Most young Arabs reject Isis and think 'caliphate' will fail

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Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on April 13, 2016, 03:56:04 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on April 12, 2016, 03:55:01 PM

Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on April 12, 2016, 11:15:06 AM

If i have to choose between EU/IMF economic violence and ISIS violence, i choose ISIS.

I know you are a troll but sorry, that was the stupidiest thing I read from you till now. Even if they destroy economic conditions... you still can manage to live. Under ISIS you would either live in constant fear, you would have to adapt or you would be dead already, maybe having cut your head of with a saw or something funny like that.

Maybe you did not really mean it the way I took it though... Roll Eyes

Are you serious? The EU politicians are more dangerous than ISIS, I hope ISIS fuck well the EU.

When I take a look at the living circumstances in IS-controlled areas and compare that to the EU, maybe even greece... then it's not hard to decide that I prefer to live in greece. I had a chance at least.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 12, 2016, 11:42:33 PM

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The vast majority of young Arabs are increasingly rejecting Islamic State and believe the extremist group will fail to establish a caliphate, a poll has found.

of course Arabs will reject ISIS because of their wrong assumption about Islam.
the villain will never be the winner. so will ISIS.

The (Sunni) Arabs are only pretending that they are rejecting the ISIS. The support levels have fallen just because of the military setbacks faced by the ISIS. No one want to support an organization which is likely to be destroyed in the next few months. The Salafist Arabs will then shift their loyalties to some other organization, which will be even more brutal than the ISIS.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on April 12, 2016, 03:55:01 PM

Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on April 12, 2016, 11:15:06 AM

If i have to choose between EU/IMF economic violence and ISIS violence, i choose ISIS.

I know you are a troll but sorry, that was the stupidiest thing I read from you till now. Even if they destroy economic conditions... you still can manage to live. Under ISIS you would either live in constant fear, you would have to adapt or you would be dead already, maybe having cut your head of with a saw or something funny like that.

Maybe you did not really mean it the way I took it though... Roll Eyes

Are you serious? The EU politicians are more dangerous than ISIS, I hope ISIS fuck well the EU.

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The vast majority of young Arabs are increasingly rejecting Islamic State and believe the extremist group will fail to establish a caliphate, a poll has found.

of course Arabs will reject ISIS because of their wrong assumption about Islam.
the villain will never be the winner. so will ISIS.

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Quote from: popovicbit on April 12, 2016, 04:00:02 PM

I think it is 13% of Arab Youth. I assume your 200 million number comes from 13% of the entire world muslim population. The majority of muslims are actually not arabs.

The ISIS is strong in various non-Arab Muslim countries as well. Pakistan, Somalia, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Afghanistan.etc are examples. This shows that the ISIS is not just limited to the Arabs, but has presence among the non-Arab Muslims as well. And we should remember that the original "Caliphate" was a Turkish idea, rather than an Arab one.

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I hope this step will be followed by of Muslims from other countries because this is a good move to get rid of isis.

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Yeah, religion was always a great way to hide monetary interests. And guess what... the IS is not really about religion. That's the flag they wear in front of them to attract fighters. They started as a gang of smugglers and what they do is still earning money. I think I have read that one can invest in them and receive profits from their raids and such shit.

Religion in IS is only for the cannon fudder. And the psychos that want to kill, torture and rape little children. Unbelieveable that people join them believing they act for god.

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The Muslims have just as much a chance of coming together as Christians.
Its a large religion around the world because dictators love being able to wipe out the competition under the guise of religion. Look at the largest areas of Muslim populations and you will almost aways see a controlled population.
As for the stat its pretty vague and most likely misunderstood by people answering the poll.

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Quote from: magnific61 on April 12, 2016, 04:27:23 AM

ISIS will not bring kaliphate, their aim to prevent it. Kaliphate will come and all muslims will be united soon. I and many muslims believe that

Hey, nice to meet a Let's Take Over the World fanatic. And you've got to have it your way, just like other muslims want it there way. How about that.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on April 12, 2016, 06:47:22 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 12, 2016, 06:42:30 AM

13% supporting the Islamic State? That is still some 200 million people, who are willing to exterminate or enslave the "infidels". And worryingly, this figure is likely to be a huge under-estimate. The slight fall in support may be due to the recent military defeats faced by the ISIS, as the regime forces gained ground in Syria.

I agree, it's really a concerning number. And I personally had to find out that radicals live near everyone. Even in your city. It's not funny to hear what they say... and I will not say something about some forum members on here... "no, I'm not a terrorist supporter, I only want to cut other peoples hands off or want to stone bitches." Roll Eyes

Yes, those are your moderate forum muslims.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 12, 2016, 06:42:30 AM

13% supporting the Islamic State? That is still some 200 million people, who are willing to exterminate or enslave the "infidels". And worryingly, this figure is likely to be a huge under-estimate. The slight fall in support may be due to the recent military defeats faced by the ISIS, as the regime forces gained ground in Syria.

I think it is 13% of Arab Youth. I assume your 200 million number comes from 13% of the entire world muslim population. The majority of muslims are actually not arabs.

Given that, I agree that that statistic is worrying, however this region of the world has seen dictatorship, oppression, civil wars, and economic backwardness for 60 + years.

The United State of America is the most prosperous and secure country in the history of the world. We go through a little recession and 8 years of our 1st black presidents and you have 30-40% of American ready to support Trump. This guy calls for open discrimination and war crimes.

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Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on April 12, 2016, 11:15:06 AM

If i have to choose between EU/IMF economic violence and ISIS violence, i choose ISIS.

I know you are a troll but sorry, that was the stupidiest thing I read from you till now. Even if they destroy economic conditions... you still can manage to live. Under ISIS you would either live in constant fear, you would have to adapt or you would be dead already, maybe having cut your head of with a saw or something funny like that.

Maybe you did not really mean it the way I took it though... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on April 12, 2016, 11:15:06 AM

If i have to choose between EU/IMF economic violence and ISIS violence, i choose ISIS.

No matter you choose ISIS or EU, Peace should remain in world

Dont be so sure about that. Read the words of Nigel Farage: "It's even more serious than economics because if you rob people of their identity, if you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence. I can only hope and pray that the Euro project is destroyed by the markets before that"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs

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Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on April 12, 2016, 11:15:06 AM

If i have to choose between EU/IMF economic violence and ISIS violence, i choose ISIS.

It is like saying that you would prefer death from Ebola rather than dying from HIV/AIDS. The fact that IMF is destroying the livelihoods of people should not be used to justify or support the barbarianism shown by the Islamic State. At least the International Monetary Fund is not enslaving infant girls and converting them to sex slaves.

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Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on April 12, 2016, 11:15:06 AM

If i have to choose between EU/IMF economic violence and ISIS violence, i choose ISIS.

No matter you choose ISIS or EU, Peace should remain in world

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If i have to choose between EU/IMF economic violence and ISIS violence, i choose ISIS.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 12, 2016, 06:42:30 AM

13% supporting the Islamic State? That is still some 200 million people, who are willing to exterminate or enslave the "infidels". And worryingly, this figure is likely to be a huge under-estimate. The slight fall in support may be due to the recent military defeats faced by the ISIS, as the regime forces gained ground in Syria.

I agree, it's really a concerning number. And I personally had to find out that radicals live near everyone. Even in your city. It's not funny to hear what they say... and I will not say something about some forum members on here... "no, I'm not a terrorist supporter, I only want to cut other peoples hands off or want to stone bitches." Roll Eyes

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13% supporting the Islamic State? That is still some 200 million people, who are willing to exterminate or enslave the "infidels". And worryingly, this figure is likely to be a huge under-estimate. The slight fall in support may be due to the recent military defeats faced by the ISIS, as the regime forces gained ground in Syria.

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Heard of the word daesh the first time now. And yes, I think it's a good thing that they don't like the islamit state, probably because of their methods and hate against muslims with a sligthly different belief. But on the other side there unfortunately are enough that believe in middle age punishments and things that put them alot near to brutality and even killing.

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As usual news organisations like the Guardian are trying to make it out like the young Islamists are rejecting ISIS outright, when in reality if you look at the questions and the numbers even if they reject the organisation itself they still hold beliefs that are often incompatible with the western world as does much of Islam.

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