduYyELzQZf6X4tSv89ho?offset=1050&filter=0

I'm amazed you can have 3 such huge and active addresses and no real proof of who they belong to by searching google.
Bobba, those 2 addresses i thought were Stamps, well the 183k one mainly, when Stamp do their proof of reserve the amount of btc i remember them having was 183k so thought it was theirs but obviously not

It might not be too important because it was only a small amount of btc sent there, the vast majority of the stolen coins are sitting in the addresses i listed, so i'll be keeping an eye on them.

I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out.

no worries, so might have jumped the gun with Bitstamp but better to be safe than sorry, at least we know it's not them...

On legal approach for this personally I don't think it matters where the coins ended up, rather that they were under Ryan's control and he took them.

If it is not Bitstamp it must be one of the other large exchanges ... worth sending this info to the rest of them?

If nothing else we can rule them out, when you find out which one it is they may be able to link the name of Alex/Ryan

BlockaFett

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Quote from: ?? on ??

How many times we'll have to say to never trust the exchanges ? Store most of your BTC in a secure wallet guys, it's not the first time that happened and I'm sure it's far to be the last one. Greed never changes.

LOL thanks.

BlockaFett

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Quote from: Gatekeeper on October 20, 2014, 10:33:46 AM

Quote from: BlockaFett on October 20, 2014, 09:41:37 AM

Just got this from Bitstamp...

thank you for your email. Unfortunately, none of the addresses which you have specified belong to Bitstamp or its customers.

We are nevertheless looking into the matter and are vigilant on not letting the stolen bitcoins go through Bitstamp's wallets.

Should you have any additional qustions or info, please feel free to share

These are the addresses I sent:

https://blockchain.info/address/14S6kiHzVNcSCA9TCiPaEGJfSiP1HHokEd
https://blockchain.info/address/122JyMtGtiiP4mMFn86tAGfrqiyhXAnrrk

so who's addresses are they?

Hmmm, It's a weird one, 3 gigantic addresses are linked together and there's no real proof of exactly what they are. I can't believe it's not an exchange
the two listed above are active now, the older address that sent to both of them is below and ran from Jan-Jun
https://blockchain.info/address/1FVcMfHXPp8JSCduYyELzQZf6X4tSv89ho?offset=1050&filter=0

I'm amazed you can have 3 such huge and active addresses and no real proof of who they belong to by searching google.
Bobba, those 2 addresses i thought were Stamps, well the 183k one mainly, when Stamp do their proof of reserve the amount of btc i remember them having was 183k so thought it was theirs but obviously not

It might not be too important because it was only a small amount of btc sent there, the vast majority of the stolen coins are sitting in the addresses i listed, so i'll be keeping an eye on them.

I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out.

no worries, so might have jumped the gun with Bitstamp but better to be safe than sorry, at least we know it's not them...

On legal approach for this personally I don't think it matters where the coins ended up, rather that they were under Ryan's control and he took them.

BlockaFett

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Quote from: naplam on October 20, 2014, 10:53:22 AM

Quote from: Gatekeeper on October 20, 2014, 10:33:46 AM

I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out.

And for good reason... you can't have a team of vigilantes decide somebody else's money is to be destroyed, the idea is insane.

it's not insane, there are crypto services right now saying they are going to track where BTC has been and only allow coins not previously used for certain activities

i dont agree with it though personally it should be a free system

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Quote from: Gatekeeper on October 20, 2014, 10:33:46 AM

I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out.

And for good reason... you can't have a team of vigilantes decide somebody else's money is to be destroyed, the idea is insane.

Gatekeeper

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Quote from: BlockaFett on October 20, 2014, 09:41:37 AM

Just got this from Bitstamp...

thank you for your email. Unfortunately, none of the addresses which you have specified belong to Bitstamp or its customers.

We are nevertheless looking into the matter and are vigilant on not letting the stolen bitcoins go through Bitstamp's wallets.

Should you have any additional qustions or info, please feel free to share

These are the addresses I sent:

https://blockchain.info/address/14S6kiHzVNcSCA9TCiPaEGJfSiP1HHokEd
https://blockchain.info/address/122JyMtGtiiP4mMFn86tAGfrqiyhXAnrrk

so who's addresses are they?

Hmmm, It's a weird one, 3 gigantic addresses are linked together and there's no real proof of exactly what they are. I can't believe it's not an exchange
the two listed above are active now, the older address that sent to both of them is below and ran from Jan-Jun
https://blockchain.info/address/1FVcMfHXPp8JSCduYyELzQZf6X4tSv89ho?offset=1050&filter=0

I'm amazed you can have 3 such huge and active addresses and no real proof of who they belong to by searching google.
Bobba, those 2 addresses i thought were Stamps, well the 183k one mainly, when Stamp do their proof of reserve the amount of btc i remember them having was 183k so thought it was theirs but obviously not

It might not be too important because it was only a small amount of btc sent there, the vast majority of the stolen coins are sitting in the addresses i listed, so i'll be keeping an eye on them.

I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out.

BlockaFett

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Quote from: DeAlquezar on October 20, 2014, 10:16:46 AM

Any chance to reclaim our BTC? What do you think abou it?

IDK. Trying

BlockaFett

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Quote from: Gatekeeper on October 20, 2014, 08:48:36 AM

Hey Gatekeeper

Any chance you can email Bitstamp and give the exact BTC addresses you think are theirs and that the stolen funds originated from? Not sure if I gave them the correct info. If you link this thread they are aware of the situation, or PM me. If there's a chance we can definitely track the stolen funds to their wallet its important obviously but they are saying its not their wallet.

[email protected]

cheers

DeAlquezar

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Any chance to reclaim our BTC? What do you think abou it?

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Quote from: Insomniac8 on October 20, 2014, 09:42:08 AM

How are people even requesting withdrawals? The site is completely down apart from a non-functioning login box for me...

If it does not work, reset the password by clicking the link on the page.

Insomniac8

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How are people even requesting withdrawals? The site is completely down apart from a non-functioning login box for me...

BlockaFett

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Just got this from Bitstamp...

thank you for your email. Unfortunately, none of the addresses which you have specified belong to Bitstamp or its customers.

We are nevertheless looking into the matter and are vigilant on not letting the stolen bitcoins go through Bitstamp's wallets.

Should you have any additional qustions or info, please feel free to share

These are the addresses I sent:

https://blockchain.info/address/14S6kiHzVNcSCA9TCiPaEGJfSiP1HHokEd
https://blockchain.info/address/122JyMtGtiiP4mMFn86tAGfrqiyhXAnrrk

so who's addresses are they?

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Quote from: stagehand099 on October 19, 2014, 12:34:46 PM

It might be a year or more, but this prick will eventually resurface, probably broke, infected with an STD or three, and looking for a scam to perpetrate. You really can't hide forever in the world of the interwebz and when Ryan/Alex blows through the 3700 BTC ($1,470,000 some odd dollars worth!) he will return to his old haunts....

Then Karma with a capital K will likely come upon his sorry ass......

and yes, he got me for a few coins also.......

With maybe 1.5-2 million usd worth of bitCoins at today's prices
he could easily stay under the radar

Those btc will probably double or triple in value in the next 6
months so unfortunately he has stolen a substantial amount
and that's not even counting the garbage coins

The btc amount is shocking to be entrusted to a guy who even has
a past history of being a scammer/thief

I hope everyone gets refunded but we all know how hard that's going
to be, esp for people in other countries

Hopefully he gets what's coming to him

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Quote from: LightningBlade on October 20, 2014, 08:12:07 AM

BTC in mintpal should be safe, just wait for few more days.... (hopefully)

There is no more MintPal, BTC are stolen.

Gatekeeper

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LightningBlade

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BTC in mintpal should be safe, just wait for few more days.... (hopefully)

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Received: 60k DGB
Missing: TOR, BTC (not able to save withdrawal address)

NZ_miner

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Finally got my DRK coin today after waiting two days since I submitted the withdrawl request.

Just my BTC stuck now. What does everyone think will happen?

Reading between the lines it seems evident that some will be missing, so do you think they will do a % payout ... ie. 40% of funds missing, 60% of everyones balance returned in BTC? Or is that being optimistic?

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