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There are other gambling platforms that didn't get shutdown even though they did not ask for KYC to create an account but they may ask for KYC if a certain gambler is suspicious or a gamble wants to withdraw a huge amount of money. That's what most gambling platform does to avoid money laundering and other breaking rules situation. It would be only less people will gamble if the site does require KYC to create an account just to gamble as some prefer being anonymous that's all.

As crypto users, we are aware that the KYC is one part of the services such as gambling sites, exchanges, and other third parties needed to avoid money laundry. But if we can, we always avoid the gambling site which requires KYC for the members. We are happy because many gambling sites will not require KYC and I am sure that gambling sites will have many loyal members. If one gambling site asks about KYC, we can move to the other site which does not ask KYC and we do not have to worry because we will find a way to play gambling without verifying our account.

The nice thing is that we have one of the best iGaming Lawyers on our side, who will advise us on how we can optimize the user experience while still respecting the license. We will do whatever we can to make sure that players are safe, secure and can easily access the site, but also ensuring that those who have invested in the project can trust that our platform will always be in good standing.

That is good. But you need to be aware of the government's regulation where your site is because they will always want to force what they want on any business. Maybe in the future, they want to ask you to include the KYC on your site so they can know who your customers are.

But I believe that you will work for your customers and will not disappoint them because you know how to treat your customers better.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on August 04, 2021, 03:55:20 PM

There are other gambling platforms that didn't get shutdown even though they did not ask for KYC to create an account but they may ask for KYC if a certain gambler is suspicious or a gamble wants to withdraw a huge amount of money. That's what most gambling platform does to avoid money laundering and other breaking rules situation. It would be only less people will gamble if the site does require KYC to create an account just to gamble as some prefer being anonymous that's all.

As crypto users, we are aware that the KYC is one part of the services such as gambling sites, exchanges, and other third parties needed to avoid money laundry. But if we can, we always avoid the gambling site which requires KYC for the members. We are happy because many gambling sites will not require KYC and I am sure that gambling sites will have many loyal members. If one gambling site asks about KYC, we can move to the other site which does not ask KYC and we do not have to worry because we will find a way to play gambling without verifying our account.

The nice thing is that we have one of the best iGaming Lawyers on our side, who will advise us on how we can optimize the user experience while still respecting the license. We will do whatever we can to make sure that players are safe, secure and can easily access the site, but also ensuring that those who have invested in the project can trust that our platform will always be in good standing.

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It seems a promising project but I invested to a lot of ICO's before and I think listing it on exchange first would be much safer rather than buying it during ICO phase even though most of the time buying in ICO is much cheaper and there's some kind of great deals.

Anyway about the KYC are they going to ask that to the investor or holder of their coin? if yes that will bring a problem since most of the people are here doesn't really like that.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on August 04, 2021, 03:55:20 PM

There are other gambling platforms that didn't get shutdown even though they did not ask for KYC to create an account but they may ask for KYC if a certain gambler is suspicious or a gamble wants to withdraw a huge amount of money. That's what most gambling platform does to avoid money laundering and other breaking rules situation. It would be only less people will gamble if the site does require KYC to create an account just to gamble as some prefer being anonymous that's all.

As crypto users, we are aware that the KYC is one part of the services such as gambling sites, exchanges, and other third parties needed to avoid money laundry. But if we can, we always avoid the gambling site which requires KYC for the members. We are happy because many gambling sites will not require KYC and I am sure that gambling sites will have many loyal members. If one gambling site asks about KYC, we can move to the other site which does not ask KYC and we do not have to worry because we will find a way to play gambling without verifying our account.

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I wonder how many people still invest in ICOs. I thought the ICO market was pretty much dead by the end of 2019, and yet here we are in the middle of 2021 Cheesy

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Yeah I also work with good ICO's before and so far some of them work so good even by now. The only problem is those new one build and use the word ICO since for the past couple of years almost all of them scam their investors so no wonder that they will fail especially if they advertise their project here since many now are aware about the scamming happening so maybe the other good project who conduct an ICO will fail due to its reputation.

ICO reputation is tainted due to those scam that we do have in the past and i cant really blamed out people on having this kind of impression.This is why its really hard to trust up on making investment

and just looking into the image into their site on how the site could potentially look like then its hard to tell on just seeing the front page.

We do love to see new Sportsbook and at the same time a Casino or simply having both to have at least have some option but taking this competition would really be hard.

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There are other gambling platforms that didn't get shutdown even though they did not ask for KYC to create an account but they may ask for KYC if a certain gambler is suspicious or a gamble wants to withdraw a huge amount of money. That's what most gambling platform does to avoid money laundering and other breaking rules situation. It would be only less people will gamble if the site does require KYC to create an account just to gamble as some prefer being anonymous that's all.

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Quote from: MoonbetEcosystem on August 03, 2021, 01:05:00 PM

Not having KYC in a gambling site is a very good way to get shut down. I've been in the industry since 2009 and not having proper protocols for KYC and AML means that at virtually anytime, your license can be revoked or your assets can be frozen if a regulator believes you have been assisting in money laundering.

Of course it is an inconvenience and we would prefer to not include it, but these are the things that we need to live with as a licensed gaming operator.

Depends on what you are talking about in "shutdown", sure maybe it will be "banned" in some nations, but if you do your own servers, and get the domain in proper places, I can guarantee you that you will be staying available forever. The thing about KYC is to be as legit as it gets and as safe and secure as it can become, that is the reason, not shutdown reasons. Hell there are darknets where illegal stuff happens, which shows you that it is actually not that weird to have a casino without KYC because it is not THAT illegal at least.

However would you prefer to be a place with KYC and a lot of legality and sponsorship in big places type of deal, or would you rather be a casino that runs away from officials as much as possible? Of course not, so everyone "prefers" that their legality would be there and it would definitely be something more understandable.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on August 03, 2021, 11:59:08 AM

12 days until the platform is launched, does this still want to continue the ICO program? what is said above is true. They barely agreed to launch the site and were accompanied by the ICO. most will end up not very pleasant.
Avoid KYC requests, again avoid, because obviously a lot of people don't like them. We recommend that gambling sites can be accessed easily and do not burden users with KYC rules. They don't like to give their privacy to gambling sites.

Not having KYC in a gambling site is a very good way to get shut down. I've been in the industry since 2009 and not having proper protocols for KYC and AML means that at virtually anytime, your license can be revoked or your assets can be frozen if a regulator believes you have been assisting in money laundering.

Of course it is an inconvenience and we would prefer to not include it, but these are the things that we need to live with as a licensed gaming operator.

Yet there are many gambling sites that is not implementing KYC mate.

but if that is the structure of your site then we will respect it but don't expect much response because we literally hate KYC implementation not unless there is a huge winning and then we will allow and comply.

This was also the case in the mid-2000s when all the offshore betting and poker sites came out. What happened? The Department of Homeland Security came after them for money laundering and KYC issues, freezing their assets and shutting the sites down to leave players with a loss of funds.

While of course no KYC will be more convenient for players in the short-term, it is a necessity to protect the site in the long-term and make sure that the site is not abruptly closed down by overzealous authorities.

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Moonbet sold out their Phase 1 Pre-Sale by raising $295,000 USD, with the ICO just having moved into Phase 2.

For a project that raised this huge amount of money, if this is true, then you should come out with a better and well-designed annoucement thread, even a low budgeted and newly launch gambling site can come out with a better announcement thread, hire a designer it will not cost hundreds of dollars get a copper membership, so your account will become competitive and you mean serious business.

I have a second thoughts on projects who posted, logos of reputable websites without the links that they are really supporting the project.

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Quote from: MoonbetEcosystem on August 03, 2021, 01:05:00 PM

Quote from: Fesatmas on August 03, 2021, 11:59:08 AM

12 days until the platform is launched, does this still want to continue the ICO program? what is said above is true. They barely agreed to launch the site and were accompanied by the ICO. most will end up not very pleasant.
Avoid KYC requests, again avoid, because obviously a lot of people don't like them. We recommend that gambling sites can be accessed easily and do not burden users with KYC rules. They don't like to give their privacy to gambling sites.

Not having KYC in a gambling site is a very good way to get shut down. I've been in the industry since 2009 and not having proper protocols for KYC and AML means that at virtually anytime, your license can be revoked or your assets can be frozen if a regulator believes you have been assisting in money laundering.

Of course it is an inconvenience and we would prefer to not include it, but these are the things that we need to live with as a licensed gaming operator.

Yet there are many gambling sites that is not implementing KYC mate.

but if that is the structure of your site then we will respect it but don't expect much response because we literally hate KYC implementation not unless there is a huge winning and then we will allow and comply.

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Quote from: MoonbetEcosystem on August 03, 2021, 01:05:00 PM

Quote from: Fesatmas on August 03, 2021, 11:59:08 AM

12 days until the platform is launched, does this still want to continue the ICO program? what is said above is true. They barely agreed to launch the site and were accompanied by the ICO. most will end up not very pleasant.
Avoid KYC requests, again avoid, because obviously a lot of people don't like them. We recommend that gambling sites can be accessed easily and do not burden users with KYC rules. They don't like to give their privacy to gambling sites.

Not having KYC in a gambling site is a very good way to get shut down. I've been in the industry since 2009 and not having proper protocols for KYC and AML means that at virtually anytime, your license can be revoked or your assets can be frozen if a regulator believes you have been assisting in money laundering.

Of course it is an inconvenience and we would prefer to not include it, but these are the things that we need to live with as a licensed gaming operator.

Complete nonsense. These criminals in Curacao are only interested in stealing money from taxis. Gambling sites commit crimes against many players but this criminal structure does nothing to protect consumers.

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 03, 2021, 08:29:23 AM

Maybe the least they can do if they conduct AMA or maybe show some any valid points which can convince people to trust their platform but since the ICO craze is totally over maybe for running this plan they will fail to reach their target since as I say for sure many of us are aware about the reputation of the ICO,IDO or IEO. Also we really need to do a deep look before investing since we cannot retrieve back our money if we get scam and it really hurt to exchange our hard earned money for a token with no value so we need to do extra careful when investing.

Self-doxxing is something that few projects actually do to show they mean serious business. It is not really 100% foul proof neither but let's be honest it is better than being anonymous at least. If I see few people from the team showing who they are on a video conference type of thing, their names, their nationality, their face, a whole video basically with them in it, then don't you think it is a lot more secure? That could be done like some Live AMA type of thing, or it could be basically them explaining what it is type of video as well.

It doesn't really matter what the topic will be, it could basically be just them speaking all day about the last nights' game they watched, as long as they doxx themselves and we know who they are, that should be something a lot better than being anonymous and asking us to just trust few nicknames behind the whole website.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 01, 2021, 11:06:56 AM

it's been the same way actually even with the new projects today it's still ICO that they need to fund their project, they just name it differently today like a private token sale in which only 20% of the tokens are being sent out to the investors. it's just very risky now than it was in 2017 where every ico is funded and listed on the market.

i really don't see this project as different from other dividends casino. been an investor of bethash for a while but casino tokens are not allowed to be listed anymore on exchanges.

Private token sale is a "bit" different, as in it is the investors that get the token and not the project team and that sort of means that project team already has money which shows if they mean anything with that money or not. In that case if the team gets BNB for example and give their own token, it is automatic and the team has zero (usually) of the token, if they take BNB and leave then they leave and they are bad, but if they stay and spend that BNB then they are good.

You can see that, it is obvious and clear and allows you to actually make a good decision a lot easier. Sure you can't do that if you participate in the private token sale because you still do not know if they are good or not, but afterwards you can wait and in a month it is clear if they are good or not.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on August 03, 2021, 11:59:08 AM

12 days until the platform is launched, does this still want to continue the ICO program? what is said above is true. They barely agreed to launch the site and were accompanied by the ICO. most will end up not very pleasant.
Avoid KYC requests, again avoid, because obviously a lot of people don't like them. We recommend that gambling sites can be accessed easily and do not burden users with KYC rules. They don't like to give their privacy to gambling sites.

Not having KYC in a gambling site is a very good way to get shut down. I've been in the industry since 2009 and not having proper protocols for KYC and AML means that at virtually anytime, your license can be revoked or your assets can be frozen if a regulator believes you have been assisting in money laundering.

Of course it is an inconvenience and we would prefer to not include it, but these are the things that we need to live with as a licensed gaming operator.

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 03, 2021, 08:29:23 AM

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 02, 2021, 06:34:18 PM

Still not safe since IDO and IEO still prone to dump, many devs do that when IDO/IEO are booming but I don't think many people will go invest on this options since knowing how manu scams happened here for sure many investor are totally done with this. And since they are doing an ICO for sure this one will fail as ICO craze are now totally done, many are erasing it and declare it as scam.

I'm not sayinh that this is another scam but for me I will avoid any ICO and better go with NFT.

ICO, IDO or IEO are all the same , most are scam and not bringing good outcome to those who trusted their project.
so How OP can prove they are different from others that already exist and exit?

For all who plans to invest and enter this offering , best to make a deep look and make sure that you are ready for what will come because we completely give you all advice.

Maybe the least they can do if they conduct AMA or maybe show some any valid points which can convince people to trust their platform but since the ICO craze is totally over maybe for running this plan they will fail to reach their target since as I say for sure many of us are aware about the reputation of the ICO,IDO or IEO. Also we really need to do a deep look before investing since we cannot retrieve back our money if we get scam and it really hurt to exchange our hard earned money for a token with no value so we need to do extra careful when investing.

We are conducting an AMA tonight at 6pm EST at https://twitch.tv/moonbetofficial for those interested to learn more about the project.

I completely understand the reservations about the project, but I believe those who do choose to invest will be pleasantly surprised once we launch a full Sportsbook, Casino and eSports betting solution that is licensed and offers them 50% profit sharing.

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 03, 2021, 08:29:23 AM

Maybe the least they can do if they conduct AMA or maybe show some any valid points which can convince people to trust their platform but since the ICO craze is totally over maybe for running this plan they will fail to reach their target since as I say for sure many of us are aware about the reputation of the ICO,IDO or IEO. Also we really need to do a deep look before investing since we cannot retrieve back our money if we get scam and it really hurt to exchange our hard earned money for a token with no value so we need to do extra careful when investing.

Even if you do some research about a project sometimes it isn't working as you have thought. I have known a friend where he joined an ICO and after the ICO, I never thought that it survived since there are same platform like the ICO my friend participated. It was an exchange site and as of now, I haven't checked it out but I last saw the price very low and when the trend goes on it also increased which my friend earn profit.

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12 days until the platform is launched, does this still want to continue the ICO program? what is said above is true. They barely agreed to launch the site and were accompanied by the ICO. most will end up not very pleasant.
Avoid KYC requests, again avoid, because obviously a lot of people don't like them. We recommend that gambling sites can be accessed easily and do not burden users with KYC rules. They don't like to give their privacy to gambling sites.

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Quote from: Reatim on August 03, 2021, 05:52:18 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on August 02, 2021, 06:34:18 PM

Still not safe since IDO and IEO still prone to dump, many devs do that when IDO/IEO are booming but I don't think many people will go invest on this options since knowing how manu scams happened here for sure many investor are totally done with this. And since they are doing an ICO for sure this one will fail as ICO craze are now totally done, many are erasing it and declare it as scam.

I'm not sayinh that this is another scam but for me I will avoid any ICO and better go with NFT.

ICO, IDO or IEO are all the same , most are scam and not bringing good outcome to those who trusted their project.
so How OP can prove they are different from others that already exist and exit?

For all who plans to invest and enter this offering , best to make a deep look and make sure that you are ready for what will come because we completely give you all advice.

Maybe the least they can do if they conduct AMA or maybe show some any valid points which can convince people to trust their platform but since the ICO craze is totally over maybe for running this plan they will fail to reach their target since as I say for sure many of us are aware about the reputation of the ICO,IDO or IEO. Also we really need to do a deep look before investing since we cannot retrieve back our money if we get scam and it really hurt to exchange our hard earned money for a token with no value so we need to do extra careful when investing.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 28, 2021, 07:24:19 AM

ICO? Really? Do you still think this is 2017 or something op? The name of your site sounds shady too. The truth is that almost all crypto investors including me lost interest in ICOs after the 2017 rally since majority ended up as scams or failures.

You should have simply advertised your site in this forum without the ICO stuff in my opinion. All the best op!

I have also the same feeling because those who have suffered huge loss in 2017 with all that ICO market crash don't really like it now and many scams in ICO projects lead to think us when we now hear this word again.Moreover the percentage for now ICO is negligible in market and this is all because of those worse time we have faced.

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 02, 2021, 06:34:18 PM

Still not safe since IDO and IEO still prone to dump, many devs do that when IDO/IEO are booming but I don't think many people will go invest on this options since knowing how manu scams happened here for sure many investor are totally done with this. And since they are doing an ICO for sure this one will fail as ICO craze are now totally done, many are erasing it and declare it as scam.

I'm not sayinh that this is another scam but for me I will avoid any ICO and better go with NFT.

ICO, IDO or IEO are all the same , most are scam and not bringing good outcome to those who trusted their project.
so How OP can prove they are different from others that already exist and exit?

For all who plans to invest and enter this offering , best to make a deep look and make sure that you are ready for what will come because we completely give you all advice.

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