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April 24, 2017, 04:06:51 AM
#9
Even though most of the homeless people became homeless due to drug abuse and other factors there are others who became homeless due to the fact that they didn't pay their mortgages and others are military personnel who through PTSD and the horrors of war became homeless. I think the government should help with these two groups
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April 24, 2017, 03:19:43 AM
#8
I don't think that it's the government's fault why they are homeless. Maybe a part of it (not being able to accommodate everyone). The more at fault is the person himself or herself because they won't land there if it weren't probably for their bad decisions. If you grew up being in poverty, it would be hard to get away with it, but if you do good to people, you would eventually get out of it.
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April 24, 2017, 02:19:10 AM
#7
In the United States, if you look at the homeless people, then you will find that for most of them the condition was caused as a result of drug addiction, gambling, mental illness.etc. The government can't do much in these cases.
That is in united states how about other countries especially third world countries and developing and underdeveloped currencies in Africa. The government are the major curse of people suffering today. Most of the leaders loot the countries treasury and spent the nation assets In under to remain in power why they countries men are home and live in poverty.
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April 24, 2017, 01:13:23 AM
#6
Crime and poverty will always exist but a government that is too big to be supported by its population will being to become a burden and this is basically the case for almost any government in the world also one of the issues is that governments get bigger but they never get smaller unless a crisis strikes.
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April 24, 2017, 01:07:28 AM
#5
Are poverty and crime caused by government over-spending and over-hiring?
If a state employee wins $80,000 a year does that mean a non-state entity must lose $80,000?





Iceland population: 332,529
200 Deployed military personnel (60 per 100,000)
805 Police employees (242 per 100,000)
200 estimated homeless on any given night (60 per 100,000)
124 prisoners (37 per 100,000)

Canada population: 35,160,000
68,000 full-time troops in uniform (193 per 100,000)
69,438 active police officers (198 per 100,000)
36,000 estimated homeless on any given night (102 per 100,000)
41,049 prisoners (117 per 100,000)

USA population: 318,900,000
1,429,995 enlisted military personnel (448 per 100,000)
1,100,000 full-time law enforcement officers (345 per 100,000)
500,000 estimated homeless on any given night (157 per 100,000)
2,220,300 prisoners (696 per 100,000)





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Iceland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Police
http://www.prisonstudies.org/country/iceland
http://icelandreview.com/news/2013/10/17/200-people-homeless-reykjavik

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Armed_Forces
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Canada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Canada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Canada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States

That will be not the case since the creation of positions is based on a computation on a given population. If the population of a certain country increases the need for human resource such as on protective services and other welfare services must also be increased to support the needs of the populace. Though the salary of these government personnel are coming from the taxes but if there are no personnel in the government how will these taxes be serviced to the taxpayers.
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April 24, 2017, 12:59:28 AM
#4
Are poverty and crime caused by government over-spending and over-hiring?
If a state employee wins $80,000 a year does that mean a non-state entity must lose $80,000?


Partially the major recruiters tend to either be the Private Sector or the Government
If the government is taking in to many jobs that leaves less money for the private sector in a sense and less job opportunities if you can't a government approved job.

If your country can get away with lower military spending the stats do change as well look at Japan's as an example.


Japan population: 127.3 million (2013)
Japan   (47 per 100,000) Incarcerated
Homeless (Net Cafe) 10 in 100,000
One person for every 10,000 city inhabitants.
197 per 100000 police officers in 2006 (?) Old Data

http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/list_of_countries_by_number_of_police_officers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan#Population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_cafe_refugee
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April 24, 2017, 12:49:37 AM
#3
In the United States, if you look at the homeless people, then you will find that for most of them the condition was caused as a result of drug addiction, gambling, mental illness.etc. The government can't do much in these cases.
hero member
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April 23, 2017, 09:53:32 PM
#2
Basically, yes.

The moment government expands its powers beyond certain degree, it stops being tool and start to be master and parasite on its host population.

The worst thing is, that now emasculated people demand that problems created by government be corrected by even more government. You can see where that leads on countries such as Sweden or France, which used to be rich but nowadays resemble more and more third world. Vast majority of establishment energy is focused on redistributing even more capital from working class (ie. in those two countries taxation actually exceeded 50% long time ago) and fighting each other for the nutriet rich carcass.

In many developed countries, truly rich, industrial men that used to be seen as paramounts and ideals are these days legally "homeless" to prevent state officials from taking away their earned possesions. And majority of people still dont have problem with that, since they were conditioned, that it doesnt matter they are dependant on government hand outs (paid for by them ironically with drakonian taxes), it only matters that their neighbour is better off.

TL,DR. Government is good minion, but terrible master. World of Bernie Sanders is quite dark place.
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April 23, 2017, 09:33:53 PM
#1
Are poverty and crime caused by government over-spending and over-hiring?
If a state employee wins $80,000 a year does that mean a non-state entity must lose $80,000?





Iceland population: 332,529
200 Deployed military personnel (60 per 100,000)
805 Police employees (242 per 100,000)
200 estimated homeless on any given night (60 per 100,000)
124 prisoners (37 per 100,000)

Canada population: 35,160,000
68,000 full-time troops in uniform (193 per 100,000)
69,438 active police officers (198 per 100,000)
36,000 estimated homeless on any given night (102 per 100,000)
41,049 prisoners (117 per 100,000)

USA population: 318,900,000
1,429,995 enlisted military personnel (448 per 100,000)
1,100,000 full-time law enforcement officers (345 per 100,000)
500,000 estimated homeless on any given night (157 per 100,000)
2,220,300 prisoners (696 per 100,000)





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Iceland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Police
http://www.prisonstudies.org/country/iceland
http://icelandreview.com/news/2013/10/17/200-people-homeless-reykjavik

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Armed_Forces
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Canada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_Canada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Canada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States
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