pricks want to know everyone who's ever traded on gox.
Yep. This is what AML/KYC is really all about.
Topic: MTGOX SUBPOENAED BY US PROSECUTOR - page 2. (Read 4616 times)
Yep. This is what AML/KYC is really all about.
Fair enough. Kindly show me the rule from the federal rules of civil procedure.
To show, what exactly? You agree that grand juries issue subpoenas before a person is charged, right? You agree that Congress issues subpoenas before a person is charged, right?
You know about how grand juries can force people to testify against themselves (before the grand jury) by giving them use immunity, right?
You claim to have graduated from a law school in the United States, right?
In cases that I'm in, if the opposing party won't come to a deposition or hearing, I file a motion to compel - not a subpoena. However, if I need to depose a non-party, I get a subpoena to ensure they'll come testify or produce documents. Maybe its different where you practice.
In this case we're talking about U.S. federal law, no?
(I guess that assumes the news got it right, that it was the U.S., issuing a subpoena to Mt. Gox. It's certainly possible that the reporter got the details wrong, and the subpoena came from a state, and/or was issued to an individual.)
Fair enough. Kindly show me the rule from the federal rules of civil procedure.
In cases that I'm in, if the opposing party won't come to a deposition or hearing, I file a motion to compel - not a subpoena. However, if I need to depose a non-party, I get a subpoena to ensure they'll come testify or produce documents. Maybe its different where you practice.
In cases that I'm in, if the opposing party won't come to a deposition or hearing, I file a motion to compel - not a subpoena. However, if I need to depose a non-party, I get a subpoena to ensure they'll come testify or produce documents. Maybe its different where you practice.
As they break everyone associated with SR they will follow this information up the chain to the big fish.
Also, I think there must be a pending suit in a civil matter or charges filed in a criminal matter before a subpoena can be issued (the suit or charges are against someone one else, you don't get subpoenaed to testify in a case in which you're already a party).
No, that's completely incorrect.
I love the "about face" the Japanese just did... They went from, "It's not our problem you lost Bitcoins, guess you should'a been trading real currency" to "Well, this is a serious matter and it has our full attention."
I wonder how that transpired..?
I wonder how that transpired..?
The US DOJ got involved. It makes Japanese regulators look asleep at the switch.
It's like a slap in the face. What did they expect? Gox has so many USA customers...
I love the "about face" the Japanese just did... They went from, "It's not our problem you lost Bitcoins, guess you should'a been trading real currency" to "Well, this is a serious matter and it has our full attention."
I wonder how that transpired..?
I wonder how that transpired..?
The US DOJ got involved. It makes Japanese regulators look asleep at the switch.
As someone with coins on Gox, I take this a very positive development. It offers an alternative reason why Karpeles and Gox are acting the way they are, instead of the "all the coins are missing" explanation, which if true, seems to be the worst possible outcome.
Compared to the other rather wacky theories about what happened, I agree this is more likely what has happened as well. The link does mention that it was sent sometime this month, which I guess would have been right before the withdrawals were frozen.
No reason to believe the stories are mutually exclusive. About the only part that doesn't make sense is that this was all caused by the transaction malleability issue.
FWIW, the subpoena may be for his testimony in a case unrelated MTG's operations directly. Also, I think there must be a pending suit in a civil matter or charges filed in a criminal matter before a subpoena can be issued (the suit or charges are against someone one else, you don't get subpoenaed to testify in a case in which you're already a party). His options are to quash the subpoena or take a free trip to where ever he has to go and give testimony/deliver documents in lieu of a trip. Don't read too much into this.
Also, for your reading pleasure: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1783
Also, for your reading pleasure: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1783
As someone with coins on Gox, I take this a very positive development. It offers an alternative reason why Karpeles and Gox are acting the way they are, instead of the "all the coins are missing" explanation, which if true, seems to be the worst possible outcome.
Compared to the other rather wacky theories about what happened, I agree this is more likely what has happened as well. The link does mention that it was sent sometime this month, which I guess would have been right before the withdrawals were frozen.
I love the "about face" the Japanese just did... They went from, "It's not our problem you lost Bitcoins, guess you should'a been trading real currency" to "Well, this is a serious matter and it has our full attention."
I wonder how that transpired..?
I wonder how that transpired..?
As someone with coins on Gox, I take this a very positive development. It offers an alternative reason why Karpeles and Gox are acting the way they are, instead of the "all the coins are missing" explanation, which if true, seems to be the worst possible outcome.
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-mtgox-subpoenaed-by-us-prosecutor-2014-2
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101446338
Keeps getting better. Japanese authorities also looking into Gox.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101446338
Keeps getting better. Japanese authorities also looking into Gox.
.. and this is precisely why we have a justice system. This isn't bearish news.
^Good,this could get interesting.
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-mtgox-subpoenaed-by-us-prosecutor-2014-2
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101446338
Keeps getting better. Japanese authorities also looking into Gox.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101446338
Keeps getting better. Japanese authorities also looking into Gox.
Apparently it was sent "sometime this month".
The halting of transactions and the eventual shuttering of the site seems to make much more sense now.
The halting of transactions and the eventual shuttering of the site seems to make much more sense now.
erm how can the US subpoena a company based in japan? 
Print it out and send it by international mail?
erm how can the US subpoena a company based in japan?
Ask Kim Dotcom.
pricks want to know everyone who's ever traded on gox.
not to mention another potential asset grab.
not to mention another potential asset grab.
I suspect they're looking for dealers who were using Gox to funnel money.
pricks want to know everyone who's ever traded on gox.
not to mention another potential asset grab.
not to mention another potential asset grab.
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