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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on October 20, 2017, 02:21:16 PM

The important thing which people often don't understand about BTC and other cryptos with a same model (not tokens),
is that it's not only about technology. If you think that BTC is just a technology, you are wrong.
Governments can create their centralised coins or use the blockchain technology in another way,
but BTC and other decentralised coins are different story.
For example, governments can sponsor good scientific projects, and it's great,
but Wikipedia is edited by average people.
There are 2 different things. Crypto, backed by governments, and crypto, backed by people. They can co-exist.
Let people try to create their own (independent from governments) financial project. Don't bash it.
Think of it in terms of Wikipedia, everyone can edit it, but it doesn't mean that it consists of garbage.
It has mechanisms of self-regulation. And it creates a service, which you use on a daily basis.
True cryptos (mineable, not tokens) have some mechanisms for self-regulation, too.
Real problems are volatility and ICO tokens schemes for making a quick buck, probably main exchanges should be forced to limit price movements (like at stock exchanges).

Ok genius, truly thank you, good lesson for me as well.
So how do we move this ( " not token ") coin, just little, so it can get more attention ?

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on October 20, 2017, 01:34:37 PM

'if I cannot understand something, or if I don't like something, it's a garbage and scam'.

This is so true. It has been this way since the beginning, and its still true today, but I am starting to see some signs that this type of thinking is waning.

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The important thing which people often don't understand about BTC and other cryptos with a same model (not tokens),
is that it's not only about technology. If you think that BTC is just a technology, you are wrong.
Governments can create their centralised coins or use the blockchain technology in another way,
but BTC and other decentralised coins are different story.
For example, governments can sponsor good scientific projects, and it's great,
but Wikipedia is edited by average people.
There are 2 different things. Crypto, backed by governments, and crypto, backed by people. They can co-exist.
Let people try to create their own (independent from governments) financial project. Don't bash it.
Think of it in terms of Wikipedia, everyone can edit it, but it doesn't mean that it consists of garbage.
It has mechanisms of self-regulation. And it creates a service, which you use on a daily basis.
True cryptos (mineable, not tokens) have some mechanisms for self-regulation, too.
Real problems are volatility and ICO tokens schemes for making a quick buck, probably main exchanges should be forced to limit price movements (like at stock exchanges).

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Quote from: Bitbobb on October 17, 2017, 12:50:25 AM

Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on October 16, 2017, 06:31:58 AM

Quote from: Mr. Blond on October 16, 2017, 03:57:14 AM

I thought the whole purpose of crypto was to pay with 1 universal coin. The tokens i can understand as having business value. But to just have a coin which only represents the distance to the moon with no usecase and solely for that purpose be worth $1, I cant see it.

Mind you: this is not to offend anyone in any case. I am just trying to figure things out

It's a common bias.
It's like to say that the whole purpose of traditional currencies was to pay with 1 currency (e.g. with $).
The world economy needs many currencies to be stable, not to depend on one center which issues the currency.
You know, the single point of failure.
Besides, if you mean BTC, just answer one simple question: how many BTCs does usually one person own? Not more than 10 BTC, and for not rich countries usually is even less, even not more than 1 BTC.
And now look at the distribution of BTC addresses (rich list):
only 11 % of coins are on addresses with 0-10 BTC per one address, and only 3% of coins are on addresses with 0-1 BTC.
That means that all common people (combined) own only 3% of BTC, do you believe that it is normal or fair?
Another question which you have to answer: there are several billion people in the world, if the whole purpose was to pay with 1 currency,
what supply should this currency have? 0.003 coins per person?

As for tokens, in some cases they really can have business value, only if they are linked to real businesses with profit,
and if this business somehow pays dividends to token owners, though in this case these tokens are securities and cannot be traded at Altcoin exchanges. If you look at tokens/ICOs, they usually don't provide a working business solution or real dividends,
they usually are just tokens, with no working solutions at all, they only promise them.
Logically, there are 2 variants:
1) tokens which are just tokens with no business value
2) tokens which have business value and they are securities with all legal issues after that.

data for bitcoin distribution may have problems when you consider that most users will never use the same address two times in a row plus any change address. So the result is that many smaller addresses make up the total number of bitcoins someone may hold. I realize this does not apply to everyone but you will not be able to determine what percentage of the data represents these scenarios, can you?

You're right, and that only proves that even less than 3% of BTC supply currently is distributed between small holders.
BTC is not a pyramid though, because BTC has an intrinsic value, in fact, it's mineable (and MOON, too), mineable like gold, silver etc. BTC is digital gold, it's rare and you cannot produce it out of thin air. MOON has a same model as BTC, but without so big problems with distribution and supply.

BTC is being actively bashed since this summer, but it rises, it indicates big strength of this market.
People need time to start to discover other markets (Altcoins), to understand them.

Coinmarketcap.com now is in 500 the most visited websites in the world. People look at coins and wait, people are trying to get a better understanding of this economic phenomenon. Only close-minded people prefer to bash crypto and to offend crypto holders, they follow this logic: 'if I cannot understand something, or if I don't like something, it's a garbage and scam'.

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Quote from: atliens99 on October 18, 2017, 07:59:33 AM

I agree that mooncoin would be a great currency. Bitcoin is valuable but not really a good currency, over 5000 dollars per nuit. A currency is better with mooncoin since it has a high supply and the value may be closer to a dollar/ euro in the future.

fully agreed,Mooncoin has great value as a currency n surely will rise and as for Bitcoin it is an 'asset' rather than a currency.

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Quote from: nothingtosee on October 20, 2017, 02:55:56 AM

How can I use the Paperwallet to send funds? Is there any tutorial? It would be nice to know. Can somebody help me?

Visit https://walletgenerator.net,
choose MOON (Mooncoin) and follow the instructions.
For more safety you can download their Github source (a directory with html and script files) and run the index.html in a browser on an offline machine to generate the Mooncoin address.
Don't forget to save and keep in a safe place the private key for the generated address and never publish the private key online and never disclosure it to anyone.
For more information please read:
how to use Mooncoin paper wallets in a simple and secure way:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19204457
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19268862

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I believe that the good news are close.

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How can I use the Paperwallet to send funds? Is there any tutorial? It would be nice to know. Can somebody help me?

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I agree that mooncoin would be a great currency. Bitcoin is valuable but not really a good currency, over 5000 dollars per nuit. A currency is better with mooncoin since it has a high supply and the value may be closer to a dollar/ euro in the future.

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Less hops. More wins.

there is a tip bot that has been built for the discord server!

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To The Moon !

Quote from: pollforall on October 18, 2017, 05:16:28 AM

Quote from: pollforall on October 06, 2017, 02:46:57 PM

Hello to all , after the successfully request to me for the creation of online wallet i inform you:
Approximately in a week and based some details as domain name and etc I will complete by requested the Mooncoin online wallet , will inform here when have results

hello to all ,
soon will be up online wallet, in progress adaptation and testing.

Good afternoon. Great news ! I have started the mining of Mooncoin too. So, I'm curious to see the daily sum of mining coins...

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Quote from: pollforall on October 06, 2017, 02:46:57 PM

Hello to all , after the successfully request to me for the creation of online wallet i inform you:
Approximately in a week and based some details as domain name and etc I will complete by requested the Mooncoin online wallet , will inform here when have results

hello to all ,
soon will be up online wallet, in progress adaptation and testing.

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Quote from: Mr. Blond on October 16, 2017, 03:57:14 AM

Why would this coin go up in value? And i m not trying to be rude, but the total amount is massive and there are so many coins.

I thought the whole purpose of crypto was to pay with 1 universal coin. The tokens i can understand as having business value. But to just have a coin which only represents the distance to the moon with no usecase and solely for that purpose be worth $1, I cant see it.

Mind you: this is not to offend anyone in any case. I am just trying to figure things out

WİRNİNG NO BUY

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on October 16, 2017, 06:31:58 AM

Quote from: Mr. Blond on October 16, 2017, 03:57:14 AM

I thought the whole purpose of crypto was to pay with 1 universal coin. The tokens i can understand as having business value. But to just have a coin which only represents the distance to the moon with no usecase and solely for that purpose be worth $1, I cant see it.

Mind you: this is not to offend anyone in any case. I am just trying to figure things out

It's a common bias.
It's like to say that the whole purpose of traditional currencies was to pay with 1 currency (e.g. with $).
The world economy needs many currencies to be stable, not to depend on one center which issues the currency.
You know, the single point of failure.
Besides, if you mean BTC, just answer one simple question: how many BTCs does usually one person own? Not more than 10 BTC, and for not rich countries usually is even less, even not more than 1 BTC.
And now look at the distribution of BTC addresses (rich list):
only 11 % of coins are on addresses with 0-10 BTC per one address, and only 3% of coins are on addresses with 0-1 BTC.
That means that all common people (combined) own only 3% of BTC, do you believe that it is normal or fair?
Another question which you have to answer: there are several billion people in the world, if the whole purpose was to pay with 1 currency,
what supply should this currency have? 0.003 coins per person?

As for tokens, in some cases they really can have business value, only if they are linked to real businesses with profit,
and if this business somehow pays dividends to token owners, though in this case these tokens are securities and cannot be traded at Altcoin exchanges. If you look at tokens/ICOs, they usually don't provide a working business solution or real dividends,
they usually are just tokens, with no working solutions at all, they only promise them.
Logically, there are 2 variants:
1) tokens which are just tokens with no business value
2) tokens which have business value and they are securities with all legal issues after that.

data for bitcoin distribution may have problems when you consider that most users will never use the same address two times in a row plus any change address. So the result is that many smaller addresses make up the total number of bitcoins someone may hold. I realize this does not apply to everyone but you will not be able to determine what percentage of the data represents these scenarios, can you?

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Quote from: Mooncoin_Foundation on October 16, 2017, 02:01:14 PM

Also people ask the questions about the upcoming fork, which aims to solve problems with pauses between blocks, to add Segwit and other improvements.
First of all, the developer who is solely developing the new wallet is barrysty1e. He will post an update in this ANN thread and will publish a new code and binaries at https://github.com/mooncoindev.
If you have coins at exchanges or in paper wallets, nothing to do. Exchanges will update the wallet. Paper wallets are just pairs private key-address which are stable and don't depend on a version of Mooncoin wallet.
If you use a desktop wallet, then you have to download and run a new wallet when it's ready (to backup your wallet.dat is always a good idea though).

I don't know more details currently (what will be the fork block...), waiting for the update from the Mooncoin dev, barrysty1e.

Good morning ! I believe that the good news are close...

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Also people ask the questions about the upcoming fork, which aims to solve problems with pauses between blocks, to add Segwit and other improvements.
First of all, the developer who is solely developing the new wallet is barrysty1e. He will post an update in this ANN thread and will publish a new code and binaries at https://github.com/mooncoindev.
If you have coins at exchanges or in paper wallets, nothing to do. Exchanges will update the wallet. Paper wallets are just pairs private key-address which are stable and don't depend on a version of Mooncoin wallet.
If you use a desktop wallet, then you have to download and run a new wallet when it's ready (to backup your wallet.dat is always a good idea though).

I don't know more details currently (what will be the fork block...), waiting for the update from the Mooncoin dev, barrysty1e.

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Quote from: Fitness-tools on October 16, 2017, 11:04:28 AM

So what makes this coin unique?

Some features make Mooncoin unique, e.g. other coins don't have supply of 385 bil,
and MOON is the first coin which is going to use the BalloonHash algo:

Quote from: barrysty1e on August 23, 2017, 05:04:57 AM

At first I was pleased with the new algorithm 'Lyra2M'; however it wasn't perfect, often causing users machines to become quite sluggish and unusable. Additionally, I've had several hints that pools were ready to jump in at the block height of the fork, due to the pre-release of the cpuminer (it is possible to roughly setup a stratum based on available source code); as well as the nagging doubts as to a GPU miner being possible and/or written.

So with this in mind, i'd like to announce that we will be the first Cryptocurrency to utilize the BalloonHash password hashing algorithm (url https://crypto.stanford.edu/balloon/ whitepaper https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/027.pdf). Comparable in strength; yet more durable and resistant to attack than Argon2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI3d-Typ_JY
(quick video showing the new algorithm solving for a block)

Additionally; the new release will benefit from the Litecoin 13.3 codebase (with segwit), extensions for the Moonlite/Moonword platform; as well as a much needed retarget algorithm (with self-lowering difficulty after timeout).

Thankyou to those who have held on; it has been one epic ride,
baz.

your question though is not about unique features, it's about what makes Mooncoin interesting what other coins don't have.

There are 2 important things:
1) MOON is one of very few decentralised coins which are suitable for worldwide adoption theoretically, it has a name, big community, low inflation, fast block time, appropriate supply, it's not just for fun, also it's fair, it's not a token, etc.
2) there are unique projects already made and being made from scratch in the Mooncoin ecosystem, other coins don't have them/or even anything similar to them,
e.g. Smart Likes.

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So what makes this coin unique?

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Does anyone know when the hard-fork is scheduled to happen? And when it is going to go live? Is it going to be like BTG where the fork happens on the 25th and then the live date is like Nov 1st ... something like that?

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Quote from: GeneralC1 on October 16, 2017, 04:34:33 AM

I think that the dev team should do a better marketing. You eventually want that people will also use your platform right. However, i do think that price will rise significantly in the next days.

Marketing and promoting monncoin is up to all of the community not just the dev team i think that everybody is trying very hard and not enough credit is given People are taking advantage of the cheap price while it lasts 1sat very cheap I also think the price will increase in the very near future i think this an exiting time for mooncoin

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