Topic: MPEx & Bitcoin Stock Exchanges - page 2. (Read 5706 times)

Because it has about two assets with any value in them.

No mention of Crypto::Stocks?

Public list isn't complete as it only contains entries for those who have entered a BTC address to be published.  So, e.g., if an asset is imported from GLBSE and shares assigned to email addresses with no existing account then there won't be any BTC address published for them (as there isn't one to publish).

Unless that's somehow changed recently - last time I checked listed shares for assets were (in some cases significantly) below those shown as outstanding.

Using BTC addresses rather than email addresses gives some degree of anonymity - but at the cost of ease of use and (more importantly) completeness.

No, probably not.  I wasn't comfortable with publishing the BTC addresses.

Someone could start up a backup service though that issuers could use.  Eg, they open an account, plug in the api endpoint (w/ api key), and the backup service could archive the lists at regular intervals.  This service would be good for backing up more than just the asset lists.  Regular users could use it to back up their portfolio contents, etc.


I think the public list is complete.  If I understand it correctly, there's a separate private list (which includes email addresses) which is also complete, with the exception of your email address if you have not opted into sharing it.

Don't really need a backup of a partial list (which is all you can get on Bitfunder) when, as an asset issuer, I can get a full list of my investors on BTC.CO any time I want.

My view is that making a partial list public does more harm than good (it gives out information that shouldn't be in the public domain - allowing correlation between various holdings and also determination of the holdings in an asset by someone buying or selling).  Investors have to trust the asset issuer anyway if they want their investments honoured - so why not trust them to hold the list in the first place?

Publishing an incomplete list is the worst of both worlds - it doesn't give the information necessary to continue operations whilst giving out information to everyone that they have no right to be given.

Yea I understand, that why I did not go off making some post about shitty service like you see people doing all the time lol.

Ahh theres the issue, you replied to the email, not the ticket.
I added a note to support responses making sure people know not to reply to the email. Was thinking it was already there, I guess not.

Thanks for the backup. I would love to offer users the same for btct, except that doesn't sound possible.

Yea I understand that I do a 1 man show myself besides the help of a great programmer that helps me with coding and stuff. But I still answer emails in a 48hrs or l otherwise have "gone fishing" sign up JK. But I let people know there will be a delay.


Edit:

Kowalczewski, Daniel <[email protected]>
Feb 13 (9 days ago)

to BitFunder
Its not for a GLSBE stock its for a new one, and I wanted to make you aware it is a real company with real stock. I want to be sure this will not put you in some sort of legal fix. Bitcoin-.com is our site,
http://www.business.govt.nz/fsp/app/ui/fsp/version/searchSummaryCompanyFSP/FSP270025/1.do?noReturn=true
Registration with the NZ gov as a Limited Company and a Financial Services Provider.
Feel free to make a account in the xxxx section.

Amusingly enough, I show no ticket updates.
I see a ticket, a ticket response, but nothing more.
Are you sure you posted the update to the ticket?

If bitfunder "suddenly shuts down" the list is not available because it's on their website.  Though there's always this: https://btct.co/history-bitfunder/ (don't use IE, I don't mirror the superfluous content so it breaks)

The list also does not include any way to contact the shareholders.  (Another Edit/Add: Bitfunder did in fact add this option, just found it in my account preferences!  I can share my email with the issuers!)  

btct.co makes shares/email/bitcoin address lists available to issuers on the site (html), via the api (json), and by emailing all issuers complete lists at 12 hour intervals.




https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1531827

Unfortunately most of these places (btct.co included) are one or two man shops.  There's not a lot of income to support much more, so when something happens at home, things get backed up.  Hopefully he's back soon and things are ok.

Edit/add: Heh, I forgot to mention the times when you're just super-focused on an awesome new feature!  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1550069


We definitely try hard at BTC-TC.  Too hard at times.  But we're still an early startup, (~6 months in biz) so that is to be expected.  I've had a few discussions with some community members and they've had some great ideas for tightening controls on new listings, so we'll be implementing that soon.  We also have some of the strictest controls out there on funds, which I believe were one of the major causes of the GLBSE price crashes right before the operational collapse.

Cheers.

Oh goodness, it seems you've been listening to MPOE-PR a bit too much.
MPEx hosts, like, 3 stocks...one for MPEx, one of SDICE, and one for S.BBET. Haven't been on there in a while so I might be missing one...but in any case if MPEx goes down Erik (the owner of SDICE) will probably just move to another exchange.

They only think they're the best because they host SDICE, which has quite the trading volume.

Options for this month expire last Friday in the month at midnight UTC (today), monthly results will be released few hours after that, at most.

When will the MPOE monthly results for February 2013 be released? thx

Once you dispense with need for superficial "niceness" and "profesionality" and consider things rationally, you may find out there's a strong reason behind how MPEx does things.  Both Bitfunder and BTCT I perceive are doing their utmost to be nice,to cater to  everyone...and I fear they'll spread thin and it will be their undoing. Or maybe not I hope, they are nice folks.

Oh and MPEx was reaching 50k/mo volume long before satoshidice, due to their in-house BTCUSD options trader-MPOE. Many ignore MPOE at their detriment.

Edit: MPEx publishes its database,too, in encrypted form. Just releasing a GPG key will be sufficient to decrypt it.

Was not listing nothing was getting info about what they would and would not allow, some legal questions and other things. IRC is empty tried that for 2 days going in there for 15 minutes at a time asking "anyone in here who can tell me about securities requirments."

This is not good enough answer for me lol


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Honestly, with the btc community and how btc works, anything other than that, is a lie in our opinion.
We do promise to list all holdings by the shareholders by providing a public btcaddress/asset/shares list live 24/7. (Click Here)
This leaves our liabilities down to just BTC held in accounts with us.
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@BitcoinINV: Unless you were planning to list a really crappy security, try sending an email again or go on IRC.

MPEx's PR person is a "skidmark" on bitcoins underwear that just won't come out.
I emailed the guys at bitfunder got a email, sent one back and never heard from them again. I understand they are busy but still, I would be nice to have please hold on while I look into the issue or something like that... now that it has been over 7 days i'm sure I just gave up. I will find another business that will suit my needs.

The eco system does not fall on MPEx, don't let them bloat your head with that crap. They do have a large dealing only because of S.Dice if S.Dice ever pulls out they will loose the only client that saves them face.

Pass through is great if you do not want to deal with MPEx personally.

This is why exchanges with public asset lists are important (for example, BitFunder). Even if BitFunder suddenly shuts down, asset issuers will be able to know who owned what.

Colored coins allow issuing assets without having to rely on 3rd parties.