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hero member
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November 07, 2018, 10:30:12 AM
Here We Frick'n go Again

LOCKED STATUS

 Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

The main fact rises Again Coinexchange seeks to disable the mooncoin transfers as
long as that the 316 million mooncoins are Paid?

As for this matter what now?



thats correct. (going by the post)   they are locking the coin up, until the ransom is paid.

  and they are saying its 'our' fault.    and 'we' are saying its their fault.

ofc, i am saying our/we meaning coin dev team.

    Even with proof, they could still refuse to reenable coin.


Other exchanges would be a good idea.   (course, i dont know the cost to get on the various exchanges)

 many smaller 'free' exchanges would benefit us atm.
newbie
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November 07, 2018, 09:30:16 AM
 Here We Frick'n go Again

LOCKED STATUS

 Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

The main fact rises Again Coinexchange seeks to disable the mooncoin transfers as
long as that the 316 million mooncoins are Paid?

As for this matter what now?

hero member
Activity: 1176
Merit: 501
November 07, 2018, 08:42:21 AM
Sounds like they should be charged 400 million mooncoin for diagnostic evaluation of their error.

Smiley i know, this isnt a resolution of this problem. but it irks me.

Maybe a SS of Vass sent email with timestamps etc.   not that it will really matter, but if they push in public, it can be posted by anyone, that they failed to comply.

...ugh.

Well, guess we move on.
sr. member
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To The Moon !
November 07, 2018, 08:06:50 AM
Hello!
Coinexchange Report from Mooncoin News Telegram:

We were informed by CE that false deposits were being made and trading had to be suspended until we could find a resolution. We didn't have much information to go on with at first which meant we had to go through many different scenarios as to how it was happening.

This meant trawling through past changes in Github and forks, trying to find out if there was a 51% attack during times of high mining hashrate, whether someone had created a side chain. None of these things happened so we had to go back to CE to try to get more information.
Eventually, they sent us some of the tx id's which we put through our Block Explorer. We found that none of these tx's were confirmed by our blockchain despite CE telling us they had 500 confirmations. That meant further investigation (Why did they have confirms but we couldn't see them). It turns out they have been using an unofficial wallet build. We do not know of this build nor who built it. We guess that a previous dev built it as a test but never published it.

Out of all that, CE say they have paid out 316M Mooncoins to whoever did the false deposits. They now say we are responsible for reimbursing them all of these coins.
We have discussed it at length not only with the team but with the long term large holders in Mooncoin. We are all in agreement that we cannot be held responsible for what happens in an exchange. We don't know how they have confirms when they don't appear on our blockchain.
We contacted Vass, our previous developer, who advised us that he emailed Coinexchange on 31st December 2017 to update to the latest build. He supplied them with the official build. It appears that they did not do this.
Due to that we refuse to pay CE 316 million Mooncoins.
1 We do not have that sum to start with.
2 Devs cannot be held responsible for the workings of an exchange and do not see this as a Mooncoin problem.
3 We see this as a ransom to relist Mooncoin on CE, we could be liable to same situation in future. This means extra pressure on devs and they would essentially be liable for any future exchange problems.

In response to end-users who ask when the MOON market will be open again, CE has been replying that they are 'waiting for the MoonCoin developers to resolve the outstanding issues' before they can re-enable the wallet. Please understand that when they say this, they do not mean resolution of a technical issue. We have walked them through building the proper release version of the wallet, and they have done so successfully.  The 'outstanding issue' in their eyes is the payment of 316M mooncoin, which they are demanding from the dev team.

It has taken many long hours to  find out what the issues were and to come up with a resolution. Thank you to Michi and Mebagger for their meticulous and painstaking efforts throughout.


As a community coin it is now open for the community to discuss.


If you have any suggestions welcome to: https://t.me/MoonCoinEco. We have a hot conversation right now.
Good afternoon. Thank you for this announcement. This community needed it.
newbie
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November 07, 2018, 03:37:25 AM
Hello!
Coinexchange Report from Mooncoin News Telegram:

We were informed by CE that false deposits were being made and trading had to be suspended until we could find a resolution. We didn't have much information to go on with at first which meant we had to go through many different scenarios as to how it was happening.

This meant trawling through past changes in Github and forks, trying to find out if there was a 51% attack during times of high mining hashrate, whether someone had created a side chain. None of these things happened so we had to go back to CE to try to get more information.
Eventually, they sent us some of the tx id's which we put through our Block Explorer. We found that none of these tx's were confirmed by our blockchain despite CE telling us they had 500 confirmations. That meant further investigation (Why did they have confirms but we couldn't see them). It turns out they have been using an unofficial wallet build. We do not know of this build nor who built it. We guess that a previous dev built it as a test but never published it.

Out of all that, CE say they have paid out 316M Mooncoins to whoever did the false deposits. They now say we are responsible for reimbursing them all of these coins.
We have discussed it at length not only with the team but with the long term large holders in Mooncoin. We are all in agreement that we cannot be held responsible for what happens in an exchange. We don't know how they have confirms when they don't appear on our blockchain.
We contacted Vass, our previous developer, who advised us that he emailed Coinexchange on 31st December 2017 to update to the latest build. He supplied them with the official build. It appears that they did not do this.
Due to that we refuse to pay CE 316 million Mooncoins.
1 We do not have that sum to start with.
2 Devs cannot be held responsible for the workings of an exchange and do not see this as a Mooncoin problem.
3 We see this as a ransom to relist Mooncoin on CE, we could be liable to same situation in future. This means extra pressure on devs and they would essentially be liable for any future exchange problems.

In response to end-users who ask when the MOON market will be open again, CE has been replying that they are 'waiting for the MoonCoin developers to resolve the outstanding issues' before they can re-enable the wallet. Please understand that when they say this, they do not mean resolution of a technical issue. We have walked them through building the proper release version of the wallet, and they have done so successfully.  The 'outstanding issue' in their eyes is the payment of 316M mooncoin, which they are demanding from the dev team.

It has taken many long hours to  find out what the issues were and to come up with a resolution. Thank you to Michi and Mebagger for their meticulous and painstaking efforts throughout.


As a community coin it is now open for the community to discuss.


If you have any suggestions welcome to: https://t.me/MoonCoinEco. We have a hot conversation right now.
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hero member
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November 03, 2018, 08:05:06 AM
Asking here doesnt do much, you'd have to ask them, when they are going to do it.

 
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To The Moon !
November 03, 2018, 01:33:05 AM
What's going on with Coinexchange? This needs to be sorted as soon as possible.

Good morning. I think that we will have news about this issue soon.
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November 02, 2018, 09:01:47 PM
What's going on with Coinexchange? This needs to be sorted as soon as possible.
newbie
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ANY NEWS ON THE COINEXCHANGE FIASCO!??



What fiasco, ore they going to be listed on coinexchange.io or is there any problem for MOON

Well they are updating wallet ? was siad here but that's an explanation.
Still Asking How long does that take (shouldn't it be done already?

Why should it take Weeks? months ect
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ANY NEWS ON THE COINEXCHANGE FIASCO!??



What fiasco, ore they going to be listed on coinexchange.io or is there any problem for MOON
newbie
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ANY NEWS ON THE COINEXCHANGE FIASCO!??

sr. member
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To The Moon !
Good afternoon. The Satowallet Team  has applied for listing their Exchange into Coinmarketcap. There are some Moon's trading pairs in their platform. Good news...
amazing news for both Satowallet and Mooncoin, honestly.
Can you give me more exact listing day on CMC and exchange, please.
They have announced it in Twitter:

 https://twitter.com/thesamuelben/status/1056183983363551232
sr. member
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To The Moon !
Good afternoon. The Satowallet Team  has applied for listing their Exchange into Coinmarketcap. There are some Moon's trading pairs in their platform. Good news...
sr. member
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To The Moon !
Good afternoon. Firstly, Mooncoin is listed in Raisex with this pair: https://raisex.io/trade/MOON_BTC. Also, we are waiting  the news about Coinexchange issue. 
newbie
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Thnx @ MeBagger2 for reply


Reading correctly the whole problem with coinexchange off being inactive is that the've had an older wallet version?


Well okay okee its an answer that is satisfying to an extent.
(Still gotten a list of questions)

Hope after this annoying occurrence future Problems can be adressed sooner
 (and in better senario don't happen at all)





sr. member
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To The Moon !
Hi,

Good news. We are now searchable again on coinmarketcap.

Regards,

Mebagger2

Well that's it ?

searchable again?

Better provide indepth info about status of coinexchange!

Minor minor info of coincap




Hi,

Coinexchange was running an older wallet build that didn't contain the transaction code fixes. So there wallet was getting hung on unconfirmed transactions. They are in the process of updating to build b257fcd. Once the upgrade is completed we should be out of maintenance again. This should happen relatively soon. So everyone should take note of this because it seems there are old builds floating around. You should be running not just .13.9.0 but build b257fcd as well. You can find this information in the mooncoin-cli -version output or any of the other binary's version output.

So check you version and update today.

Regards,



Good afternoon. Very good news ! Thank you very much for your efforts !  
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Hi,

Good news. We are now searchable again on coinmarketcap.

Regards,

Mebagger2

Well that's it ?

searchable again?

Better provide indepth info about status of coinexchange!

Minor minor info of coincap




Hi,

Coinexchange was running an older wallet build that didn't contain the transaction code fixes. So there wallet was getting hung on unconfirmed transactions. They are in the process of updating to build b257fcd. Once the upgrade is completed we should be out of maintenance again. This should happen relatively soon. So everyone should take note of this because it seems there are old builds floating around. You should be running not just .13.9.0 but build b257fcd as well. You can find this information in the mooncoin-cli -version output or any of the other binary's version output.

So check you version and update today.

Regards,

hero member
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Hi,

Good news. We are now searchable again on coinmarketcap.

Regards,

Mebagger2
I do not see. Trying to find them but failing. Are you sure that they appeared on coinmarketcap?
yup. its there:
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/

Thanks mebagger!

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