Topic: More From "The Religion Of Peace": Pakistan mob kills woman, girls...... (Read 2300 times)

Okay, I got it, and will give him credit for that, then.

Well, basically Islam is a belief set that dates from back when life and survival and prosperity was a zero sum game...you and your fiefdom take over the next fiefdom.  To do that you have to be crazier than them, more willing to die in battle.  That's how we define a successful culture historically, there ain't nothing nice about it.

But what about people who read more than one book?

It's worth mentioning that this sort of thing is not condoned by the Koran, which notes that "people of the book", Christians and Jews, should be allowed to live peaceably as long as the pay loot to the rulers.

But once you have some people, eg women, considered more as property than human, then all kinds of stuff go.

Now where are those Predator drones when you need them?

http://madworldnews.com/muslims-just-made-history-mosul-killing-exiling-every-last-christian/

http://madworldnews.com/250-christian-girls-gang-raped-executed-name-allah/

I think the title says it all.

Strange statement. Other than muslims nobody has that belief that atheists have abandoned child. In fact atheist societies tend to be rational, which means such behaviour may cost you a lot, way more than being married.

You got me wrong.

What you said is exactly what I tried to convey. You could see how the muslims there had killing in their eyes and how they were scared talking ill about their religion. How they mumbled when faced direct question calling out their bullshit.

Otherwise, Maher isn't a coward or a punk, he did help, at least for me, to see what a dark religious islam really is.

He isn't the only one btw, lots of videos where you see muslims getting interviewed you can see how they go numb when facing questions that might show in dark light islam.

A lot of muslims enable and support the sick behaviour of the more extreme ones.

That was shocking, how could they pay that amount. If I was a muslim I will convert to Christian or Atheist you can have limitless sex partner or having different child with different mother without the need to marry one.

Really?  You believe that?

Maher cowtows to Muslims because otherwise they'll threaten to kill him or bomb him and places that carry his work.  He knows it's safe to insult Christians and Jews.  You're looking not at natural responses, but an orchestrated performance.

Maher's a punk and a coward.

An hour and fourty minutes of Maher, the idea just makes me want to puke.

1 hour 40 min?! Takes to not have a life to watch it! And it's that runtime in 'America mode', which stands for think about people with Alzheimer and repeat the same thing every couple of minutes.
How about the same program at mecca? Oh!... he can't get there :p

I would recommend you all to watch this movie (if you haven't)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2zhlDbMfDg

And note how differently the muslims there react as opposed to the Jews and Christians (who just outright made themselves silly).

It's like... Just watch it.

Under Islam everybody is a victim...
But that one must about Hindus in India, those are the ones making the most expensive weddings... usually with a debt for life price tag attached.

Imagine my shock when I was reading the National Geographic which said men in that area of the world, who only make a $1000 dollars are year, are borrowing $10K to $50K for their weddings!

It was one of the most perplexed things when Muslims are typically portrayed as alpha woman haters but, in reality...  it's more that they're just as much victims of their society as the women can be.  

Notice how we haven't seen a single post from any people of Muslim faith coming in here and condemning this behavior.  A few posters are criticizing others for judging everybody based on the actions of a rowdy crowd, but nobody has condemned the act.  Does it say somewhere in the book that you cannot speak ill of others of the faith?

Yep, killing people for having a mind of their own seems pretty extreme to me.

20% are fanatic enough to think human bombs are justified, but 63% are fanatic enough to think anyone leaving Islam should be killed.
So I've to say 63% of them, and not 20%, take their religion seriously.

...muslims

Only 20% take their religion seriously.  We make this same excuse for feminists; a minority are "radicals", the rest are "normal", but when you consider the principles of each, of just how insane it is to believe in an imaginary deity and devil, it's easy to see that fanaticism is a prerequisite to being a part of said groups; those who lack this fanaticism either avoid the religion, or if they were raised with it, leave it when safe.  We shouldn't condemn those who actually try to adhere to the religion in question, as this minimizes the role that the other "normal" followers play in supporting those who take it seriously; we should view the group as a cohesive whole, an ecosystem of fanatics who help the minority of people doing as the group wills, and condemn them all for their role in wrongdoings, both religions and governments (alas, I repeat myself.)

Theo van Gogh was a victim of the Dutch extreme-left, which bought people with extremist views (especially from countries such as Pakistan, Somalia and Morocco) to the Netherlands. Even people who were convicted of inciting hatred were given refugee status.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director)

What gets me is that when you criticize a religion for something (and I mean a specific religion such as Islam, not religion in general) people get all up in arms like you've done something aweful and you are a dispicable  human being - as if religion should be beyond criticism or as if you are somehow being racist and just insulting a group of people rather than critiquing an idea.

But if an idea or practice is harmful or ignorant the fact that its part of a religion shouldn't mean we leave it alone - it should mean we are even quicker to face it because the relgious fervour will only make it even more dangerous.

Also I really don't buy this 'its only a tiny minority' line because even though it may be a minority who explicitly agree with the fundamentalists, the majority are creating a climate in which that minority can thrive, recruit and be protected - so they cannot be absolved of all blame. The majority are practicing and promoting something which inspires cruelty and violence in others, even if their own innate human compassion keeps them from taking that path themselves.

Islam, like Judaism, teaches its followers that they are more important than others and explicitly tells them to, at the very least, treat non-muslims unequally (actually in many places of the Koran its more about murdering us, but still) but yet I am expected to treat someone as an equal who does not consider me to be an equal? I'm sorry, but no.