MPEx registration fee bumped to 30 BTC. - page 2.

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 05, 2012, 09:57:06 PM

Quote from: gweedo on October 05, 2012, 08:41:34 PM

Quote from: DannyM on October 05, 2012, 04:14:42 PM

Quote from: gweedo on October 05, 2012, 12:24:52 AM

WOW 30btcs to use a site that is designed worst than craigslist and has two stocks. I would like to know how this fee is going to help the site. Are you going to get more servers? Are you going to focus on a better UI and maybe an API? I mean I would never pay for something that obviously doesn't show a return in the site.

Wow worse than craigslist? We all know what a failure that guy's site is.

It isn't a failure cause the data is good and it is free, same with MPEX the data could be good, but if the design isn't there plus the lack of an API will never attract the big users they want.

And you know. Cause you're like, on the internet. And know things. And stuff. Stfu?

I know I don't like naked girls and imageboards near my exchanges cause that totally makes your exchange legit LMAO your graphs look like two year draw them, you don't know how to use html tables, I can say that. Come on dude for 30 btcs I am looking for an exchange that at least has an API COME ONNNNNNNN.

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Quote from: fbastage on October 04, 2012, 01:41:51 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 04, 2012, 11:02:17 AM

As the title says, the fee for opening a new account on MPEx is 30 BTC, effective immediately. Already existing accounts are unaffected. The fee is projected to keep increasing for the indeterminate future.

How do you justify this ridiculous fee? where/to whom does this fee go?

It goes to their crack team of web developers. That's why the site is so slick and doesn't have to share a server and domain name with a romanian porn board.

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 05, 2012, 07:18:25 AM

Quote from: gweedo on October 05, 2012, 12:24:52 AM

WOW 30btcs to use a site that is designed worst than craigslist and has two stocks. I would like to know how this fee is going to help the site. Are you going to get more servers? Are you going to focus on a better UI and maybe an API? I mean I would never pay for something that obviously doesn't show a return in the site.

The fee is mostly there to keep out people who have no business investing. These may or may not be the sort of people that don't distinguish worse and worst.

Bitcoin is all about crowdsourcing. Besides, it's better for potential issuers/shareholders that there are more users on the site to drive volume, this will not help that.
Also, you're the most incredibly condescending business representative I've ever had the displeasure of speaking to. There's a reason your ignore button is highlighter-orange.

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Quote from: smickles on October 05, 2012, 10:22:22 PM

You know, in 'merica, it's the laws and regulations that require that, right?

I think he was being sarcastic.

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Quote from: schnell on October 05, 2012, 11:32:13 AM

So to invest in an exchange I have to go to a totally different website?
Wow.

That pisses me off about the god-damned real world exchanges, too. I have to fucking go to some site or worse, some fucking human being, to invest in companies or commodities. If I don't, I have to spend a shitload of money to get direct access to the fucking trading floor, and the user experience there sucks ass.

You know, in 'merica, it's the laws and regulations that require that, right?

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Quote from: gweedo on October 05, 2012, 08:41:34 PM

Quote from: DannyM on October 05, 2012, 04:14:42 PM

Quote from: gweedo on October 05, 2012, 12:24:52 AM

WOW 30btcs to use a site that is designed worst than craigslist and has two stocks. I would like to know how this fee is going to help the site. Are you going to get more servers? Are you going to focus on a better UI and maybe an API? I mean I would never pay for something that obviously doesn't show a return in the site.

Wow worse than craigslist? We all know what a failure that guy's site is.

It isn't a failure cause the data is good and it is free, same with MPEX the data could be good, but if the design isn't there plus the lack of an API will never attract the big users they want.

And you know. Cause you're like, on the internet. And know things. And stuff. Stfu?

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Quote from: DannyM on October 05, 2012, 04:14:42 PM

Quote from: gweedo on October 05, 2012, 12:24:52 AM

WOW 30btcs to use a site that is designed worst than craigslist and has two stocks. I would like to know how this fee is going to help the site. Are you going to get more servers? Are you going to focus on a better UI and maybe an API? I mean I would never pay for something that obviously doesn't show a return in the site.

Wow worse than craigslist? We all know what a failure that guy's site is.

It isn't a failure cause the data is good and it is free, same with MPEX the data could be good, but if the design isn't there plus the lack of an API will never attract the big users they want.

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Quote from: reeses on October 05, 2012, 04:38:10 PM

Quote from: Bugpowder on October 05, 2012, 04:13:32 PM

Quote from: fbastage on October 05, 2012, 04:09:17 PM

build something better, or charge less. it's that simple.

Bloomberg terminals are not easy to use, are ugly, and expensive as hell.

Why do they dominate the market?

Let me tell you. :-)

1) They are easy to use once you get to know how to use them. Much like any computer application. They are for power users, not people who expect F1 to be the DWIM key.

2) Expensive is relative. The cost to the average user is not major compared to the ROI. There are less expensive options for day traders and other consumer-level traders, but they don't have the full featureset (which you may not need).

3) They are *nuts* about innovation. They keep the interface pretty static (which makes sense) and continually test and improve the backend.

4) Per #1, the industrial ubiquity means that you can go from terminal to terminal, floor to floor, and while the layout may be different, you'll be able to use the system. Your dad can teach you how to use it, if he's in the industry. The number of people who can help you (beyond the people coming out from Bloomberg to train you, or at their corp facility) is immense.

Funny, this reminds me of GPG.

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Quote from: Bugpowder on October 05, 2012, 04:13:32 PM

Quote from: fbastage on October 05, 2012, 04:09:17 PM

build something better, or charge less. it's that simple.

Bloomberg terminals are not easy to use, are ugly, and expensive as hell.

Why do they dominate the market?

Let me tell you. :-)

1) They are easy to use once you get to know how to use them. Much like any computer application. They are for power users, not people who expect F1 to be the DWIM key.

2) Expensive is relative. The cost to the average user is not major compared to the ROI. There are less expensive options for day traders and other consumer-level traders, but they don't have the full featureset (which you may not need).

3) They are *nuts* about innovation. They keep the interface pretty static (which makes sense) and continually test and improve the backend.

4) Per #1, the industrial ubiquity means that you can go from terminal to terminal, floor to floor, and while the layout may be different, you'll be able to use the system. Your dad can teach you how to use it, if he's in the industry. The number of people who can help you (beyond the people coming out from Bloomberg to train you, or at their corp facility) is immense.

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MS-DOS once dominated the market too. That doesn't mean as much as you think it does.

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Quote from: fbastage on October 05, 2012, 04:15:30 PM

Quote from: Bugpowder on October 05, 2012, 04:13:32 PM

Quote from: fbastage on October 05, 2012, 04:09:17 PM

build something better, or charge less. it's that simple.

Bloomberg terminals are not easy to use, are ugly, and expensive as hell.

Why do they dominate the market?

You've just convinced me to use a bloomberg terminal rather than mpoe.

If they add bitcoins on there, we will all be rich.

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Quote from: Bugpowder on October 05, 2012, 04:13:32 PM

Quote from: fbastage on October 05, 2012, 04:09:17 PM

build something better, or charge less. it's that simple.

Bloomberg terminals are not easy to use, are ugly, and expensive as hell.

Why do they dominate the market?

You've just convinced me to use a bloomberg terminal rather than mpoe.

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Quote from: gweedo on October 05, 2012, 12:24:52 AM

WOW 30btcs to use a site that is designed worst than craigslist and has two stocks. I would like to know how this fee is going to help the site. Are you going to get more servers? Are you going to focus on a better UI and maybe an API? I mean I would never pay for something that obviously doesn't show a return in the site.

Wow worse than craigslist? We all know what a failure that guy's site is.

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Quote from: fbastage on October 05, 2012, 04:09:17 PM

build something better, or charge less. it's that simple.

Bloomberg terminals are not easy to use, are ugly, and expensive as hell.

Why do they dominate the market?

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That is what he wants, he only wants whales on his service, obviously from that statement.

I would gladly pay 30btcs, I probably pay up to 50 btcs for lifetime trading but when it looks like that money is just going into someone's pocket and not actually helping the site, or making attempt to make the site better, and cleaner, and at least buy a domain. I mean that is where my problem lies and while we are all greedy here, your level of greed super seeds anyone's else.

How much is security worth to you? GPG signed orders, huge liquidity in some issues (S.MPOE), only quality companies.

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WOW 30btcs to use a site that is designed worst than craigslist and has two stocks.

The reason there are only 4 stocks is that there are only 4 companies out there that are worth investing in. The rest are either scams or run by the incompetent.

The site is fully functional, and once you figure out how to do the gpg stuff (a bit tricky), which is REQUIRED if you care about security of your coins, you can place and cancel trades more quickly than on the former exchange known as GLBSE.

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build something better, or charge less. it's that simple.

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Quote from: schnell on October 05, 2012, 11:32:13 AM

So to invest in an exchange I have to go to a totally different website?
Wow.

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Mircea Popescu : In general a dev should be able to survive on that once bitcoin takes off a little. So yeah. Trying to build for the future, as always.

Shane Kinney : Its awesome that you built this platform. I can think of so many cool bells and whistles that I can build into bitotter. I'm gonna start simple, but it could become very cool.

(from here)

Stop and think for a minute. There's this exchange website which deliberately eschews turning itself into a broker, in order to allow people in the community to do something useful by themselves. It deliberately and at some expense is designed and built to empower the community.

And what you do is trashtalk it and so forth?

Ponder that for a while.

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Quote from: reeses on October 05, 2012, 12:11:16 AM

Quote from: fbastage on October 04, 2012, 01:41:51 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 04, 2012, 11:02:17 AM

As the title says, the fee for opening a new account on MPEx is 30 BTC, effective immediately. Already existing accounts are unaffected. The fee is projected to keep increasing for the indeterminate future.

How do you justify this ridiculous fee? where/to whom does this fee go?

That's not how it works. You have to justify to yourself that it's worth the fee.

If they haven't communicated value, then they've failed at marketing.

Different things. They don't owe you anything, so they don't have to justify anything.

If you want to take my money, that's how it works.

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or worse, some fucking human being,

Awh man I hate it when I have to have human contact

Cheesy

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Quote from: schnell on October 05, 2012, 10:37:18 AM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 05, 2012, 07:18:25 AM

Quote from: gweedo on October 05, 2012, 12:24:52 AM

WOW 30btcs to use a site that is designed worst than craigslist and has two stocks. I would like to know how this fee is going to help the site. Are you going to get more servers? Are you going to focus on a better UI and maybe an API? I mean I would never pay for something that obviously doesn't show a return in the site.

The fee is mostly there to keep out people who have no business investing. These may or may not be the sort of people that don't distinguish worse and worst.

Load of bull. You are just milking users.
What about small scale investors? They certainly have buisness investing, but cannot afford 30 BTC.

That is what he wants, he only wants whales on his service, obviously from that statement.

I would gladly pay 30btcs, I probably pay up to 50 btcs for lifetime trading but when it looks like that money is just going into someone's pocket and not actually helping the site, or making attempt to make the site better, and cleaner, and at least buy a domain. I mean that is where my problem lies and while we are all greedy here, your level of greed super seeds anyone's else.

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So to invest in an exchange I have to go to a totally different website?
Wow.

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