Topic: mtgox criminal investigation? - page 2. (Read 5310 times)
What's the bet the fat fuck gets charged with ebezzlement?
what do you think will happen if we report it to the police? Nothing will change...
About the pending payments? So you are going to make a complaint to the Japanese police? It will be of no use + you will have to bear the expenses for travelling to Japan and securing the visa.
what do you think will happen if we report it to the police? Nothing will change...
I just heard about the law suit case: Greene v. MtGox Inc, U.S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois, No. 14-01437
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/illinois-man-files-class-action-lawsuit-against-bitcoin-exchange-mtgox/
I am wondering how to join the case..... I sold all the coins for USD on MtGox earlier and requested cash transaction around a month before MtGox collapsed. but none of the transactions happened, and according to their reply mail, the funds were "perfectly safe, just need a bit of time to do the wire transfer".
no idea if it makes any difference for USD cash funds from Bitcoins.
As far as I know, all their assets have been frozen by the Japanese court. That includes the coins and the fiat reserves. But if the cash is with some bank (or with some intermediate service), then I think you'll receive it without much delay.
I just heard about the law suit case: Greene v. MtGox Inc, U.S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois, No. 14-01437
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/illinois-man-files-class-action-lawsuit-against-bitcoin-exchange-mtgox/
I am wondering how to join the case..... I sold all the coins for USD on MtGox earlier and requested cash transaction around a month before MtGox collapsed. but none of the transactions happened, and according to their reply mail, the funds were "perfectly safe, just need a bit of time to do the wire transfer".
no idea if it makes any difference for USD cash funds from Bitcoins.
A source close to the investigation
The Japanese was "捜査関係者", literally "someone connected with the investigation". It's the standard way the Japanese media report off-the-record briefing.
A source close to the investigation
I bet they have them.
While mtgox/Mark doesn't talk much and IIRC just said the coins are "lost" or "temporarily unavailable" it is widely assumed that they have been stolen by hackers or embezzled. AFAIK there's just legal actions going on concerning mtgox' bankruptcy (protection). Why no criminal investigation and search for the coins? If there is a bank robbery or even a house burglary the police come and investigate. Why not with mtgox where insane amounts of value was lost? Did we just forget to report it to the police? Why don't we report it and they confiscate the servers and investigate, as they would in a case of child pornography ... instead of risking that Mark or the hackers (if they still have access) wipe any traces.
I know some Tokyo residents have complained to the police, and there is a police investigation going on, separately from the bankruptcy proceeding.
From today's newspaper (Sankei Shinbun):
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20140417-00000505-san-soci
My translation (Warning - IANATranslator):
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The bitcoin exchange Mt Gox has had its application for rehabilitation denied by the Tokyo District Court and seems likely to file for bankruptcy, but the police continue their investigation, both by analyzing data provided by the company and by gathering evidence from users who are claiming losses. However, they have not yet formed a full picture of what occurred.
In the data they presented to the police after their application for rehabilitation, Mt Gox said that their bitcoins were stolen through a system problem. The police are gathering evidence from Mark Karpeles and continue to analyse data.
A source close to the investigation said, "If this theft happened it may be a classifiable as a computer fraud, like theft of electronic money", but says that they have not yet confirmed that the theft really happened.
The investigation source claims Mt Gox did not even talk to them about losses amounting to 2,800,000,000 yen in cash, and says, "Not to have reported this is astonishing. I wonder if it was really stolen."
In the data they presented to the police after their application for rehabilitation, Mt Gox said that their bitcoins were stolen through a system problem. The police are gathering evidence from Mark Karpeles and continue to analyse data.
A source close to the investigation said, "If this theft happened it may be a classifiable as a computer fraud, like theft of electronic money", but says that they have not yet confirmed that the theft really happened.
The investigation source claims Mt Gox did not even talk to them about losses amounting to 2,800,000,000 yen in cash, and says, "Not to have reported this is astonishing. I wonder if it was really stolen."
A very well put and valid question if you ask me. This type of thing can't just be left to work it self out people need to put the pressure of these epic fudge ups and make them pay.
I bet they have them.
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Hi!
While mtgox/Mark doesn't talk much and IIRC just said the coins are "lost" or "temporarily unavailable" it is widely assumed that they have been stolen by hackers or embezzled. AFAIK there's just legal actions going on concerning mtgox' bankruptcy (protection). Why no criminal investigation and search for the coins? If there is a bank robbery or even a house burglary the police come and investigate. Why not with mtgox where insane amounts of value was lost? Did we just forget to report it to the police? Why don't we report it and they confiscate the servers and investigate, as they would in a case of child pornography ... instead of risking that Mark or the hackers (if they still have access) wipe any traces.
Bernhard
While mtgox/Mark doesn't talk much and IIRC just said the coins are "lost" or "temporarily unavailable" it is widely assumed that they have been stolen by hackers or embezzled. AFAIK there's just legal actions going on concerning mtgox' bankruptcy (protection). Why no criminal investigation and search for the coins? If there is a bank robbery or even a house burglary the police come and investigate. Why not with mtgox where insane amounts of value was lost? Did we just forget to report it to the police? Why don't we report it and they confiscate the servers and investigate, as they would in a case of child pornography ... instead of risking that Mark or the hackers (if they still have access) wipe any traces.
Bernhard
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