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legendary
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June 24, 2024, 06:22:32 PM
#38
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/06/24/mt-gox-to-begin-bitcoin-bitcoin-cash-repayments-in-july/

There is no doubt that the price will be greatly affected if these compensations are sent in a short period, because there is also no doubt that those affected will rush to sell part of those compensations that they will receive, because after ten years we can be considered early investors, and the value of Bitcoin has multiplied several times compared to its value in 2014, the date of the hacking.

The article mentioned that sending compensation will begin during the first week of next July and that there are protective measures that will be taken accordingly, meaning that it is not a requirement that the sending be done all at once and the impact on the market must be taken into account since the effect may exceed the crypto market to stock exchanges.

The article also mentioned that there is a specific deadline for sending compensation, which was set by a Japanese court, not to exceed October of the current year, 2024. This means that there is ample time for three months during which the compensation transactions can be divided.

Personally, I am not afraid for the Bitcoin Cash market because it is a fragile market by nature and could collapse because of this, in addition to the fact that its beneficiaries would not have dreamed of this additional reward. The Bitcoin Cash market may witness serious turmoil due to this, unlike Bitcoin, which will not collapse completely, and its price will decline as a result, without really losing its value, which will return with the price movement upwards after that in the future.
legendary
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June 23, 2024, 11:25:30 PM
#37
@STT. You might be correct and this might also imply that many people in the cryptospace at present might be waiting for October before they begin buying bitcoin and other cryptocoins again hehne. However, as a contrarian if everyone begins being very much bearish, I become more bullish. We have already witnessed that much of the people are wrong on predicting the market. I reckon we are not yet in the highest feelings of bearishness hehehe. This might be on August.
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legendary
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June 23, 2024, 06:59:50 PM
#36
They wont move all the coin at once into sale, it'll be distributed over time just like a stock issuance or IPO is done.  It makes no sense for them to swamp or throw it out and cause harm to the price which is what gives that asset sale its value.  Its a normal situation they will know how to deal with it by various contracts and swaps with dealing parties, BTC is developed enough to handle the traffic.

We also have enough good news this year with the ETF being allowed that BTC volume can be soaked up even on this scale.   Its work to do but plenty of traders and trading companies are happy to have that business is my basic take.  I'm glad to buy into any weakness anyway, if there is any noticeable dip its a buying opportunity when its given for reasons like this.
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June 22, 2024, 04:34:37 PM
#35
This needs to be a concern for some traders or short-term investors, maybe there will be negative sentiment for bitcoin and some people will definitely withdraw their positions in spot and move them to stable coins then they buy again at lower prices to accumulate more bitcoin.

I myself if there is indeed a movement made by Mt.gox to pay out its credit to its customers may take a short position to benefit from the red market situation, but we still don't know for sure how mt.gox will do it and when it will definitely share it because indeed from the past time they keep delaying and delaying.

“Short-term investors” Is that a thing? Sounds like an oxymoron to me or maybe just a way to class up the term trader. Sort of like calling a janitor a cleaning technician. Regardless, I’ll make sure to post here when I receive notification that BTC has been distributed so the short term investors can flip their bags. Lol
Short term investor lol they always sees Bitcoin investment as a get rich quick scheme they only go for smaller profit forgetting that Bitcoin investment is more profitable in the future, short term investors lacks patient refusing to hodl to their Bitcoin for a longer period of time.
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June 22, 2024, 01:41:36 PM
#34
This needs to be a concern for some traders or short-term investors, maybe there will be negative sentiment for bitcoin and some people will definitely withdraw their positions in spot and move them to stable coins then they buy again at lower prices to accumulate more bitcoin.

I myself if there is indeed a movement made by Mt.gox to pay out its credit to its customers may take a short position to benefit from the red market situation, but we still don't know for sure how mt.gox will do it and when it will definitely share it because indeed from the past time they keep delaying and delaying.

“Short-term investors” Is that a thing? Sounds like an oxymoron to me or maybe just a way to class up the term trader. Sort of like calling a janitor a cleaning technician. Regardless, I’ll make sure to post here when I receive notification that BTC has been distributed so the short term investors can flip their bags. Lol
legendary
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June 22, 2024, 01:23:17 PM
#33
-snip-
I would partially agree, the people who are still into Bitcoin will continue to HODL while
those who are no longer HODL'ing will more than likely cash those Bitcoins as they
will be in massive profit at this stage.

The market will react to this MtGox payout, its been hanging over everyone  for a very
long time and it will be good for everyone to get it finalised and becomes another part
of the MtGox history. It also means all the questions and speculation over "what will
happen when the MtGox Bitcoins are paid out?" will be final. . . we can all move on.
Of course, all creditors have been waiting for their share of Mtgox, we shouldn't have to worry about what they should get. I agree that the market will react to Mtgox's plans, but I don't plan to let go of my grip on bitcoin for a while. Markets can rise and fall regardless of the cause, so let's just wait for a recovery if the market really goes down. The main plan is to keep holding, while the second plan is to accumulate if you have a saved budget.
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June 22, 2024, 11:51:27 AM
#32
This needs to be a concern for some traders or short-term investors, maybe there will be negative sentiment for bitcoin and some people will definitely withdraw their positions in spot and move them to stable coins then they buy again at lower prices to accumulate more bitcoin.

I myself if there is indeed a movement made by Mt.gox to pay out its credit to its customers may take a short position to benefit from the red market situation, but we still don't know for sure how mt.gox will do it and when it will definitely share it because indeed from the past time they keep delaying and delaying.
legendary
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June 22, 2024, 09:59:05 AM
#31
When bitcoins are moved in large quantities it will cause a polemic and a slight correction for the market article it could be a fud and assume Mtgox will soon pay off to its creditors but this has not happened when even after they waited for many years.

I don't know how much the total number of victims is but when it reaches billions of dollars then it will be a lot of victims anyway they will definitely need more time after being promised before.

I'm not panicking at all with this news, if there is a significant drop then it's time to buy but realize there will be many people panicking with this news.
And is it true that the creditor at the time of the loss was at the price of $1100 / bitcoin? This is just reading local media news.
Any person who receives compensation from Mt. Gox will likely take all of its bitcoins to exchanges to sell. Of course, this is a sign that the market will soon be bearish if Mt. Gox really does, but luckily they haven't been too trustworthy with all their promises so far.

Panic can occur among holders and investors, while whales can take advantage of this situation to break down your mentality. Even if Mt. Gox will pay that compensation, so they will do it in stages and will not give all the bitcoins to all recipients in one stage. The market would really collapse if they did it in one stage, and they could lose a lot because of it.

I would partially agree, the people who are still into Bitcoin will continue to HODL while
those who are no longer HODL'ing will more than likely cash those Bitcoins as they
will be in massive profit at this stage.

The market will react to this MtGox payout, its been hanging over everyone  for a very
long time and it will be good for everyone to get it finalised and becomes another part
of the MtGox history. It also means all the questions and speculation over "what will
happen when the MtGox Bitcoins are paid out?" will be final. . . we can all move on.
legendary
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June 20, 2024, 04:28:09 PM
#30
I received an email today stating that the USD portion of funds from mtgox is done being repaid to creditors. This alongside the moving of BTC makes it pretty clear that they’re getting their BTC distribution software ready to go. The next 3-4 months will likely be when this BTC is absorbed by the market, but if they distribute it slowly over that period of time it to ably wouldn’t be noticeable. Let’s hope it isn’t an all at once thing.
Oh dear - I heard a warning message today from the bitcoin legends. Of course this news will be a cause for concern among holders and investors - I can even imagine the market will react in line with the entry of this bitcoin mtgox on the market. I don't expect distribution at once from mtgox to all of its creditors - if this happens, a severe panic would see the price of bitcoin drop below $40K.

But here are the risks that need to be considered - loss and gain are clear consequences. Mtgox should find an effective way to gradually distribute it to all its creditors - this will have a good impact on the market. Big dump may occur if mtgox chooses the distribution scenario all at once.
legendary
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June 20, 2024, 02:14:51 PM
#29
I had about similar situation, but I was certainly much much richer than C10H15N, he is a poor person, I am super wealthy, I had 4 dollars in it Cheesy Lol, all jokes aside I gave up on that long time ago as well and not really considering to do anything to get it back, because it is just four dollars BUT nevertheless I like seeing others get paid.
Nah, you guys are both poor, Cheesy but if those amounts are bought or converted to BTC that time, then that must've been huge right now. If only that is the ones that Mt.Gox counts to be refunded, then I won't moved on just yet. Other people have lost bigger amounts than you guys and they might also needed it badly, so yeah that it was nice seeing them get paid and it can help to re-gain the confidence of the people here in crypto that was once lost or almost lost already due to the number of scams and failed projects happening around.

MT.Gox basically made it obvious that they are going under a few months before it all began, so I took all my money out and at the time blockchain.info (now .com) was becoming bigger, so I put all my money there, now it is not even there.
You are lucky but not all are like you, maybe because they are not aware that it is coming or they are busy outside that time.
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June 20, 2024, 01:02:20 PM
#28
I received an email today stating that the USD portion of funds from mtgox is done being repaid to creditors. This alongside the moving of BTC makes it pretty clear that they’re getting their BTC distribution software ready to go. The next 3-4 months will likely be when this BTC is absorbed by the market, but if they distribute it slowly over that period of time it to ably wouldn’t be noticeable. Let’s hope it isn’t an all at once thing.
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June 20, 2024, 05:02:41 AM
#27
~snip~
Nevertheless, we should keep an eye in the next 4 months or so and there could be entities who's going to take advantage of this news to create chaos in the market to bring down the price and for them to buy more.


This has been happening for years, every now and then someone puts out a story about how the bankruptcy trustee will start distributing coins and that it will crash the market. Now there is some truth in the fact that something is happening, but I look at it from an optimistic angle - those who would have sold BTC anyway chose cash payment, and those who chose BTC logically should not sell immediately.

Although there is no doubt that those who want to buy as cheaply as possible will always try to take advantage of every "negative" news - but I am personally glad that the end of that drama can finally be seen. Honestly, I have been reading and hearing about it for ten years and I wonder how it is possible that something can last so long considering that it happened in Japan, which was once known for its efficiency in everything.
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June 20, 2024, 02:09:25 AM
#26
Glad so see an old head like you (no offense). Good luck to those claimants this October, really hard to see how big/small it is, but maybe it might put a dent on the price. And recently, we have seen the price going down this month again, so it's not good.

Although technically, we should be in the bull run by now, but it seems historically June is a down turn to us.

Nevertheless, we should keep an eye in the next 4 months or so and there could be entities who's going to take advantage of this news to create chaos in the market to bring down the price and for them to buy more.
I had about similar situation, but I was certainly much much richer than C10H15N, he is a poor person, I am super wealthy, I had 4 dollars in it Cheesy Lol, all jokes aside I gave up on that long time ago as well and not really considering to do anything to get it back, because it is just four dollars BUT nevertheless I like seeing others get paid.

If this whole thing finally ends one day and they all get paid and nobody has any money left that they are chasing, then I feel like that is going to be fine. MT.Gox basically made it obvious that they are going under a few months before it all began, so I took all my money out and at the time blockchain.info (now .com) was becoming bigger, so I put all my money there, now it is not even there.
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June 19, 2024, 03:14:44 AM
#25
I bet I'll never see the $1.23 they owe me...    Grin
They already returned the fiat portions they owed to everyone. If you gave them proper banking information and registered your claims on time you should have already received it in the last few months. I haven’t received any BTC from mtgox yet, but will report it when I do.

I was joking.  The $1.23 was dust in the account not worth the transaction fee or the time/effort to pursue.  I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have exited gox before the collapse.  It drove home the point "not your keys - not your coin" in a way that has served me well.

Good luck in recovering your coin. 

Glad so see an old head like you (no offense). Good luck to those claimants this October, really hard to see how big/small it is, but maybe it might put a dent on the price. And recently, we have seen the price going down this month again, so it's not good.

Although technically, we should be in the bull run by now, but it seems historically June is a down turn to us.

Nevertheless, we should keep an eye in the next 4 months or so and there could be entities who's going to take advantage of this news to create chaos in the market to bring down the price and for them to buy more.
legendary
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June 19, 2024, 02:37:16 AM
#24
I bet I'll never see the $1.23 they owe me...    Grin
They already returned the fiat portions they owed to everyone. If you gave them proper banking information and registered your claims on time you should have already received it in the last few months. I haven’t received any BTC from mtgox yet, but will report it when I do.

I was joking.  The $1.23 was dust in the account not worth the transaction fee or the time/effort to pursue.  I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have exited gox before the collapse.  It drove home the point "not your keys - not your coin" in a way that has served me well.

Good luck in recovering your coin. 
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June 19, 2024, 02:04:48 AM
#23
I bet I'll never see the $1.23 they owe me...    Grin

They already returned the fiat portions they owed to everyone. If you gave them proper banking information and registered your claims on time you should have already received it in the last few months. I haven’t received any BTC from mtgox yet, but will report it when I do.
legendary
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June 18, 2024, 05:19:35 PM
#22
I bet I'll never see the $1.23 they owe me...    Grin
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June 18, 2024, 05:16:43 PM
#21
@cryptomaniac_xxx. This does not concern shock or to surprise everyone. This is only a reality that there might be an occurrence that will not be good for the price of our coins. In any case, I wish that the creditors will not dump everything on everyone's faces with our mouths open on 1 day hehehe.

However yes, everyone should be ready on October 2024. This will be judgement day.



Regardless what will be the occurrence, if there will be a dump, we are post-halving already and for sure you know that this is the catalyst for a eventual bull run. So it might just be a short term effect to us, but in the long run, the price is going to be on parabolic rise.

And again, if in October there will be a dump because of the Mt Gox effect, then another golden opportunity to accumulate. So let's just be positive that at the end of it all, good things are going to come for us in the future and finally, we can rest this case and the skeleton is out of the closet already.
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June 03, 2024, 05:49:17 AM
#20
Agreed, we knew of this information already. However, this news might also be taken as a reminder for others that the chance of a big dump is coming soon and cause everyone to be fearful. I reckon it might be better to wait for this big dump occurrence before everyone begins buying again.

I cannot predict the future, however, we can be certain that some of the altcoins with communities that continue to support them will survive a big dump.
No one knows what actually is about to happen until it does. But you're right, we've got some up as of today and if someone out there is wanting to buy some before another great surge comes. Then, it's best to wait for that dump to occur first as it's like pull and push effect with these news and for sure a dump will come again. I'm not just sure about how big it is going to be because the big one that we're waiting for might be the one that have we've seen on $58kish.
legendary
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June 02, 2024, 08:17:14 PM
#19
We all knew one day it would finally come and those coins would move. Bitcoin at the moment isn’t really shaken up by the market. As you can see there was not much movement due to the news. Maybe because it’s another 4-5 months before it’s actually sent to the retail users.

Bitcoin might survive this dump but I wonder what will happen to BitcoinCash. I am sure many will want to hold some bitcoin but Bitcoin cash most likely they will liquidate. Should be interesting to watch.

Agreed, we knew of this information already. However, this news might also be taken as a reminder for others that the chance of a big dump is coming soon and cause everyone to be fearful. I reckon it might be better to wait for this big dump occurrence before everyone begins buying again.

I cannot predict the future, however, we can be certain that some of the altcoins with communities that continue to support them will survive a big dump.
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