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Its a private business, if the owner doesn't like gays and refuses to bake a cake for them then they should just go elsewhere. This shouldn't even be news. Life goes on.


I would have refused. It seems to me that any tolerance should have its limits. I don't want people with such views walked the streets where my kids go and touting their views. So it would be better for them and for us.
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Its a private business, if the owner doesn't like gays and refuses to bake a cake for them then they should just go elsewhere. This shouldn't even be news. Life goes on.

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I think this is absolutely disgusting in a multitude of ways, and I'm not talking in the way of them not wanting to bake a cake for the Gay wedding. I personally don't have an issue with Gay marriage in the least but people must understand the issue some religions and people have relating to it, and that is bound to occur. The real issue I have with this is the double standard is that present, if this was a Christian owned bakery the local and major news outlets would be their in seconds to pound reporting down peoples throats.

Not just the media but riots  would have already be in progress in order to boycott the company itself for doing this act. I think there was a story around last year about all this occuring around last year

Here is the Muslim bakery story - https://twitter.com/AndyHortin/status/833810934887911424?s=09

What do you guys think about this?

For me I dont think its any where disgusting in as much as I dont support the idea of the discrimination against Gay people, I still feel people have the right to their believe and at the same time to be respected by others if we want a peaceful co-existence afterall, its not the only bakery in the country and they can equally patronise other bakeries that are more receptive its their loss that the revenue will go to a competitor who is really in business to make money.
There are gay men who do not advertise their ideas and I such people are tolerant, but when he's being defiant it's annoying me. How am I supposed to explain to their children why they are? I won't go in the cafe if you sit there gay. I think that those who are not serving they are not bankrupt, quite the contrary.
legendary
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I don't get it myself. While I don't believe in discrimination for no good reason (I could give single fuck if someone is homosexual, more power to them), I certainly believe in any business owner's right to refuse service to anyone they choose. Just like I believe that homosexuals should boycott the dog shit out of this business. It's a two way street people. Why the hell would I want to spend my money at a place that doesn't want my business? Wouldn't want to enrich the fortunes of those bigoted assholes. So I say, make your voice heard with your wallet. I feel they (the Baker) would soon find how unpopular their attitude is amongst their customer base.

You can stand for whatever you want, but don't run when your ideology is called to task. Words and actions have serious, lasting consequences.

My wild guess is that there are at least as many radical muslims as gays, so on one hand he will lose customers (or maybe not, because I'm sure there aren't many homosexuals whose favourite bakery is run by an Arab) and on the other he'll get support from radicals. Anyway' he won't have to close the business as a result.
I think he had the right not to bake for them, I know it's rude, but it's not like there's only one bakery in town.
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I think this is absolutely disgusting in a multitude of ways, and I'm not talking in the way of them not wanting to bake a cake for the Gay wedding. I personally don't have an issue with Gay marriage in the least but people must understand the issue some religions and people have relating to it, and that is bound to occur. The real issue I have with this is the double standard is that present, if this was a Christian owned bakery the local and major news outlets would be their in seconds to pound reporting down peoples throats.

Not just the media but riots  would have already be in progress in order to boycott the company itself for doing this act. I think there was a story around last year about all this occuring around last year

Here is the Muslim bakery story - https://twitter.com/AndyHortin/status/833810934887911424?s=09

What do you guys think about this?
I have always thought that if you don't want to perform a job for a person or group of persons that should be your right, if you don't have it then you are a slave, the problem is not that Muslims can refuse to do it but why the Christians can’t, they are not defending their rights as well as the Muslims.
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I think that is discrimination. Beside from being a Muslim and not a supporter of same sex marriage, it is a real disrespect for the gays, and they are costumers, costumers are always right. You bake, we buy, what s wrong with that?
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I think this is absolutely disgusting in a multitude of ways, and I'm not talking in the way of them not wanting to bake a cake for the Gay wedding. I personally don't have an issue with Gay marriage in the least but people must understand the issue some religions and people have relating to it, and that is bound to occur. The real issue I have with this is the double standard is that present, if this was a Christian owned bakery the local and major news outlets would be their in seconds to pound reporting down peoples throats.

Not just the media but riots  would have already be in progress in order to boycott the company itself for doing this act. I think there was a story around last year about all this occuring around last year

Here is the Muslim bakery story - https://twitter.com/AndyHortin/status/833810934887911424?s=09

What do you guys think about this?

For me I dont think its any where disgusting in as much as I dont support the idea of the discrimination against Gay people, I still feel people have the right to their believe and at the same time to be respected by others if we want a peaceful co-existence afterall, its not the only bakery in the country and they can equally patronise other bakeries that are more receptive its their loss that the revenue will go to a competitor who is really in business to make money.
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Where isnt the media going ham on this like they do when Christians do. This shows how bias they are. I support the bakers though, If you have a right to be gay then i have the right not to bake you any cake. Your right of choice shouldn't make mine null and void.
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Because homosexuals are disgusting thing I think. Indeed, it is their right to choose to live as a gay, but to me it is a disgusting thing. And in Muslim same-sex relationships has been banned since antiquity, when the days of the Prophet Lut very many lesbian and gay couples and they got the awful punishment from God. Life being gay meant losing the beauty of the love of a woman. Lots of countries are cons against LGBT.
legendary
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I don't get it myself. While I don't believe in discrimination for no good reason (I could give single fuck if someone is homosexual, more power to them), I certainly believe in any business owner's right to refuse service to anyone they choose. Just like I believe that homosexuals should boycott the dog shit out of this business. It's a two way street people. Why the hell would I want to spend my money at a place that doesn't want my business? Wouldn't want to enrich the fortunes of those bigoted assholes. So I say, make your voice heard with your wallet. I feel they (the Baker) would soon find how unpopular their attitude is amongst their customer base.

You can stand for whatever you want, but don't run when your ideology is called to task. Words and actions have serious, lasting consequences.
legendary
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It's funny use the words NO NIGGERS ..NO PAKIS  NO WHITES ..It HITS HOME ..SMACK RIGHT IN THE FACE..

But people seem nothing wrong with NO GAYS..

They all walked into your shop all 3 will feel same emotion  .SADNESS OR WANT TO HIT YOU..

NO GAYS ..NO NIGGERS..NO PAKIS ..NO WHITES..It's all something we cannot help being      it's nature

Muslim can turn into a christian and christian can turn into a muslim ..
And both can forget about religion..They have a choice NOT TO BE AN ASS HOLE ..

And that's what the law states don't be an ass hole Cheesy

legendary
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REMEMBER THEY ARE SELLING TO THE PUBLIC..Not baking cakes for family only..

Now by law a shop as no right to refuse anyone under religious grounds .

Well i don't like hindu ..i don't like Christians ..When do you stop.

So you want to sell to the public BUT choose which people you sell too..

OH they are spotty not selling to him or her..
Oh one with a club foot get out Angry.. Cheesy

Sorry it doesn't work that way..

The fact that they are selling to the public doesn't make them a public service, they still have the right of admission. In other words; if they bankrupt is up to them too.
About your sign, it would be just needlessly offensive, but if you don't want that people you simply wouldn't profit from them, probably KKK or so would use your facility for their meetings... or not and you get bankrupt.
I would profit loads..

How many black people would go to my hotel knowing no white CRACKERS  Wink..

Then how many white people would come knowing no NIGGERS..

And my hotel be packed to the rafters knowing no PAKI ISLAMs  Cheesy Cheesy

But by law you should have no right to refuse anyone UNLESS they been causing some sort of trouble..
Like breaking the LAW..
legendary
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REMEMBER THEY ARE SELLING TO THE PUBLIC..Not baking cakes for family only..

Now by law a shop as no right to refuse anyone under religious grounds .

Well i don't like hindu ..i don't like Christians ..When do you stop.

So you want to sell to the public BUT choose which people you sell too..

OH they are spotty not selling to him or her..
Oh one with a club foot get out Angry.. Cheesy

Sorry it doesn't work that way..

The fact that they are selling to the public doesn't make them a public service, they still have the right of admission. In other words; if they bankrupt is up to them too.
About your sign, it would be just needlessly offensive, but if you don't want that people you simply wouldn't profit from them, probably KKK or so would use your facility for their meetings... or not and you get bankrupt.
legendary
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You're being mean to them! Their world is a paradox resembling a bit those drawings of Jehovah Witnesses' magazine. With a tiger and a lamb walking together by the green fields near a multi-racial family, where a black man and a white woman somehow had a Chinese son...

About "facts", the internet is not turning to be the information highway, but rather a disinformation highway; the seek for information created the "studies market", so now everybody has "a study" to verify his claims, no matter how twisted those studies are.

Back OT, I don't know if I would ever eat anything someone was forced to cook... probably isn't a good idea, is it?
RULE No1 if you a white British person ..NEVER EAT FROM A KEBAB SHOP..
Not unless you see them cook it in front of you..

Like kebab always on the front of the shop ..But then again what's in the KEBAB Cheesy..

I wont even eat out of a Muslim looking food take away shop..NEVER EVER..

THEY SPIT IN YOUR DINNER    Cheesy..
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Where is  Brad Avakian (Oregon Labor Commissioner) hiding now? Do we have any statements from him yet? It seems like he is having problems only with Christians. When Muslims harass the gays, it is perfectly halal.

This is the double standard that I'm referring to, the only time that public servants will come out and scrutinize people for stuff like this is when they know they'll be getting news coverage from the MSM who'll support their cause without an issue. When the opposite things happens to a Muslim bakery and people are outraged people won't come out and say anything because they think they'll be perceived as Racist, Islamophobic and so on.

This whole Islamophobia thing is something that was present at one point around 9/11 but it's not really something that is as widespread as the Liberal news organizations want people to believe, it's just used as something to say against people that don't support Liberal causes.

Islamophobia threat is being used as a powerful tool by the liberals. Cops are afraid to act in cases where the perpetrators are Muslims. A perfect example is the Rotherham child sex scandal, in which more than 1,400 native British children were targeted. The cops ignored it, as they were afraid that they would be accused of Islamophobia.
legendary
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I think that we should respect their decision.
There is no law that I have to accept offer from every customer.
If I don't have enough resources, time etc. to fulfill order, I have right to refuse.
It's freedom and democracy, after all.
Guys could simple ask other shop for the wedding cake.
If shop feels that making cakes for Gay wedding may ruin their reputation, and damage their business, they have right to refuse.
Do we want to force people in the free market what to do and how to lead their business?



They don't have a right to refuse..

Islam i.e religion is not the same as being gay..People change religion people cannot change being gay..

Like i own a hotel and this is my sign     forgive me for swearing..

BLACK BASTARDS NOT WELCOME..

WHITE BASTARDS NOT WELCOME

PAKI BASTARDS NOT WELCOME

Should i take my sign down or do i have a right to refuse anyone from those signs ..

Remember someone white cannot help who they are..
BUT RELIGION YOU CAN PREACH WHAT EVER YOU LIKE..It's a make belief system..

But do i have a right to put a sign in my window     remember i do own the hotel..

REMEMBER THEY ARE SELLING TO THE PUBLIC..Not baking cakes for family only..

Now by law a shop as no right to refuse anyone under religious grounds .

Well i don't like hindu ..i don't like Christians ..When do you stop.

So you want to sell to the public BUT choose which people you sell too..

OH they are spotty not selling to him or her..
Oh one with a club foot get out Angry.. Cheesy

Sorry it doesn't work that way..

legendary
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You're being mean to them! Their world is a paradox resembling a bit those drawings of Jehovah Witnesses' magazine. With a tiger and a lamb walking together by the green fields near a multi-racial family, where a black man and a white woman somehow had a Chinese son...

About "facts", the internet is not turning to be the information highway, but rather a disinformation highway; the seek for information created the "studies market", so now everybody has "a study" to verify his claims, no matter how twisted those studies are.

Back OT, I don't know if I would ever eat anything someone was forced to cook... probably isn't a good idea, is it?
legendary
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SJW's love -phobia ended words.
The problem is when both worlds collide: in this case Islamophobia vs Homophobia... they get a short-circuit in their only 2 brain cells and get unable to move.  Grin
The SJW's are the same people that go ahead and flip out when I point the obvious homophobia that is present in Islamic lands and is accepted by a good amount of the Islamic community and the amount of prison time and tortue these people are put to in Islamic areas and communities his horrid.

Though it's something the left will never admit to, as they can't accept that the Muslims aren't going to be good people all around and whenever we try to point these out we're Islamophobic, hate migrants, hate refugees, and so on and so forth. Someone is going to have to teach these people real life and give them the real data, not some spoonfed liberal garbage like what is present on CNN, and other Liberal news sources.
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Are they not in the times as of yet!? Roll Eyes
Didn't the leading actor who's movie won the oscar for best picture a Muslim and the movie he was portrayed in that same way?

Time to become more accepting of your fellow man unless all you are indeed stone cold hearted and never go forward and only stuck in the stone ages.
But look.. you use up the time technology. Television, telephones, computers, cars, cell phones and look what your using now.. the internet Shocked Shocked
Oh yes.. the western civilization's influence has been just so bad for your culture.
Just get off it already and accept the way the world is.. your bleak religion views are going the way of the cave man.
legendary
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@Daniel91

Seams like we are living on a World where everyone thinks he can command others what to do with their property.
You don't see so many non-US citizens asking for Trump to leave?
And how about hotels who refuse children? Or gays? Or lesbians?...

What you said just makes sense in a World where people understands up to where they can order someone to do something with what that someone owns... doesn't seams to be case of this one.
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