Muhammad Ali Jr. Detained At Airport For Second Time

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Quote from: Tyrantt on March 20, 2017, 01:59:27 AM

Is being rich and all stopping someone at all? tbh, if I were in the airport security team, I wouldn't even bother remembering him or his face, tbh I have no idea how he looks rn. Don't you think there's someone who's been detained twice also but we didn't hear about that guy? why? If his name is muhammad, then too bad, he couldn't have been named Jim and there would probably be no problems at all.

Excellent reply. Every day, dozens if not hundreds of individuals are detained at airports within the United States and abroad. Only a very small fraction of these individuals happen to be Muslims. Also, out of the millions of Muslims who travel by air every year, only a very small fraction get detained.

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Quote from: GreenBits on March 19, 2017, 09:37:12 PM

Quote from: Tyrantt on March 19, 2017, 02:12:06 PM

oh boy do I love cases like those where someone being a son/brother/relative of someone famous thinks he's beyond everyone else and deserves a special treatment. So what if he was detained at the airport? it's a common measure now, get of your high horse.

That might be valid, until you consider this is the second time it happened, and the first time he was held for a pretty considerable amount of time, and he is a frequent traveller. You would hope that the TSA isnt so fucking stupid it needs to interview someone it just vetted twice in a month?

But, these are the guys that grab ass and balls for a living, so I guess they are just making lemonade by needlessly harassing visitors.

And we all know, this guy has sooooo much incentive to be a terrorist. Being rich and all.

Is being rich and all stopping someone at all? tbh, if I were in the airport security team, I wouldn't even bother remembering him or his face, tbh I have no idea how he looks rn. Don't you think there's someone who's been detained twice also but we didn't hear about that guy? why? If his name is muhammad, then too bad, he couldn't have been named Jim and there would probably be no problems at all.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on March 19, 2017, 02:12:06 PM

oh boy do I love cases like those where someone being a son/brother/relative of someone famous thinks he's beyond everyone else and deserves a special treatment. So what if he was detained at the airport? it's a common measure now, get of your high horse.

That might be valid, until you consider this is the second time it happened, and the first time he was held for a pretty considerable amount of time, and he is a frequent traveller. You would hope that the TSA isnt so fucking stupid it needs to interview someone it just vetted twice in a month?

But, these are the guys that grab ass and balls for a living, so I guess they are just making lemonade by needlessly harassing visitors.

And we all know, this guy has sooooo much incentive to be a terrorist. Being rich and all.

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Quote from: Challenger2015 on March 19, 2017, 02:02:49 PM

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Quote from: darkseid1199 on March 19, 2017, 08:47:58 AM

With Trumps new immigration laws , anyone with a moslem name is bound to stopped and searched for a detailed security analysis before they go. It shows how racist the whole thing is.

Dude, this is going on ever since the 9/11, and much before Trump became the president of the United States. There is an old saying in English. It is like this: "What goes around......comes around". Refrain from blowing up people, and no one will detain you.

Is a Russian proverb, but otherwise I support you. On the other hand, maybe Muslim leaders specifically incite hatred of Muslims that they are not out of Muslim countries. They need a lot of soldiers.

Close to 30,000 individuals traveled to Syria from the European Union, in order to join the Islamic State. If you look at the per capita recruitment, then the ISIS recruitment from the EU is much more than that in the Muslim-majority nations.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on March 19, 2017, 02:12:06 PM

oh boy do I love cases like those where someone being a son/brother/relative of someone famous thinks he's beyond everyone else and deserves a special treatment. So what if he was detained at the airport? it's a common measure now, get of your high horse.

One of the most difficult tests of man is money and power. There is an option when a person uses someone else's glory which he is not worthy. I hope this will be a lesson for him.

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oh boy do I love cases like those where someone being a son/brother/relative of someone famous thinks he's beyond everyone else and deserves a special treatment. So what if he was detained at the airport? it's a common measure now, get of your high horse.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 19, 2017, 12:48:42 PM

Quote from: darkseid1199 on March 19, 2017, 08:47:58 AM

With Trumps new immigration laws , anyone with a moslem name is bound to stopped and searched for a detailed security analysis before they go. It shows how racist the whole thing is.

Dude, this is going on ever since the 9/11, and much before Trump became the president of the United States. There is an old saying in English. It is like this: "What goes around......comes around". Refrain from blowing up people, and no one will detain you.

Is a Russian proverb, but otherwise I support you. On the other hand, maybe Muslim leaders specifically incite hatred of Muslims that they are not out of Muslim countries. They need a lot of soldiers.

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Quote from: darkseid1199 on March 19, 2017, 08:47:58 AM

With Trumps new immigration laws , anyone with a moslem name is bound to stopped and searched for a detailed security analysis before they go. It shows how racist the whole thing is.

Dude, this is going on ever since the 9/11, and much before Trump became the president of the United States. There is an old saying in English. It is like this: "What goes around......comes around". Refrain from blowing up people, and no one will detain you.

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With Trumps new immigration laws , anyone with a moslem name is bound to stopped and searched for a detailed security analysis before they go. It shows how racist the whole thing is.

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Quote from: andrei56 on March 13, 2017, 08:28:10 PM

This is probably going to be an every day thing for Muslims living in America from now on.

It might be a every day thing but things are getting worse with the level of terrorism every country will be scrutinize you if you are from a particular religion and if the propaganda of that religion is to kill people those who are not following the religion itself is the cause of these issues.

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This is probably going to be an every day thing for Muslims living in America from now on.

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Quote from: novemberwoah on March 13, 2017, 02:53:50 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 12, 2017, 03:02:18 AM

Quote from: novemberwoah on March 12, 2017, 12:24:08 AM

The son of boxer Muhammad Ali was detained with his mother because they were religious Muslims. I also saw the news that airport officials ask whether he was a Muslim or not and have the name from the Arabic language. He and his mother flew with the airline JetBlue Airways to Florida will be allowed entry plane after talking with the Ministry of Homeland Security by phone and show a driver's license and passport in the name himself. Policies to ban the muslim entry to American territory should be to be studied again, it's too complicated to me.

Exactly. This is the second time that Muhammad Ali Jr was detained. This is crystal clear that this is directly linked to the President 's order to ban Muslim for entering United States. But Ali Jr is an American citizen. Of course, he wouldn't deny that he is a Muslim but he is also an American. I know that the executive order in binding but this could be a subject for legal review. This order's preferential treatment of Christians over Muslims violates the first amendment on freedom of religion IMHO.

Exactly! I agree with you. Ali Jr. is an American citizen, but he detained because having a name in Arabic. He was detained in the country where he lived and it was very unreasonable. America as the largest democracy is not supposed to do that, it would eliminate democracy in America on religious freedom. This policy must be changed because it is not perfect if run.

I am sure that Mr. Mohammed Ali Jr might have traveled hundreds of times by air. He never had any issues, with the exception of these two isolated incidents. Every year, tens of thousands of people are detained at the American airports. But none of them make such hue and cry.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 12, 2017, 03:02:18 AM

Quote from: novemberwoah on March 12, 2017, 12:24:08 AM

The son of boxer Muhammad Ali was detained with his mother because they were religious Muslims. I also saw the news that airport officials ask whether he was a Muslim or not and have the name from the Arabic language. He and his mother flew with the airline JetBlue Airways to Florida will be allowed entry plane after talking with the Ministry of Homeland Security by phone and show a driver's license and passport in the name himself. Policies to ban the muslim entry to American territory should be to be studied again, it's too complicated to me.

Exactly. This is the second time that Muhammad Ali Jr was detained. This is crystal clear that this is directly linked to the President 's order to ban Muslim for entering United States. But Ali Jr is an American citizen. Of course, he wouldn't deny that he is a Muslim but he is also an American. I know that the executive order in binding but this could be a subject for legal review. This order's preferential treatment of Christians over Muslims violates the first amendment on freedom of religion IMHO.

Exactly! I agree with you. Ali Jr. is an American citizen, but he detained because having a name in Arabic. He was detained in the country where he lived and it was very unreasonable. America as the largest democracy is not supposed to do that, it would eliminate democracy in America on religious freedom. This policy must be changed because it is not perfect if run.

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Quote from: numismatist on March 12, 2017, 03:04:30 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on March 11, 2017, 11:31:40 PM

After the 9/11, the security and surveillance in the international airports were increased, and a lot of people get detained as a result of it. Another thing is that a large number of plane hijackers have the first name as "Mohammed".

A better clue regarding the 9/11 hijackers would not have been surname pattern matching, but their origins from Saudi Arabia.
This reminds me of that timespan of 1933 ~ 1945 where they had been killing people by religional believes.

A majority of the attackers were Saudi Arabian, but the Al Qaeda could have recruited members from any Islamic nation. Their religion was more important than their Saudi origin. Do you believe a Christian Saudi could have done this?

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ALI WAS AN ASS HOLE END OF STORY..
GREAT BOXER ..

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ELVIS..he got drafted and went to war..

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ALI CANNOT EVEN GIVE IS OWN CHILDREN ANYTHING..Just shows how great he was Cheesy

Oh then if your talking about the greatest boxer MIKE TYSON ..No man would of beat him at his peak
NO MAN..

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on March 11, 2017, 12:43:20 PM

The son of renowned boxer Muhammad Ali was detained by officials at a U.S. airport for the second time in little more than a month, according to a tweet posted Friday by Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla. Wasserman Schultz, former chair of the Democratic National Committee, posted a photo of herself and Muhammad Ali Jr.

“On way home on DOMESTIC FLIGHT Muhammad Ali Jr. detained AGAIN by @DHSgov. Religiously profiling son of ‘The Greatest’ will not make us safe,” she wrote.

Ibtimes: http://www.ibtimes.com/muhammad-ali-jr-detained-airport-second-time-during-trumps-travel-ban-2506431

Though the policies made are good for the United States of America it needs refinement in its implementation so as not to cause problems with people who are already registered as a US citizen. Since the law was implemented abruptly the protocols were not that flawless but if complaints will be filed then the government may take note of that and will study the implementation and make a good innovation on its implementation.

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When turkey tried to go to Holland for a rally it reminds me of this below..

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Unprecedented Honest Bone Chilling TV Interview with a Muslim ...
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NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN IF THEY BECOME THE No1 RELIGION Roll Eyes

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LETS GET BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND HAVE THIS WAR..

This is the plan for the western world..THEY HOPE Wink

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IT'S TIME LET THE GAMES BEGIN ..WIPE THESE ISLAMIC FUCKS OUT

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You say why angry over BREXIT.?.

Well if all this ISLAM SHIT never happened i think most people would of voted to stay in the EU..

We all thought the EU as let all this ISLAMIST in and they can tell us what to do from a foreign country
Brussels
So we all thought lets get out before we become an islamist country..
As well as a couple of other things BUT I know 75% would of voted to stay in the uk if islam never spread so much..

MAMA MERKEL WHAT WAS YOU UP TO Angry

..WHAT WAS YOUR AGENDA?..

You are not that stupid..

democracy is something we all vote on..SO WHY IS FAIRY TALES INVOLVED ..RELIGION Angry

HARRY POTTER is not democracy we are voting on something that's not real..

RELIGION AS NO PART IN POLITICS..FULL STOP..
It's make believe so how in a 21st century democracy can make believe be voted on Huh

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YOU BACKWARD RELIGIOUS FUCKS GROW UP..

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OH and don't forget the way you went to holland to rally your own islamist I.E your own peoples..

We Brits have British in every country on this planet and we can attack from every corner of the globe Wink

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JUST IN CASE YOU THINK THE UK IS A SMALL ISLAND.. Wink

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DON'T FUCK WITH US BRITISH ..WE ARE ALREADY ANGRY OVER BREXIT..

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To the turks your leaders are setting you up for a war ..Me thinks are leaders are doing the same.

WHY FLOOD OUR LANDS WITH ISLAMS..AN AGENDA Wink

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THEY KNEW IT WOULD CAUSE TROUBLE ..

GIVE UP YOUR RELIGIONS ..And we can all live in peace

Your religion is a sick religion ISLAM ..And i will go to any war to get rid of your religion I FUCKING HATE IT..

You are still living in the olden days ..You have no clue so as someone with a 21st century mind
i must tell you that you are a slave and not free..I WILL DIE FOR MY FREEDOM ..

And if i have to die i want to take the leaders with me Wink

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Now it's a good job i am from the UK because we will wipe you out with nukes Wink

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FUCKING MESS WITH US BRITS and you will be punished so badly Angry

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