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Quote from: Bill buffalo on January 23, 2024, 01:26:33 AM

What if I was black or brown would you still give me the same advice

I've got friends of friends that have been living well in California and just as said that there are each communities that you can find where you belong there and I think in some other states too. But if you're for the opportunity, I think many are moving to Texas and following the herd that's make by Elon as for his companies are moving there from Silicon Valley.

And to tell you honestly, these racism, inequality, it's not just happening on a certain place like for your question in USA. For every parts of the world, there are people that you don't know what's on their mind and they might attack you just because they're like that and they want to. If you want to move to a country, look for those countries that has peaceful index and have the standard of living based on the stats and surveys made. I'm thinking of that but as of now, I don't think that I should move.

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Quote from: Bill buffalo on December 30, 2023, 08:20:22 AM

based on safety, diversity and lack of racism

If you're looking for both diversity and safety, it's going to be hard. Usually the neighbourhoods where there's a lot of people of colour are also the ones with the most violent crimes and I dare you to call me racist for telling the truth.
I don't live in the US but I've visited a few times and if I were to live somewhere it would be somewhere far from all this cultural diversity. In a place where the air smells like it used to 50 years ago and you can actually see some wild life, not hookers and addicts standing on the corner. Montana, or one of the nearby states would be nice.

Quote from: BADecker on December 30, 2023, 06:26:57 PM

I talked to a Hispanic friend a couple days ago. He said that a lot of Mexican illegals are moving back, because they are finding out America isn't as free as they had been told.

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I guess they should visit Canada then. They'll find much more freedom there, courtesy of Trudeau Wink

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 02, 2024, 10:26:20 AM

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In my opinion, if a person lives in his own country, it will be the greatest honor for him because own country can provide you everything.

But what they will provide for you is what you will pay with your own money you make from your own country because anything you use in that country is not free but it will look like free in your eyes which is something many people don't know before leaving their country to another country.

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You live like a king in your own country, but if someone go to another country, there is no respect for the servant, that is, he is not able to give as much love so value your country and consider your country as your home and live in it. Because there is benefit in it.

Leaving your own country to other country to have some fun is a nice decision to me , if you have the money but leaving your country to other country to live there forever is not a good decision no matter what because, assume the citizens of that particular country did that some years ago to leave that country, do you think the country would have developed for other foreigner to live.

Moving out of one's country most of the times does not have anything to do with fun or amusement, actually. In these years it has been more about people trying to find a place to live and where laws are better applied than in their home countries. There is a good reason in the United States most immigrants are from countries in Central America, Venezuela, Mexico, etc. those are countries where there is a pretty high percentage of corruption and disregard for the justice system, corruption also exists because the lack of opportunities in the economical field, the resources suffer deviation.
If in those countries there were laws as tough as in the United States, people would be less likely to move to the USA seeking refuge or better opportunities.
It is true that to some people "home" is the place one was born, while one could also consider "home" to be the place where one is able to make one's dreams become a reality.

Just a personal opinion of mine, of course.

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In my opinion, if a person lives in his own country, it will be the greatest honor for him because own country can provide you everything.

But what they will provide for you is what you will pay with your own money you make from your own country because anything you use in that country is not free but it will look like free in your eyes which is something many people don't know before leaving their country to another country.

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You live like a king in your own country, but if someone go to another country, there is no respect for the servant, that is, he is not able to give as much love so value your country and consider your country as your home and live in it. Because there is benefit in it.

Leaving your own country to other country to have some fun is a nice decision to me , if you have the money but leaving your country to other country to live there forever is not a good decision no matter what because, assume the citizens of that particular country did that some years ago to leave that country, do you think the country would have developed for other foreigner to live.

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Quote from: Bill buffalo on January 23, 2024, 01:26:33 AM

What if I was black or brown would you still give me the same advice

Sure, I would.
Nobody here is asking about the color of your skin, the country you are moving from, your native language or your ethnic. Even people here in this thread and within the political section which consider themselves to be conservatives or pro-Republican would be okey with anyone moving to the United States, because they assume you are going to move there legally. In your Original post you made no reference about getting into the United States illegally or try to break any laws, so nobody here has an actual reason to mistreat you or deny you useful information you may like.
I understand these are very tough times in the USA and in the southern border of the United States, this situation could easily stigmatize anyone who talks about moving there, but we are not supposed to assume immediately that anyone talking about moving is an illegal immigrant or an asylum seeker.

I would not have any problem either if you were, though others may differ from my point of view on such topic.

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Quote from: Bill buffalo on December 30, 2023, 08:20:22 AM

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

Assuming you're black, movie to Atlanta, there are lots of blacks there, you'll find community. Or you could go to Harlem in New York.

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I don't think America is a country that you should be moving to now. I think there are better options and America is on a decline. Its society is tearing apart and its economy is going down. And the people who move there are struggling. So my suggestion is to move to Canada, Australia, Newzeland or any other country.

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In my opinion, if a person lives in his own country, it will be the greatest honor for him because own country can provide you everything.

You live like a king in your own country, but if someone go to another country, there is no respect for the servant, that is, he is not able to give as much love so value your country and consider your country as your home and live in it. Because there is benefit in it.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on January 05, 2024, 02:58:28 PM

Quote from: Hispo on January 03, 2024, 04:24:27 PM

a place with exotic animals which could represent a danger for people in general, like alligators, anacondas, etc. you can indeed feel some relief during the winter, but during summer temperatures and thermal sensation could be unbearable, even for some residents.
If OP had some curiosity or attraction for the Latino people, though it would be a good option for him, it is no secret there is a bunch of people from Latin America living there in Florida.
The prices of real state are of course as high as one would expect.

I think that danger of alligators or anacondas is more like sterereotype which comes from movies, rather than real threat. Yeah there is some risk, but it's something similar like chance to meet wolf or bear in forest somehwere in Eastern Europe - 99% that it won't happen.
Good point about climate in summer. I like hot weather, but such conditions continues for a long time, maybe it would already too much, especially when humidity makes it worse.

BTW, found nice map showin top US states to live in:

https://twitter.com/TerribleMaps/status/1739757247494836274/photo/1
Interesting how many will catch the meme

Wheater may be not a problem depending on the budget OP could have to move and live in the United States, by the way. I live in a tropical country and it has mostly bearable because we all count with Air conditioning units and electricity is almost free here in my country, so one needs to do in close the doors and turn the AC on at noon.
If OP has enough money, then he could do the same, because from what I have read not only electricity in the USA is expensive but it also changes its price depending on the time of the day, being noon the most expensive time to consume electricity. You know, there is a very good reason rich people like Donald Trump keep at least two properties, one in the north and other in the south of the country. So in summer he can move to New Jersey and do not suffer from heat, while during the Winter he goes back to Florida.
It is the kind of stuff the common people of USA obviously cannot afford to do, and probably not an option for OP either.

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Quote from: Hispo on January 03, 2024, 04:24:27 PM

a place with exotic animals which could represent a danger for people in general, like alligators, anacondas, etc. you can indeed feel some relief during the winter, but during summer temperatures and thermal sensation could be unbearable, even for some residents.
If OP had some curiosity or attraction for the Latino people, though it would be a good option for him, it is no secret there is a bunch of people from Latin America living there in Florida.
The prices of real state are of course as high as one would expect.

I think that danger of alligators or anacondas is more like sterereotype which comes from movies, rather than real threat. Yeah there is some risk, but it's something similar like chance to meet wolf or bear in forest somehwere in Eastern Europe - 99% that it won't happen.
Good point about climate in summer. I like hot weather, but such conditions continues for a long time, maybe it would already too much, especially when humidity makes it worse.

BTW, found nice map showin top US states to live in:

https://twitter.com/TerribleMaps/status/1739757247494836274/photo/1
Interesting how many will catch the meme

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The biggest reasons for moving to America are these:
1. The right to freely contract - but be careful with this;
2. The right to really own private property.

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Quote from: Bill buffalo on December 30, 2023, 08:20:22 AM

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

I don't know why you want to move to the US. If you are moving because you are fleeing war or violence or you are seeking better economic opportunities, then it might be a good idea to do proper research on the states and their laws. The country has different laws in different states so you have to get acquainted with the laws as it relates to you. I would not like to stay in a state that has a high rate of gun use because it might be violent. I will also suggest that you locate a friend or relative who resides in the US because they might be in a better position to give you firsthand experience of how these states look like.

But if you desire to experience low racism, I am sorry to state that racism is enshrined in the culture of America. Even blacks that are born in America see black immigrants as opportunists. Just pray that Donald Trump doesn't win the next election because racism will increase if he is victorious. But the best place to stay and have respect and peace of mind is your country.

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Quote from: pooya87 on January 04, 2024, 02:31:11 AM

The "land of opportunity" Cry

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Sexual attacks and other traumatic experiences have led to an unprecedented level of hopelessness and suicidal thoughts among America's young women, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Monday.

Nearly 3 in 5 teen girls (57%) said they felt "persistently sad or hopeless." That's the highest rate in a decade. And 30% said they have seriously considered dying by suicide — a percentage that's risen by nearly 60% over the past 10 years.

I would bet it is a mixture of lack of economical opportunities and also an after effect of the COVID pandemic. It affected many young people negatively, no doubt about it. More isolation, more uncertainty and added to the loss of family members to that virus. Though, I believe it would be biased to say data like that is exclusive from the United States, I assume if we took a look at those same indicators in other western democracies, both in the American continent and Europe , then we could find there has been an increase in the sense of hopelessness in most of them.

Whether OP or anyone actually feels like moving to the USA, ultimately won't care about those studies and will only look at their own personal emotions and possibilities. I have myself had friends and neighbors who moved there and they did not even considered that kind of studies on the feelings of the young people of the USA, they managed to get money and some will stay while other will come back with their freshly acquired savings.

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OP, do you like this feeling?

And I want to express that that place is in your own mind, external problems, if you don't need to differentiate, always appear in the context of your life. I don't see any city that doesn't have its own problems, I mean the distinction between good and bad is always present anywhere that makes us discriminate, and it won't go away, we just have to accept it and live in harmony with them to reduce fatigue.

"The land of dreams" and it includes "nightmares", the physical factor that determines emotions, you also need to accept that you can adapt to that material threshold, just like we are easily deceived personal freedom and rights without knowing personal obligations.

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Quote from: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/teen-mental-health-cdc-girls-sadness-violence-rcna69964

Sexual attacks and other traumatic experiences have led to an unprecedented level of hopelessness and suicidal thoughts among America's young women, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Monday.

Nearly 3 in 5 teen girls (57%) said they felt "persistently sad or hopeless." That's the highest rate in a decade. And 30% said they have seriously considered dying by suicide — a percentage that's risen by nearly 60% over the past 10 years.

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Quote from: Hispo on December 30, 2023, 09:28:45 AM

If I had to move to the United States and wanted to have some semi-normal standards of living, then I would try to stay away from big cities and find a place to live in the rural areas of the country, probably in the center-north of the country. Houses/rents are more affordable there, there is less people drugged living in the streets and it would be much calmer; though all if it comes with less diversity/tolerance for people of different skin color/origin and also, it is more difficult to find a job in rulsr areas of the country, one would need to be willing to either work remotely or get one's hand dirty working in farms.
Regardless where one ends up living, the best choice is to try the legal ways to move in the USA.

I haven't been to USA, so, I can't advice to OP, but personally, I wouldn't like to live in huge cities like New York and LA. As someone who lives in small city, I prefer calm rhytm of life and reaching everything what I need in less than 30 minutes. I would hate to spend hours of my life daily in traffic jams. And when I see how much rent of tiny apartment in New York costs, you have to earn a lot just to pay for rent. And there is some places in these cities you better avoid visiting if you care about your safety, like Bronx for example.
Florida for someone who hates winter looks like great place to live. Maybe I wouldn't want to live in Miami, but it would be interesting to visit it one day just feel that Vice City vibe

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Though, for some reason I do not truly understand completely, people in the United States also tend to rule out Florida as a bad way to live in, for some reason. The perception I have got about that place from things I have heard from friends is that Florida is a State which serves as a place for people to go for retirement, a place with exotic animals which could represent a danger for people in general, like alligators, anacondas, etc. you can indeed feel some relief during the winter, but during summer temperatures and thermal sensation could be unbearable, even for some residents.
If OP had some curiosity or attraction for the Latino people, though it would be a good option for him, it is no secret there is a bunch of people from Latin America living there in Florida.
The prices of real state are of course as high as one would expect.

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Quote from: Hispo on December 30, 2023, 09:28:45 AM

If I had to move to the United States and wanted to have some semi-normal standards of living, then I would try to stay away from big cities and find a place to live in the rural areas of the country, probably in the center-north of the country. Houses/rents are more affordable there, there is less people drugged living in the streets and it would be much calmer; though all if it comes with less diversity/tolerance for people of different skin color/origin and also, it is more difficult to find a job in rulsr areas of the country, one would need to be willing to either work remotely or get one's hand dirty working in farms.
Regardless where one ends up living, the best choice is to try the legal ways to move in the USA.

I haven't been to USA, so, I can't advice to OP, but personally, I wouldn't like to live in huge cities like New York and LA. As someone who lives in small city, I prefer calm rhytm of life and reaching everything what I need in less than 30 minutes. I would hate to spend hours of my life daily in traffic jams. And when I see how much rent of tiny apartment in New York costs, you have to earn a lot just to pay for rent. And there is some places in these cities you better avoid visiting if you care about your safety, like Bronx for example.
Florida for someone who hates winter looks like great place to live. Maybe I wouldn't want to live in Miami, but it would be interesting to visit it one day just feel that Vice City vibe

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Quote from: Bill buffalo on December 30, 2023, 08:20:22 AM

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

Going to the best country based on peace and quality of life like you said America, may be your personal choice. There are many countries other than America where the standard of living is much better. A good country to consider might be Canada or New Zealand, both known for their safety, diversity and peaceful lifestyle. As far as I know these countries generally have very low crime rates. These countries are ranked highly in terms of quality of life and have strict policies against racism and discrimination.

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Quote from: Bill buffalo on December 30, 2023, 08:20:22 AM

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

If you want to work and live then move to New York or California. If you are rich and move to states (not the best option though because there are better countries out there) then Utah, Tennesse, and Hawai. Cheesy

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