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Quote from: TraderCal11 on December 12, 2016, 01:14:30 PM

I have many bitcoins I'm wanting to cash out, but I'm debating whether I should do it for gold, or for USD. The possibility of the bitcoin price crashing scares me, whereas it seems impossible for gold to lose all value.

What do you hold the bulk of your wealth in?

I think the best currency to save on your money it's US dollar, because if we look at local currencies, they have a big chance of crashing down. In a current situation the most stable are US dollar and Euro maybe gold are good investment also, but gold price can change fastly and maybe you will have some issues with checking the price of it everyday, if something happend to fiat currency you get informed by everything

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Well my best opinion to that matter is when you are concerned about the volatility of Bitcoin the best and stable way to put your money is on Real Estate. Right now real estate or any land property is actually a lot more stable and has a chance to appreciate more than any currency in the market today, by picking up the right location and price not only will your money be safe but it also has a lot of space to grow. If you don't have that much Bitcoin to be converted in Fiat I suggest that you put your money in stocks of Big Corporations. Others might call these stocks as "Bluechips" in which people who put money in to these are not looking to profit but for stability and maybe a little steady growth. Either of the two your money will be a lot safer than putting it into gold.

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I would diversify my portofolio personally, with a mix of us dollar, gbp and gold. But surely not with euro. The europe economy is scary, ad i don't feel the days are going to be better ffor europe. Not to say the incoming elections that can have an impact on the european econnomy. Lot of people are waiting to see what's going to happen. Also, you can consider gold, silver, diamond and stock option. Diversity won't kill you in any way

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Quote from: Superways on December 12, 2016, 02:43:21 PM

First of all you should not have to scare about that bitcoin will crash because bitcoin is now going more stronger with each passing day but if you like to cash them out then I will suggest for Gold because it is more stable and everyone want to make it stronger while no one know about the price of USD it can crash any time if any bad decision came out from USA.

You have a point in that matter, And I also agreed that bitcoin will going more stronger even for everyday passing by..And we cannot say what will happen tomorrow, but still much better to be prepare than not prepare or what. I also like gold to invest it, because in gold there is an assurance that the value will increase weekly, and most likely was bitcoin is the best among of them to hold it because of the volatility and anonymity many are befitting it to obtain profit.

I think investing in gold is just the waste of time because the price movement of gold to upward is much slower while the the price of bitcoin is increasing very faster. That is why the traders now like to put their money in bitcoin and gold is only used as ornament.

What's wrong for investing on the gold? If you're not know about the meaning of investment and you must go to the investopedia Cheesy

But most of those gold investors are searching the steady value by the gold itself. So, there will no decrease value like if you save your money on the electronic stuff or another which it will get decrease value everytime.

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Quote from: andrew24p on April 03, 2017, 04:38:43 PM

If you are going to be saving it for a very long period of time, the S&P500 is the best bet. Even if the market tanked you would still over a lifetime make around 8-9 percent a year. Pay your taxes when you cash out, throw it in the S&P and sitback and relax.

SP500 is at all time highs. It's not wise to get in stocks market right now. Anything can happen. There may be a correction or we may be in a major bubble. Take a look at SNAP. There is a freakshow going on there. And TESLA is about to hit 300$ (298.5$ as i'm writing) and with the market cap. of 45.33B$. Ford Motors is 46.26B$ and VW is 72.72B$. Crazy.

Some heads are gonna roll.

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If you are going to be saving it for a very long period of time, the S&P500 is the best bet. Even if the market tanked you would still over a lifetime make around 8-9 percent a year. Pay your taxes when you cash out, throw it in the S&P and sitback and relax.

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Quote from: Rinder on April 03, 2017, 10:03:43 AM

Well at the moment there isnt a stable crypto currencie to hold, soo my advice would be sell your coins and hold the usd dollars until bitcoin does make the split, till that moment you can risk with others altcoins, but all of them are being pumped on the last two weeks, and now some of them are getting back to their normal values

Are you just another fudster sticking around here?

There seems to have been too many folks of this type recently on the forum posting things like this. But you are definitely too late to the party dude, the BU fud campaign is evidently over. No one is going to give a good goddamn about BU anymore, at least, not until they come up with something entirely new. I hope that would be a refreshing change after all, not like the same old dull and boring stuff as before. In short, you're fired!

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Well at the moment there isnt a stable crypto currencie to hold, soo my advice would be sell your coins and hold the usd dollars until bitcoin does make the split, till that moment you can risk with others altcoins, but all of them are being pumped on the last two weeks, and now some of them are getting back to their normal values.

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Quote from: Taki on April 02, 2017, 01:57:00 PM

It looks like you have big money if you are searching the form to hold your capital after cashing out. If you so scare about inflation I suggest you to open a metal bill in a bank for your money and hold it in gold. Gold and bitcoin are alike if to look on it's characteristics, just gold is more known and checked one.

yes no wonder people will have a lot of doubt storing value of money in bitcoin if you have too much money to risk. i personally honestly have that a little doubt when talking about huge amount , everybody will prefer to put in low risk thing like gold isn't it?

bitcoin currently still considered as high risk investment , not yet well known and established currency.

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Quote from: bravehearth0319 on April 03, 2017, 08:45:37 AM

Quote from: Superways on December 12, 2016, 02:43:21 PM

First of all you should not have to scare about that bitcoin will crash because bitcoin is now going more stronger with each passing day but if you like to cash them out then I will suggest for Gold because it is more stable and everyone want to make it stronger while no one know about the price of USD it can crash any time if any bad decision came out from USA.

You have a point in that matter, And I also agreed that bitcoin will going more stronger even for everyday passing by..And we cannot say what will happen tomorrow, but still much better to be prepare than not prepare or what. I also like gold to invest it, because in gold there is an assurance that the value will increase weekly, and most likely was bitcoin is the best among of them to hold it because of the volatility and anonymity many are befitting it to obtain profit.

I think investing in gold is just the waste of time because the price movement of gold to upward is much slower while the the price of bitcoin is increasing very faster. That is why the traders now like to put their money in bitcoin and gold is only used as ornament.

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Quote from: Superways on December 12, 2016, 02:43:21 PM

First of all you should not have to scare about that bitcoin will crash because bitcoin is now going more stronger with each passing day but if you like to cash them out then I will suggest for Gold because it is more stable and everyone want to make it stronger while no one know about the price of USD it can crash any time if any bad decision came out from USA.

You have a point in that matter, And I also agreed that bitcoin will going more stronger even for everyday passing by..And we cannot say what will happen tomorrow, but still much better to be prepare than not prepare or what. I also like gold to invest it, because in gold there is an assurance that the value will increase weekly, and most likely was bitcoin is the best among of them to hold it because of the volatility and anonymity many are befitting it to obtain profit.

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Quote from: Taki on April 02, 2017, 01:57:00 PM

It looks like you have big money if you are searching the form to hold your capital after cashing out. If you so scare about inflation I suggest you to open a metal bill in a bank for your money and hold it in gold. Gold and bitcoin are alike if to look on it's characteristics, just gold is more known and checked one.

It seems that he does and the best thing to do with those bitcoin is just to keep on holding. And he shouldn't be scared with the price of bitcoin or whatever it is making the price of bitcoin unstable. Actually, it's a good thing if he will just keep on holding, it's effortless and he doesn't need to enter a new investment.

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It looks like you have big money if you are searching the form to hold your capital after cashing out. If you so scare about inflation I suggest you to open a metal bill in a bank for your money and hold it in gold. Gold and bitcoin are alike if to look on it's characteristics, just gold is more known and checked one.

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As technology advances, gold with have less and less importance. Today people are ready to spend hundreds of euros/dollars to get the latest smartphone, every year. Soon enough it will be the latest cybernetic implant or life prolonging drug. Gold will not matter.

I do not agree. Gold has always been and will be in price. Even the coolest smartphone in a couple of years will depreciate, and gold will grow in price in the price. Only those who foolishly follow the fashion can put all their money into new gadgets.

Of course the mechanisms for depreciation aren't the same at all. But what matters in the end is what use there is for something. Gold is used in many industrial processes. Still, annual production for these is enough. Gold retains value because people believe in it, not because it has inherent value. In a way it's very similar to Bitcoin

While gold is certainly used in technology, this use is rather limited (in comparison with, say, silver)

Most gold is used as jewelries, i.e. around or a little over 50% of all gold out there. The most of the remaining half is stored in vaults belonging to governments and international organizations. The US and IMF are the largest holders of physical gold. That said, I still wouldn't equal gold and Bitcoin in respect to what gives them value. If we omit the unnecessary complicacy of the subjective theory of value (which is an obvious overkill here), people love gold for its shine and might, while Bitcoin value is purely utilitarian, and, unlike gold, Bitcoin can be easily stripped of this utility. Basically, you can't undo gold, but you certainly can undo Bitcoin. The former would require changing human nature while the latter just a more robust currency to come up that would crowd out Bitcoin in due course

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Quote from: DrPepperJC on April 02, 2017, 06:30:08 AM

Quote from: aesma on April 01, 2017, 06:28:40 AM

As technology advances, gold with have less and less importance. Today people are ready to spend hundreds of euros/dollars to get the latest smartphone, every year. Soon enough it will be the latest cybernetic implant or life prolonging drug. Gold will not matter.

I do not agree. Gold has always been and will be in price. Even the coolest smartphone in a couple of years will depreciate, and gold will grow in price in the price. Only those who foolishly follow the fashion can put all their money into new gadgets.

Of course the mechanisms for depreciation aren't the same at all. But what matters in the end is what use there is for something. Gold is used in many industrial processes. Still, annual production for these is enough. Gold retains value because people believe in it, not because it has inherent value. In a way it's very similar to Bitcoin.

India alone is the reason gold keeps it value. Indians buy 1000 tons of gold each year. They don't use it for anything useful, only to make tons of jewelry they can't wear. The day they stop doing that, gold will crash.

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Quote from: TraderCal11 on December 12, 2016, 01:14:30 PM

I have many bitcoins I'm wanting to cash out, but I'm debating whether I should do it for gold, or for USD. The possibility of the bitcoin price crashing scares me, whereas it seems impossible for gold to lose all value.

What do you hold the bulk of your wealth in?

It's been a while but I hope you make good profits and sold at ATH, the best option for everyone is official currency of your country obviously as you can easily convert and spend it. If you live in USA, US dollar it is, different story for someone who lives in UK or China.
Second : depends on your purpose, for long term savings, gold and land are the best investment. But bitcoin still become good way to saving your wealth too, so divide into some options and you will be fine. So far, I still believe on bitcoin as my future savings, let's wait for another 5 years

That cannot possibly be the best option in general

Since the question seems to be mostly about holding funds and not spending them, converting bitcoins to a local currency can in fact be the worst idea, especially if this currency is set to quickly depreciate over time. And "this" currency actually refers to a majority of fiat currencies existing in the world. Apart from half a dozen top currencies (like the US dollar or Euro), the rest of the pack is given to severely devalue over time, so we are back to square one, i.e. choosing between gold and the US dollar. Personally, I would opt for dividing the proceeds between Swiss francs, US dollars and gold

In my opinion yes it is, I will convert bitcoin into local currency and then purchase gold or buy a land, easier to do than using another currency. If I live in US, maybe will going through the same way. But, how about in UK, China, India, Malaysia > in general, the best option still cash out as their official currency. As OP live in USA, I suggest for US dollar. Grin

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Quote from: Rahar02 on April 02, 2017, 07:42:28 AM

Quote from: TraderCal11 on December 12, 2016, 01:14:30 PM

I have many bitcoins I'm wanting to cash out, but I'm debating whether I should do it for gold, or for USD. The possibility of the bitcoin price crashing scares me, whereas it seems impossible for gold to lose all value.

What do you hold the bulk of your wealth in?

It's been a while but I hope you make good profits and sold at ATH, the best option for everyone is official currency of your country obviously as you can easily convert and spend it. If you live in USA, US dollar it is, different story for someone who lives in UK or China.
Second : depends on your purpose, for long term savings, gold and land are the best investment. But bitcoin still become good way to saving your wealth too, so divide into some options and you will be fine. So far, I still believe on bitcoin as my future savings, let's wait for another 5 years

That cannot possibly be the best option in general

Since the question seems to be mostly about holding funds and not spending them, converting bitcoins to a local currency can in fact be the worst idea, especially if this currency is set to quickly depreciate over time. And "this" currency actually refers to a majority of fiat currencies existing in the world. Apart from half a dozen top currencies (like the US dollar or Euro), the rest of the pack is given to severely devalue over time, so we are back to square one, i.e. choosing between gold and the US dollar. Personally, I would opt for dividing the proceeds between Swiss francs, US dollars and gold

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Quote from: TraderCal11 on December 12, 2016, 01:14:30 PM

I have many bitcoins I'm wanting to cash out, but I'm debating whether I should do it for gold, or for USD. The possibility of the bitcoin price crashing scares me, whereas it seems impossible for gold to lose all value.

What do you hold the bulk of your wealth in?

It's been a while but I hope you make good profits and sold at ATH, the best option for everyone is official currency of your country obviously as you can easily convert and spend it. If you live in USA, US dollar it is, different story for someone who lives in UK or China.
Second : depends on your purpose, for long term savings, gold and land are the best investment. But bitcoin still become good way to saving your wealth too, so divide into some options and you will be fine. So far, I still believe on bitcoin as my future savings, let's wait for another 5 years.

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Quote from: btcdiggingmaster on December 13, 2016, 04:42:57 AM

We need to plan differently here because bitcoin price is keep changing and even with gold also, so don't keep all your eggs at one place. Simply divide your funds and buy what ever you want to convert. That is the best idea because we are unpredictable world so no one knows what is going to happen tomorrow, so plan it wisely convert them into different currency so if one is down you can make profit with other.

Yes, I agree with you. If I have a lot of bitcoin, I will divide it in fiat and the other half is in bitcoin to make my money secure. I will also use 2 to 3 wallet to avoid some hackers or if ever they hacked my wallet, I will not be afraid because I am holding two more funds but next time I will my money more secure. We do not know when the price is going up. Be responsible on holding our money, don't waste into worthless things because we don't know what happens next in the future.

Very precisely. If it does have a lot of btc will be much more beneficial if we could share into several businesses are indeed provide a profit. For if indeed we do not share into some things that indeed increased the number of btc then our lives will never be successful, because by only using BTC with no desire to add to it to make us become malasa in thinking and level of innovation that's been there since birth being lost because it never used

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