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Topic: Muslim "refugee" welfare parasites - 91.4% on food stamps, 68.3% on cash welfare - page 2. (Read 1210 times)

legendary
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First, US has not let very many refugees into the country... maybe 2-3k... (0.2% of the number Germany let into their country)

It is true that the US takes in only genuine refugees, unlike the case with Germany. In most of the cases, asylum permits are granted only if it can be proven that the ethnic group or community faces extreme harassment. The Americans have accepted Somali Bantu, Meskhetian Turk, Lhotshampa, Karen, and Hmong refugees during the past few years. And the total number of admissions vary from 30,000 to 50,000 per year.
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http://mangans.blogspot.com/2011/04/darwinian-double-whammy.html#comments

Wednesday, April 27, 2011
Darwinian Double Whammy

Helmuth Nyborg, a politically incorrect scientist, has produced a remarkable paper, The decay of Western civilization: Double relaxed Darwinian Selection (pdf). The issues discussed in the paper won't come as much of a surprise to readers here. The abstract:

This article briefly describes Lynn’s view on what makes modern populations rise and fall. It then provides a demographic analysis of what happens to modern sub-fertile high-IQ Western populations when Internal Relaxation of Darwinian Selection (IRDS) combines with External Relaxation (ERDS, in the form of super-fertile low-IQ non-Western immigration) into Double Relaxation of Darwinian Selection (DRDS). The genotypic IQ decline will ruin the economic and social infrastructure needed for quality education, welfare, democracy and civilization. DRDS is currently unopposed politically, so existing fertility differentials may eventually lead to Western submission or civil resistance. [My emphasis.]

Nyborg estimates that in Denmark, ethnic Danes will be outnumbered by those of foreign origin by 2085, that this will lead to a dramatic decline in the average national IQ. The results for Denmark can be extended, says Nyborg, to all of Western Europe.

Why were early dysgenic warnings neglected and the messengers demonized? Because too many leading scientists, politicians and intellectuals (Nyborg, 2003; in press) ignored Darwinian principles and started a historically hitherto unheard of voluntary, humanistic, democratic and financed replacement policy, whereby dwindling genetically weakened (Lynn, Harvey, & Nyborg, 2009) sub-fertile Western European populations will rapidly be replaced by more fertile low-IQ non-European immigrants.

The Left is the real bastion of creationism; by denying virtually all systematic human differences except superficial traits - and some even appear to deny that when they speak of the social construction of race - they leave no room for natural selection. Anyone who speaks about these things is vilified a la Watson or Summers or any number of others. Only a few academics, such as Nyborg, Lynn, Jensen, and Rushton, largely ignored by the public and deliberately ignored by the science media, discuss these things amongst themselves.

Furthermore, although we are constantly reminded of the need for smart, talented people, who strangely enough almost always seem to come from abroad, there's little recognition that a modern, industrial society is generally dependent on a certain level of average IQ, as opposed to specific industries. The message of IQ and the Wealth of Nations has not reached the public sphere and shows no sign of doing so.

Can anything be done at this point about the grim European (and American) future predicted by Nyborg? Well, as he says, this "may lead to Western submission or civil resistance"? I'll hazard a guess that the economic crisis may turn out to be the thing that turns this around. So much of Western displacement depends on money, make-work jobs, welfare. Already there are some (few) signs that Europeans are waking up, which would have remained on the slow burner absent the financial crisis.
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I find this hard to believe for 2 reasons...

First, US has not let very many refugees into the country... maybe 2-3k... (0.2% of the number Germany let into their country)

Second, the ones we actually let in are highly vetted... and rich (they bribed their way past immigration)... they don't need/qualify for welfare...

How could 91.4% of 2500 rich immigrants qualify for food stamps?  That doesn't even make sense


Edit: I see the OP image/data is from 2008-2013... so it's not talking about the current refugee situation at all
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The problem is that welfare mostly is simply the minimum to survive. Which means people that work for the same amount are working poor. And that is very bad if a country allows this.

The problem, for me, lies in the set borders. There should be a minimum wage because businesses tend to misuse their workers as cheap items in their business. And they try to harm the competition by paying even less. A very bad downspiral.

If there would be correct borders than such a competition fight could not be fighted on the back of the workers. All businesses would have the same rules so workers would be protected and could earn more than the minimum they would need to survive.

The problem is the unemployment and the competition fights together with missing rules.

Pushing people out of welfare... man you would have a civil war in  no time. They can't find job out of the blue. Not to speak of those that could not work for some reason.

No, those things happened in the past where welfare was unknown. It is a creepy situation for the rest of society. You would have to invest alot in police just to hold the uproar down that would follow.

Long-term welfare payments should be limited to the handicapped and sick people. Individuals who are not ready to work should be made ineligible to receive welfare payments after a maximum three months or four months. If these people can't find a decent job, then they should be made to do community service or other similar tasks.
This can be resolved by forcing these "refugees" to find a work and pay for working permit. Just for example, in Russia they have 90 days of grace period to prove their usefulness for the society.

Exception is usually made for students, deseased people, or those who can apply for a refugee status, through proving their declared origins in the court. Unfortunately for pakistani "refugees", a demonstration of fake syrian passport is not enough to prove anything.
legendary
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The problem is that welfare mostly is simply the minimum to survive. Which means people that work for the same amount are working poor. And that is very bad if a country allows this.

The problem, for me, lies in the set borders. There should be a minimum wage because businesses tend to misuse their workers as cheap items in their business. And they try to harm the competition by paying even less. A very bad downspiral.

If there would be correct borders than such a competition fight could not be fighted on the back of the workers. All businesses would have the same rules so workers would be protected and could earn more than the minimum they would need to survive.

The problem is the unemployment and the competition fights together with missing rules.

Pushing people out of welfare... man you would have a civil war in  no time. They can't find job out of the blue. Not to speak of those that could not work for some reason.

No, those things happened in the past where welfare was unknown. It is a creepy situation for the rest of society. You would have to invest alot in police just to hold the uproar down that would follow.

Long-term welfare payments should be limited to the handicapped and sick people. Individuals who are not ready to work should be made ineligible to receive welfare payments after a maximum three months or four months. If these people can't find a decent job, then they should be made to do community service or other similar tasks.
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But I know that not a few of the mostly younger ones are of the attitude that those working are stupid because they could get money without working too.

The problem lies with the nature of welfare payments. When a hardworking person earns just enough to meet his ends by working 12-hours a day, and another jobless individual is able to earn the same amount by claiming welfare receipts, the former would look like an idiot in front of the others. The only solution is to kick-out long-term claimants from the welfare payment system.

The problem is that welfare mostly is simply the minimum to survive. Which means people that work for the same amount are working poor. And that is very bad if a country allows this.

The problem, for me, lies in the set borders. There should be a minimum wage because businesses tend to misuse their workers as cheap items in their business. And they try to harm the competition by paying even less. A very bad downspiral.

If there would be correct borders than such a competition fight could not be fighted on the back of the workers. All businesses would have the same rules so workers would be protected and could earn more than the minimum they would need to survive.

The problem is the unemployment and the competition fights together with missing rules.

Pushing people out of welfare... man you would have a civil war in  no time. They can't find job out of the blue. Not to speak of those that could not work for some reason.

No, those things happened in the past where welfare was unknown. It is a creepy situation for the rest of society. You would have to invest alot in police just to hold the uproar down that would follow.
legendary
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But I know that not a few of the mostly younger ones are of the attitude that those working are stupid because they could get money without working too.

The problem lies with the nature of welfare payments. When a hardworking person earns just enough to meet his ends by working 12-hours a day, and another jobless individual is able to earn the same amount by claiming welfare receipts, the former would look like an idiot in front of the others. The only solution is to kick-out long-term claimants from the welfare payment system.
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Death toll reaches 70 as three-day mourning period begins in Pakistan after attack targets Christian minority at Easter.
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Can they work at all in the US as refugees? I thought there are certain restrictions so that they don't have much choice.

But I know that not a few of the mostly younger ones are of the attitude that those working are stupid because they could get money without working too.
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I have been saying this for quite long. The United States (as well as the European Union) will disintegrate just like the Soviet Union. If you remember, the Soviet Union collapsed after the population share of the parasites (Uzbeks, Azeris, Chechens.etc) crossed a certain threshold and put enormous pressure on the productive groups such as Russians, Balts and Germans.   
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the new generation of neurosurgeons and astronauts who are going to pay your pensions







http://rightwise.com/news/percentage-muslim-refugees-welfare-will-disturb/
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