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when i was a kid my dad showed me a tape of a movie called the doberman gang i immediately loved it just recently i purchased the dvd set with the first and second doberman gang movie but ive been unable get the amazing dobermans they have it on vhs on amazon i suppose i could buy it but i havent owned a vhs in since the 90s lol



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074130/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

On the first page, I listed a couple of films. Among the first ten, which ones might you be inclined to watch?
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when i was a kid my dad showed me a tape of a movie called the doberman gang i immediately loved it just recently i purchased the dvd set with the first and second doberman gang movie but ive been unable get the amazing dobermans they have it on vhs on amazon i suppose i could buy it but i havent owned a vhs in since the 90s lol



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074130/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
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Do any of you feel as deficient as I when it comes to having properly explored the various essential and desirable film canons and film movements out there? I mean, I'll admit that I'm not even aware of the some of the correct labels to apply to the various canons, sadly.

I certainly haven't done a decent job of exploring the French New Wave, the Czech New Wave, Bergman's works (if that could be considered a canon unto itself). I very definitely have developed an affinity for the Japanese New Wave, post WWII Japanese melodrama, a smattering of the Taiwan New Wave, some modern Korean cinema, Hong Kong cinema (through the lens of Wong Kar-Wai's lenses), and some modern films from mainland China. So much to explore, though.
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I picked up Fallen Angels on Blu yesterday, so I'll be able to soon knock that one off my list.

Trailer to Fallen Angels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZda7nWftQI
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Ender's Game was an awesome book! Not sure I would watch the movie because knowing the "punchline" kind of ruins watching it. I was surprised, but not really...

My theory on books vs. movies, and the order in which to watch them:

Scenario #1: You read the book some time ago, before you were aware of a movie or before it was made. In such cases, it's obvious. Book first, and movie second, if you enjoyed the book.

Scenario #2: You have not yet read the book nor seen the movie. If you do not view the book as an essential read, then watch the movie first. If you do view the book as an essential read, still consider watching the movie first, or forgetting about the movie altogether. However, if the movie is considered important, then watch the movie first.

Regarding scenario #2 above, it's pretty much a fact that reading a book first will make the movie not so enjoyable. This is something you must come to terms with. It has nothing to do with the quality of the movie, but rather the different mediums. Films portray narrative differently, and in comparison to books, they leave stuff out. This disappoints readers.

Films need to be appreciated at their own level. Once you aspire to do that, films can be magical.
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Ender's Game was an awesome book! Not sure I would watch the movie because knowing the "punchline" kind of ruins watching it. I was surprised, but not really...
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How do you pick movies to watch? I might imagine it would be a combination of some of the following:

1. Choose from whatever Hollywood has hitting the theaters this week.
2. Choose from whatever higher profile Blu-rays or DVDs are being released this week.
3. Choose from some new offerings on Netflix, Hulu, etc.
3. Go on a friend's recommendation.
4. Watch one of those movies you've been hearing about forever but haven't yet watched.
5. Watch something that sort of randomly showed up through various browsing, etc.

There's nothing inherently wrong with the above methods - it's just that they're inadequate. Here's an analogy: it's exactly akin to only selecting books to read that are on bookstore endcaps, in bookstore promotions, and whatever Costco or Walmart are selling, and whatever your friend loans to you.

Almost every movie anyone else in these forums has mentioned is available inside a Best Buy store as a DVD or Blu-ray.

Almost every movie I have mentioned in these forums is not available inside a Best Buy store.

However, here's the kicker: almost every movie I have mentioned cannot be said to be some obscure film dredged from the bottom of the barrel. Instead, just about every film I have mentioned has a distinct place in the history of cinema, is highly praised, features a director of some repute, has a fan following, etc.

What are the search criteria? What makes these films trickle to the top out of perhaps 100,000's of films out there? Here are some reasons:

1. They are by a director who is universally acknowledged as a great director.

- An example would the British Film Institute's feature on Yasujiro Ozu: http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/ozu-yasujiro-master-time

2. The films, or other films by the director have shown up in Sight & Sound's Directors Poll, or Sight & Sound's Criticss Poll.

- See Sight & Sound's Directors Poll: http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/sight-sound-2012-directors-top-ten
- See Sight & Sound's Critics Poll: http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/50-greatest-films-all-time

3. Cinephiles (avid film watchers who take film watching seriously) have given excellent ratings to the films, typically 4 out of 5 stars.

See a forum thread populated by cinephiles. What you'll find is mention of the greats. On the first page we see people mentioning Mizoguchi, Ozu, Yang, etc.: http://mubi.com/topics/if-you-had-to-choose-five-directors-oeuvres-to-bring-to-a-desert-island

4. Cinephiles have created special artwork, trailers, montages, etc. to promote the films, and received praise from other fans.

- As an example, see a Three Reasons fan made video for Pastorale: To Die in the Country: https://vimeo.com/30090257
- Or Three Reasons for The Man Without a Map: https://vimeo.com/26575321
- Or Yuka on Mondays: https://vimeo.com/19870311

5. There are whole blogs dedicated to the various genres which heap high praise and critical acclaim on the films.

- See Criterion Cast as an example: http://criterioncast.com/
- See Midnight Eye as an example: http://www.midnighteye.com/

6. Well known critics, such as the late Roger Ebert, have included the films on special lists, such as Roger Ebert's list of 'Great Films'.

See Roger Ebert's list of Great Films here. Right from the start, we see films by Keisuke Kinoshita, Kenji Mizoguchi, etc: http://www.rogerebert.com/great-movies

7. The actors and actresses in the films are well known and respected by critics and fans alike for their work.

- See an appreciation of Setsuko Hara and Hideko Takamine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O6tdZucyVc

8. The films or other films by the directors are often dissected and analyzed for their unique and/or groundbreaking film grammars.

9. The films, or other films by the same directors are commonly studied in film school for their powerful themes, historical precedents, etc.

10. Well known film scholars, academics, directors, etc. have provided commentary and analysis on the films, or other films by the directors in film journals, on DVDs, etc.

- Roger Ebert provides commentary on Floating Weeds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPjHBhWm4MU
- See Tony Rayns: http://cinema-scope.com/author/tony-rayns/
- See David Bordwell: http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/

11. Many of the films, or other films by the same directors have received very expensive restorations and are currently on tour in film festivals. An example would be The Housemaid and Edward Yang's A Brighter Summer Day, which have both been restored by Martin Scorsese's World Cinema Foundation.

- See the World Cinema Foundation here: http://worldcinemafoundation.org/
- The Housemaid: http://worldcinemafoundation.org/films/the-housemaid
- A Brighter Summer Day: http://worldcinemafoundation.org/films/summer

12. An appreciation of director/actor collaborations can lead one to a whole set of films beyond the one film which enabled you to discover the director and actor. A great example are the many films directed by Mikio Naruse and featuring the star Hideko Takamine.
 
- See a fan made tribute to Hideko Takamine here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSLKCLv-7bI
- See a blogger's appreciation of Hideko Takamine here: http://selfstyledsiren.blogspot.com/2011/01/in-memoriam-hideko-takamine-1924-2010.html
- A study of Mikio Naruse's work: http://sensesofcinema.com/2003/great-directors/naruse-2/
- A book on Mikio Naruse: http://www.amazon.com/The-Cinema-Naruse-Mikio-Modernity/dp/0822343126

Now let's talk about pure enjoyment. When one first starts to explore these various film canons, one typically isn't familiar with the director, the actors, or necessarily the genre. Thus, the initial enjoyment of these films is less than what can ultimately be realized. But if one pushes further into the catalog, one gets a more intimate feel for the various traits of each director, a more familiar intimacy with the actors, and finer nuanced appreciation of the respective genres. Enjoyment goes way up. 
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Whoa, you guys have really put some effort in! I'll have movies to watch for a long while lol.

What guys?

You're actually looking at a partial listing of my personal list. A few others, such as yourself, mentioned maybe 3 films. This isn't a list of films by committee. Everyone has their own list. Thank you for providing your own list.

Oh whoops, sorry about the ignorance. Actually makes me feel better about only adding 3 though haha

Which of the movies on my list (first page) have you not seen?

To be honest, not an awful lot. I went through the list last night and most of them I've never heard of! It's a good thing though, as I'm always looking for something to watch before bed. Might have my work cut out for me to get through your list though..

No time now, but please check back later or in a day or so, and I'll try and have a post up explaining to you the significance and importance of the list. It's not just random stuff. But for now, you should go to this other recent thread (linked below), where I have posted about 20 posts (I didn't count) with great clips from movies - movies I have seen. If you come across one that doesn't interest you, I have two things to say:

1. Keep watching it to the end - you might be surprised.
2. Watch them all. One clip isn't indicative of the others.

To whet your appetite, here's a gorgeous example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBqHAPgB494

Furthermore, mostly, I don't mention movies everyone knows about, because, well, what's the point? But I do mention movies which are generally critically appraised by critics, bloggers, film scholars, directors, etc.

This is the thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/your-favorite-movie-moments-249593
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HOLY SHIT you have a big list. How do you remember all these movies??
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Whoa, you guys have really put some effort in! I'll have movies to watch for a long while lol.

What guys?

You're actually looking at a partial listing of my personal list. A few others, such as yourself, mentioned maybe 3 films. This isn't a list of films by committee. Everyone has their own list. Thank you for providing your own list.

Oh whoops, sorry about the ignorance. Actually makes me feel better about only adding 3 though haha

Which of the movies on my list (first page) have you not seen?

To be honest, not an awful lot. I went through the list last night and most of them I've never heard of! It's a good thing though, as I'm always looking for something to watch before bed. Might have my work cut out for me to get through your list though..
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Whoa, you guys have really put some effort in! I'll have movies to watch for a long while lol.

What guys?

You're actually looking at a partial listing of my personal list. A few others, such as yourself, mentioned maybe 3 films. This isn't a list of films by committee. Everyone has their own list. Thank you for providing your own list.

Oh whoops, sorry about the ignorance. Actually makes me feel better about only adding 3 though haha

Which of the movies on my list (first page) have you not seen?
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Whoa, you guys have really put some effort in! I'll have movies to watch for a long while lol.

What guys?

You're actually looking at a partial listing of my personal list. A few others, such as yourself, mentioned maybe 3 films. This isn't a list of films by committee. Everyone has their own list. Thank you for providing your own list.

Oh whoops, sorry about the ignorance. Actually makes me feel better about only adding 3 though haha
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Whoa, you guys have really put some effort in! I'll have movies to watch for a long while lol.

What guys?

You're actually looking at a partial listing of my personal list. A few others, such as yourself, mentioned maybe 3 films. This isn't a list of films by committee. Everyone has their own list. Thank you for providing your own list.
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Whoa, you guys have really put some effort in! I'll have movies to watch for a long while lol.

I'm not really a movie guy, but three I would really like to see are:

World War Z
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrells       - Friends tell me there are no excuses for not having seen this yet!
Clockwork Orange
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I have discovered a loving tribute to the films of Mikio Naruse, in this montage of shots which seem to explore just one type of composition that you might find in his films. So many of them I have not yet seen yet, so I think it apropos to post the video here in this thread.

Such great sublimity here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uudNdgYhQzA
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Wow, you want to watch a lot of movies. I wouldn't be able to find the time of day to watch all of them. Good luck with that. I can't contribute because I have watched all I want to watch at the moment in time.

Really? I've only listed 225 films, plus the one in my last post which hasn't made it into the list yet. I maintain another list elsewhere which has about 500 films on it. It really isn't a lot, if you think about it. Sure, the list will grow, but you have to understand I'm drawing mostly from the past, which is a catalog that doesn't grow. Furthermore, it takes a lot for a movie to make the list.

So you have to understand, it's not this month's list, or this year's list. It's simply the list. If one watched one movie a week, the list you see so far would be done in about four years.
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