Topic: More Support for Covid as Engineered Financial Reset (Read 234 times)

If the world comes to believe the virus was man-made and deliberately released, if it comes to that, the West will fight to make sure only China is blamed.  There's a reasonable expectation of success here, since a segment of the West already believe this is a Chinese bio-weapon.  Also, China doesn't control the international mainstream media.

(We have heard many stories of China's 'malign' actions and influence; how many people are aware of the narrative that China's rise was allowed to happen by the global elites of the time because it helped prop up Western money and financial assets?  How many people are aware of China's major role in support of the world system immediately after the 2008 crisis?  How many people are aware of the narrative that a hostile China is a major threat to Western asset values and power, thus the West has every incentive to attack China?)

OK, let's say this fails.  The world now believes the West worked with China to release the virus.  Even this would be survivable, and I'd say easily so, by the deep state.

(BTW, we have proof of the deep state's existence.  Presidential candidate Senator Elizabeth Warren has publicized that former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers once asked her if she wanted to be an insider or outsider.  As an insider, she would have help but would only be able to say certain things.  As an outsider, she could say anything she wanted but would be on her own.  What this must mean is that there is a club whose membership is well-defined, who put loyalty to each other above professed beliefs.  Also, such a club can't function without a top-down leadership and coherent agenda based on final decisions.  Such agendas are, of course, secret.)

The revelation (as undesirable as it would be from the deep state's perspective) would be survivable because the crime can always be blamed on individuals and groups, rather than the system as a whole.  The Great Depression was blamed on bankers and speculators.  World War II was blamed on fascists; no mention was made of the West's desire to suppress and deprive Germany (via war reparations during the interwar years) in order to solidify that the US, and not Germany, would inherit Britain's world leadership and financial bubble.  The Great Recession from 2008 was blamed on a combination of bankers, home buyers, and certain public-sector officials.

Indeed, that's how the modern system works.  Dirty work is 'outsourced' to parties who would take the blame when worst comes to worst (and in most cases it won't come close to that.)  The system as a whole is not known by the majority, never mind blamed.

If this is the cost, the benefit of a controlled financial reset, blamed on a virus, would seem to be worth it to the leadership of the deep state.

The rivalry between the US and China is real, and in fact probably the overriding factor over how the world will look in the next decades.

The collaboration on the virus doesn't need a true alliance.  It is in the interest of both parties, since both countries need a financial reset.  We saw the two countries trying to accuse each other over the virus, earlier in the outbreak.  This is a sign that the collaboration was only a marriage of convenience and can break down.

The collaboration was protected by the dominance of the theory that the virus was natural.  Once that is debunked, we'll see what happens.

But we just gotta take a break from work. Except if our work is rioting. Then we have no fear of Covid whatsoever.


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We would need independent research to confirm such findings, but China locked it's country off. There are no western scientist allowed the research the outbreak of COVID-19. I don't think it's likely that USA and China worked together on a virus. Imagine there would be real proof of such collaboration, the president would be finished. USA is democratic nation while China is controlled by the communist party. Don't want to be the pessimist here, but why would USA destroy it's own country with a virus? They are affected the most, while China is doing pretty good. We should wait for concrete proof coming out. Just remember the Iraq invasion and the claim of Weapons Mass Destruction, it took a while but the public found out eventually.

i do not believe that covid was 'engineered'
however a global financial reset would have been inevitable in the next decade or less anyway. so a financial reset oppertunity came about to hide it within a natural crisis to then blame nature, and take the blame away from the politicians/economists

2 birds 1 stone

The Indonesian government once found that the bird flu virus was developed by the United States in the NAMRU laboratory. In addition, there is an observer who states that Fauci is the person behind the biological warfare scenario. He was there and played in 6 presidents of America. It was found that the covid 19 virus has an enrichment element that affects the immunity of the victim like the elements in the aids virus. Fauci was familiar with the SARS, AIDS, and Covid 19 outbreaks.

China is not the most beneficiary from this virus, it's just that China is better prepared to face Covid because of the initial information is obtained from its intelligence and experience from the bird flu pandemic in 2003. Can we analyze who benefited the most from the pandemic? namely the global pharmaceutical elite and its donors, namely the globalists.

The theory that this was engineered in a lab has been going around since late January and early February, with some of the articles already taken down due to misinformation. Even the Lancet has suggested against the idea, which is kinda surprising since they sometimes are the ones who digs deeper on the hole first before anyone else does. Several US Senators also don't want to 'point fingers' hastily on China since they think that that wouldn't be too nice.

Now with the emergence of a  'rogue scientist' from China, Dr. Li-Meng Yen, we may now have a closer look on how natural the virus really is. News flash: early findings show that it isn't, and the prevous SARS-CoV template may have been used to alter it and enhance the vector of infection of the virus even further by editing some of the proteins responsible for binding on our ACE2 receptors. Resulting product is an even infectious and stealthier virus than its predecessors.

If the collaboration is really true, then all of these aggression from China and the US fending off the bullies is just stage play to make it seem like they don't really like each other. A perfect cover-up, I should say, since no one is suspecting up until the dots are connected very recently.

I remember too the story the media was pushing.  Come to think of it, if 'everything' was not super fine, then we couldn't blame 'everything' on the virus.

Check out the Epsilon Theory site.  Ben Hunt et al are professional investors who are trying to make a science, not of how to learn the truth by listing to the media (good luck on that!) but of how to learn certain truths by observing what stories the media is trying to push, and thereby getting an advantage.

We now have direct evidence that the virus was engineered in a lab, in the form of a published paper by Dr Li-Meng Yan, open to peer review from around the world.

The interesting question is: why did establishment Western scientists argue so hard that the virus was natural?  And even more interesting: why did the entire Western mainstream media allow only that side of the argument to air?  Who have that kind of power?

On almost any issue, the West doesn't defend China.  Why do it now?  And on such an important issue?  Maybe revealing China as the engineer of the virus gets one step closer to the truth, and the truth is that the West and China collaborated on the virus?  (E.g. we know for sure Fauci himself has been involved in 'gain of function' research supported jointly by US and Chinese government labs, ie looking into how we can make viruses more transmittable, etc.)

Who knows, if China is made to look guilty, it will reveal evidence that the West was involved?

Anyway, as I said, the paper is open to peer review.  Oh, wait, sorry, but Twitter just suspended Dr Yan's account from where she published the link to the paper.  Oops.

Surely, the entire Western establishment can't be afraid of the writings of a 'rogue Chinese scientist?'

That's possible too. Maybe the US and China both are responsible.

If you examine the other big financial crises you'll see they always happened when the economy was at its peak.

I very well remember at the beginning of this year the unemployed numbers for the US was record low. Everything was super fine.

Check this out:


https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm

This picture right above probably has all the information you need to know about the economy. It is the best TA that's been created.

2020 needed a pin to blow this bigbubble and somehow covid19 was it.

This graph above will be even more violent next time... if there is a next time.

I think, not all countries will support this financial reset, country like China would not like to participate in this financial Reset.
According to some researcher, came to discovered that some countries are in competition, who is the most powerful country in the world. Corona virus has kill some many people in the world, which some country has found solution gradually while  some their cases is still increasing day by day with the virus.
Trump is looking for a way to find solution to the covid-19 cases that is increasing everyday and, so that, it  will not affect his re-election that is coming up.

The whole world is already aware that there is a certain deadly virus that have started in Wuhan, China which makes it the ground zero of the spread of virus. It is just that the threat have been disregarded by different countries around the world and did not have that coordination with the departments concerning health related issues that is why the virus have spread. Even here in our country, our government are already aware that there is such existing new strain of virus but it was neglected and the spread have been underestimated stating that such threat could be manageable but it is not. The strict protocols have not been early implemented on foreign affairs relations to avoid the spread of virus that can be potentially be brought by a carrier coming from a place where there is an infection that is already recorded.

I think this was not engineered to make a financial reset. It just so happen that the world government did not act early before the spread of virus got worst. Anyway, there is nothing to blame with since we are already at this situation. Such issues are still theories and allegations against China if they have really made up such virus.

But didn't the mainstream media, Fauci, Pelosi, etc. basically go with Trump's program (ie minimal response?)  As I said, they might have been better at covering for themselves, by saying 'this may get worse,' but basically no important person or group made enough of a stink.  And we're not even talking about attempting to change policy. We're only talking about trying to appeal to everyday Americans to avoid indoor gathering or to wear masks.  (And Fauci and others even told people not to wear masks.)


If some blogger out there like Chris Martensen knew how serious this was (as he funnily said, armed with a $100/month budget for internet access,)  you don't think the intelligence services and the connections of the media and politicians knew?  Even the average person could see people dying on the streets of Wuhan in the news.  Somehow, no one in a position of power or influence in major Western countries thought to try to contain the virus early, and to avoid economically costly lock-downs.


IMO conspiracy theories exist because there are conspiracies.

Thanks for mentioning this.  Same here.

No, I don't see a global currency either, and for the same reason, plus, a global, centrally controlled money would be a clumsy way for the top globalists to dominate the world by controlling its money.  (E.g. the IMF's fiat-based Special Drawing Rights never amounted to anything close to global money.)  The 400-year history of the modern imperial system has always seen the dominant centralized money being nationally based, where patriotism in that country can be utilized to justify aggressive actions to help prop up that money.

However, it's possible that the basic global reserves will be a set of decentralized monies, in effect if not in name.  I say 'in effect' because the management of exchange rates between centralized and decentralized monies may be hidden, but effectively be the same thing as a flexible version of the gold standard, or whatever-standard.  For example, devaluation of centralized money can be done via a fast and furious 'market rally' of the decentralized monies that looks like a bubble and goes past the target future rate, so that, over those future years, the decentralized monies will be made to lose ground gradually, as long as the system stays stable.  Gold has been 'managed' this way since 1971, and this has been not essentially different from the old gold standard, even though the narrative fed to the public is completely different.


Agreed, but wiping out or reducing the heavy debt levels today will have to be a major feature of the reset, no matter what.  You could even say this is the point of the exercise.  There are many ways of doing it, and it needs not be a 100% cleanup.  If the new supports for the system will tolerate the remaining debt well (say, the remaining value after a massive inflation,) then that debt might stay.

Again, agreed.  Cashlessness will be such a powerful tool for future financial repression (negative interest rates making standard monetary policy possible around the zero-rate point,) that it's hard to see it missing from the Great Reset.

I fantasize about a scenario where the current US dollar is massively printed, while the Fed issues a new, blockchain based electronic dollar.  The exchange rate between the old and new dollars will 'float in the marketplace.'  Over time, the old dollar is gradually killed by massive devaluation, but at a controlled speed.  Since most of today's debt is denominated in the old dollar, this will in effect wipe out most debt as well.  It's the new dollar whose exchange rates against decentralized monies will be 'managed.'  I hope I've not missed anything important here, but don't know.

I assume that the COVID-19 pandemic will generate a momentum "you are on your own". In the name of the national threat and to protect the interests of the state, there are many emergency decisions and actions that can be taken by the state, to save the condition of its people. So each country can reset within the scope of their authority.

To reset the global economy. It is not America or China that can do it but the groups that control the world, more precisely the bankers who have controlled the world's wealth long before the dollar became the single currency. Only those who own and create the system can reset the system. Those in the system can only carry out a revolution even though the success rate is very small. A system reset is a repetition of a certain period caused by malfunctions of parts of the system, in different ways. As long as there are conventional banks, the bank interest system, as well as the stock and commodity markets, the system reset will always occur, due to over production and speculative actions.

There's no need for any agreement.  A reset greatly benefits all countries' elites, since all countries are financially unstable in a fundamental sense.  (See my last reply.)  All that's needed is some degree of co-ordination, with each step benefiting the party that takes it.

What we've seen was that, at first, the West covered for China by arguing strenuously that the virus was natural.  As more evidence came out that it is not, and with possibly new conflicts brewing, which put pressure on any co-operation, the tune was changed.  A good portion of the Western elites (Trump and the Republicans, etc.) started saying the virus was made in a Chinese lab (but still maintaining, at least for now, that the release was probably accidental.)  For its part, the Chinese began circulating theories that Americans brought the virus to China.  This is all to be expected.


If you're trying to say early containment is simply impossible, the excellent results in Eastern European countries, South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. seem to contradict that.  Certainly their containment is not 100%, but if most Western countries and China had been able to achieve even a fraction of what they have, there would be a lot fewer deaths and sick.

On the other hand, the fact that no major Western country has been able to contain the disease early seems to indicate deliberate failure, since these are not fundamentally weaker countries, compared to the above.


Correct.  But short of being a fly on the wall in some important conversion (which itself might be spoken in code only,) we'll have to deal with circumstantial evidence.  I'm saying that such evidence is overwhelming, if you look at how everyone who was important or had a big audience basically allowed Trump and China to say this is no big deal, and basically allowed the virus to get into their countries.  (This when some blogger like Chris Martensen had enough information to determine this was serious and everyone needed to protect themselves.)


Again, a fundamental reset like this will fundamentally favor elites of all countries.

I think the alerts from major players like the World Health Organization, China and the USA did not work properly and in a timely manner.

China seems to be struggling alone with its problem without warning of an unknown and dangerous virus in time.
I did not see the red alert from China to warn other countries.

USA the most affected country, Trump minimized the danger of the virus. Because we have already realized that Covid19 is devastating. We still haven't gotten out of it and we're already seeing a second wave being created.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-51839944

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic by World Health Organization

March 11, 2020

I'm really glad you asked these questions, as you're probably not alone.

By global financial reset, in very general terms, I meant that the values of financial assets (money, debt, equity, real estate, etc.) and the values of real wealth (goods and services) have to come back together.  Since the last big reset (Great Depression and World War II,) the rich and powerful have issued far too many financial assets (because they are the biggest beneficiaries of this issuance.)  At current prices, there is far too much financial asset wealth, compared to real wealth.  But the financial assets are simply a claim on real wealth, nothing more.  So this is like a theater having issued many more tickets than there are seats for a show.

To keep their system stable, the elites have found it necessary to take a lot of ad hoc action (such as bailing out banks) that ended up creating financial instability, inequality, etc.  There's only so much you can do with tricks, and ultimately, the two values have to come back together to enable long-term stability.

Since any reset must be one or more of: financial asset values coming down (default/deflation,) goods and services prices going up (inflation), plus possibly other unpleasant policies and outcomes, it would be nice to have something to blame for the pain and turmoil of the reset.  As for the dollar, many things are possible, but my guess is that it will still be the best fiat currency, after a big devaluation against gold, silver, Bitcoin, etc.

It's not that the elites want such a reset, it's that they must have it.  An uncontrolled crash of financial assets would not only be likely even more painful, but would also point the blame directly at the design of the world system.  We can't have that, can we?

BTW, the theme of next year's World Economic Forum at Davos has been decided for a while now: 'The Great Reset.'  So, it's official.

Here's a bit more information...  in Jan. and Feb. the mainstream media was as guilty as Trump in spreading the 'this is no problem' story.  A sampling of story titles:

- USA Today, Feb. 1: 'Coronavirus is scary, but the flu is deadlier, more widespread' by Megan Henry and Grace Hauck.

- MarketWatch, Jan. 30 opinion: 'For now, the flu is a bigger risk than coronavirus'

- Los Angeles Times, Jan. 31: 'For Americans, flu remains a bigger threat than coronavirus' by Soumya Karlamangla.

So again I ask, was it not the top Western establishment that wanted the virus to be an issue?

Not really.  Trump is a fucking idiot to begin with (although he's a brilliant businessman) and at the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak he just gave reassuring words to the public and sort of poo-poo'ed the whole situation.  And remember, in the early days the information that was coming out was that the average person would only get cold-like symptoms if they got infected and it was only later that the public started reacting to COVID-19 as if it were ebola.

Not necessarily.  The COVID-19 strain is a novel one, which means that it's new.  If people start getting infected with a brand new virus (or a new strain of an old virus in this case), how is anyone supposed to have complete information about all the variables that a politician would need to know in order to make policies and use resources to combat the outbreak?  Acquisition of that information takes time.

Fauci knows more about coronavirus, viruses in general, and anything to do with human health than Trump does--so yeah, he probably knew more than Trump in the beginning but he still had to learn how this novel virus operated.

I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist, and I don't think COVID-19 was an engineered attack on anybody's part.  I reserve the right to change my mind if new information comes out, though.