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Stephen Gornick

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Quote from: Grouver (BtcBalance) on June 21, 2012, 04:57:15 PM

Not sure about you, but if more banks are gonna do this, alot of Mtgox customers and not only Mtgox customers will be annoyed since they will simply not get there money into any exchange easy as nowadays.

You might want to let your bank know that there is a less disruptive step they could take than feezing accounts. Ask them if they know of Yubico's Yubikey.

P4man

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Quote from: Grouver (BtcBalance) on June 21, 2012, 04:57:15 PM

Quote from: P4man on June 21, 2012, 04:33:31 PM

Its actually understandable. If some hacker compromised your system, sending money via homebanking from your bank account to MtGox and convert the stolen funds to btc is the smart thing to do. Frustrating as it may be to someone who actually wants to send money to gox from a clean system, I suspect this measure has prevented more fraud than it annoyed actual gox customers.

So let me write down and see if I understand your statement right.
Cause thiefs comprise computers and convert the money of its victim to bitcoin, banks are preventing transactions to bitcoin exchanges cause of this reason?

Not sure about you, but if more banks are gonna do this, alot of Mtgox customers and not only Mtgox customers will be annoyed since they will simply not get there money into any exchange easy as nowadays.
I also don't think banks did blocked Mtgox EUR for this particularly reason you stated. But we will hear when I make the call tomorrow.

Its the same reason just about any antivirus will flag cgminer as malware. It isnt malware if you knowingly installed it, but for most users, it will indeed be (part of) malware.

Now the bank should make it easy to let you do the transfer anyway, after checking with you that you knowingly transferred it to mtgox, but that they flag the transaction as suspicious and even block it, I can totally understand. Banks are liable for losses due to fraud, its in their interest and actually in the interest of 99.99% of its customers who dont trade on mtgox.

Grouver (BtcBalance)

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Quote from: P4man on June 21, 2012, 04:33:31 PM

Its actually understandable. If some hacker compromised your system, sending money via homebanking from your bank account to MtGox and convert the stolen funds to btc is the smart thing to do. Frustrating as it may be to someone who actually wants to send money to gox from a clean system, I suspect this measure has prevented more fraud than it annoyed actual gox customers.

So let me write down and see if I understand your statement right.
Cause thiefs comprise computers and convert the money of its victim to bitcoin, banks are preventing transactions to bitcoin exchanges cause of this reason?

Not sure about you, but if more banks are gonna do this, alot of Mtgox customers and not only Mtgox customers will be annoyed since they will simply not get there money into any exchange easy as nowadays.
I also don't think banks did blocked Mtgox EUR for this particularly reason you stated. But we will hear when I make the call tomorrow.

P4man

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Its actually understandable. If some hacker compromised your system, sending money via homebanking from your bank account to MtGox and convert the stolen funds to btc is the smart thing to do. Frustrating as it may be to someone who actually wants to send money to gox from a clean system, I suspect this measure has prevented more fraud than it annoyed actual gox customers.

wachtwoord

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The distance is not the problem the speed is. In 1 second it decided I have a virus? Even if they could I would sue them for criminally breaking into my system. I told the first guy I phoned he was a fucking idiot, but phrased it nicely. It's a bit like talking to a four-year-old.

Oh well, he likely even believed his own mumblings, people in call centers aren't the worlds brightest Lips sealed

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^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.

Intersango also uses Bank Zachodni WBK, BIC WBKPPLPP.

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I have had the same issues with the ING. Stopped me buying more Bitcoins when they were 30% cheaper ($4.50) plus I couldn't use internet banking for a week twice. I retried the transfer as those people insisted I had a virus. I was pretty pissed off and asked the second guy for his education and told him mine and magically got referred to someone who could tell me a little more. Basically ING refused to do business with them and that was it.

Fucking bank. Not doing business is fine, but lying and saying it is because of a virus is fraud and people should go to jail imho.

^This. They also claimed I had a virus/rootkit. The first time I was sceptical but hey, who knows. I ran every tool I deemed useful, but found nothing. It didn't make any sense anyway, because the moment it was blocked was as soon as I hit the final button for the transfer, not as soon as I logged in or anything.

Anyway, when I got that resolved, I wanted to use intersango instead, and got the same bloody thing! I talked to this guy on the phone, and his argument was that even those tools "can't guarantee there is no rootkit." Oh, and your bloody system can bloody do it from bloody halfway across the country!? Idiots.

I never managed to get transferred to someone with a smidgen of intelligence Sad

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Quote from: BTCurious on June 21, 2012, 01:48:42 PM

Just a heads up: Intersango uses the same bank account, and is also blocked by the Dutch ING.

Are you sure Intersango use the same polish bank account as MtGox? I transfered euros to Intersango yesterday, and they arrived today.

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Quote from: Grouver (BtcBalance) on June 21, 2012, 01:50:55 PM

Quote from: BTCurious on June 21, 2012, 01:48:42 PM

Just a heads up: Intersango uses the same bank account, and is also blocked by the Dutch ING.

Funny how I already made tons of tranasctions to intersango and never had a single problem.
Now my first time to mtgoxEUR and all goes wrong.

That was back in November... Maybe intersango switched banks? Not sure.

Grouver (BtcBalance)

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Quote from: BTCurious on June 21, 2012, 01:48:42 PM

Just a heads up: Intersango uses the same bank account, and is also blocked by the Dutch ING.

Funny how I already made tons of tranasctions to intersango and never had a single problem.
Now my first time to mtgoxEUR and all goes wrong.

EDIT: Called with the ING bank. They said my bank account isn't blocked but the tranaction IS rolled back since the Polish account IS blocked.
I need to call the bank tommorow since the department that has all the info (about why the tranasction was rolled back) doesn't work at the evening.
Will keep you guys posted.

BTCurious

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^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.

I had the same issue back in November and December, they actually blocked my account and I had to reactivate my TAN function. Just a heads up: Intersango uses the same bank account, and is also blocked by the Dutch ING.

They still piss me off, tbh. The German branch of ING only gives the user a call to ask if they're sure, but doesn't meddle any further.

Grouver (BtcBalance)

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Hello,

18 June 2012 I transfered 100 euros to my Mtgox EUR account.
Today I got a letter from my bank wich said that I recently made a transaction of 100 euros to a foreign Polish bank account which has been blocked. The made payment to the blocked account will be transferred back to my account in a short period of time.

Here is the proof: (in dutch though)

https://i.imgur.com/y4aoI.jpg

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