My Bitcoin was stolen from Atomic wallet on the 3rd of June - page 2.

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Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 07:13:08 PM

I write this as a hope there might be an answer , this destroyed me and I dont know where else to turn.
Anyway thankyou
Sorry if this is wasting your time.

Sorry for your loss. I also hope that you will get the needed help you need. Don't be too hard on yourself to avoid developing health issues. It is painful to lose your fund after you have chosen a wallet that is generally seen as a decentralized one. You are not to blame for the loss because you didn't put your fund in a centralized wallet.

Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 08:30:27 PM

Thankyou for the replies.
Ive been taking many of those avenues and will continue to do so.
Hopefully technology will catch up with the hackers someday.

Atomic wallet actions since the hack has led to anger and suspicion as they have not updated victims, deleted old tweets, blocked victims and continue to leave their exploited software up for users to download and use. Its a warning as you have pointed out, dont trust Hot wallets, hardware wallets are the best places to store your Bitcoin and crypto.
Anyway thankyou for your replies and thoughts.

Atomic Wallet is supposed to give victims the needed support and feedback regarding the recovery process. But their actions might raise the suspicion that this hack was done by insiders. In choosing wallets, the best option now is decentralized and open-sourced wallets.

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Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 07:13:08 PM

Forgive me but my Bitcoin was stolen from the Atomic wallet on the 3rd of June as part of a massive draining of funds globally from that wallet. I just wondered if there was any way to recover or block the address of the hacker ? I can actually see where the stolen Bitcoin sits but cant get authorities or anyone of note to help me with it.

Block the address of the hacker? None.
Recover your money from hacking? For a long time, I don't know if there is/are any hacker that will return all of the money that they hacked into a particular exchange or whatever it is.

Authorities? What will they do? They can't track it unless the address has been posted online by somebody that already shared his/her real information online, or been used in some various transactions, but aside from that, they can't do anything to it. This is one cons of decentralization. Unless you know the owner of the address personally, you don't have any power to recover the money that you lost.

Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 07:13:08 PM

Atomic wallet appears to be actively wanting the hack to disappear and blocking victims from various social media platforms where it is, at the moment the only recourse is a legal one but that will take a long time.
I write this as a hope there might be an answer , this destroyed me and I dont know where else to turn.

I don't know the feeling of getting hacked because I didn't experienced losing money yet because the exchange got hacked etc.
Nevertheless, losing money to a hacker really hurts, but the only thing that you can do is to just learn, move forward, and move on. Just let the "Authorities" do their job (if they can trace it). No need to apologize as well. The developers of Atomic Wallet must be the one who apologizes to you, and to all users of it.

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Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 07:13:08 PM

Forgive me but my Bitcoin was stolen from the Atomic wallet on the 3rd of June as part of a massive draining of funds globally from that wallet. I just wondered if there was any way to recover or block the address of the hacker ? I can actually see where the stolen Bitcoin sits but cant get authorities or anyone of note to help me with it.

It wouldn't be bad if you posted the address where the BTC that was stolen from you is located, because someone might be able to connect that address to some centralized exchange, which would give you the possibility to block those funds. In addition, if you don't want to give up on trying to do something, first write a letter in which you will describe what happened to you and send it to all centralized exchanges with all the relevant information.

The chances are of course minimal, but considering the stolen amount, it is always possible that the hackers will be found one day.

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Quote from: Ayebabara on August 03, 2023, 07:20:51 AM

Thanks bringing this to my notice because I was also looking for a wallet to use. But before you used that Atomic Wallet, you would have asked question and people would have told you to use a reliable wallet instead of using your choice of wallet and now you lost all the funds.

That's right, it's better to hear people's opinions several times on the use of wallets than to understand and learn from your mistakes and your own experience once.
OP, my condolences to you. Losing is always very difficult, no matter how many Bitcoins you had in your wallet. We often regret our self-confidence and maybe our ignorance of complete and correct information. But in this age of the Internet, every situation must be approached very carefully. You are interested in finding a hacker, but what prevented you from coming to the forum earlier?

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Quote from: Maslate on August 03, 2023, 07:47:16 AM

It's a very sad experience. Unfortunately, when Bitcoin is hacked

Bitcoin was not hacked but bad Bitcoin exchanges, wallet softwares were hacked.

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No one can freeze it as it has no authority. It's on a decentralized blockchain, and only those who own the key can access the coins. If it's not your fault, then it's better to avoid using this kind of wallet as it might already be compromised. It's still better to spread your Bitcoin across different wallets to minimize the risk since there is no online wallet that is hack-proof.

You lose your bitcoins to hackers and when they move stolen bitcoins to new wallets with private keys they own, you and nobody can freeze those bitcoins. Nobody has private keys that only own by hackers if they only store it in non custodial wallets.

Opportunities only come if hackers move their bitcoins to centralized exchanges where they have to KYC to use accounts and don't own private keys. It is good chance for you but you will need to request support to seize hackers' coin.

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Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 07:13:08 PM

I just wondered if there was any way to recover or block the address of the hacker ? I can actually see where the stolen Bitcoin sits but cant get authorities or anyone of note to help me with it.

Sorry for the lost of your Bitcoin. Sadly, there's nothing you can do about it, the hacker is just waiting for the right moment to start moving the funds gradually to a Bitcoin mixer and no one would ever be able to trace the coin. Never use a close source wallet like atomic wallet in storing your funds. Get a hardware wallet like Trezor, Passport, Coldcard etc. but if you can't afford it you can settle for an open source wallet like electrum wallet, sparrow wallet, unstoppable wallet or blue wallet. And only download from the official website.

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Investigators say 1% wallets were hacked. Atomic Wallet says 0.1% wallets were hacked. Atomic wallet shouldn't be trusted. They aren't updating users about the hack. If they're deleting tweets there's a plan to remove it from their past. Their blog protects them from responsibility by saying However, anyone who has access to a user's seed phrase may import it to any other similar wallet app and get access to funds.

It doesn't make reason. How's it possible $35M was stolen on one day?

Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 08:30:27 PM

Thankyou for the replies.
Ive been taking many of those avenues and will continue to do so.
Hopefully technology will catch up with the hackers someday.

Atomic wallet actions since the hack has led to anger and suspicion as they have not updated victims, deleted old tweets, blocked victims and continue to leave their exploited software up for users to download and use. Its a warning as you have pointed out, dont trust Hot wallets, hardware wallets are the best places to store your Bitcoin and crypto.
Anyway thankyou for your replies and thoughts.

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Very sad to hear about your loses. And as everyone said you can't recover it because of its decentralization nature. But it's really a matter of worry that non custodial Wallets are even being hacked or compromised. So where we are safe with our funds?.

Obviously I will suggest to use only Hardware wallets. But is it possible that everyone will have a hardware wallet ? If they have small assets or want to reduce expenses then obviously use an online wallet. So what wallets should we choose? The answer is Open source non custodial Wallets which are Electrum, Blue, Mycelium wallet. They are the safest from every online wallets. Even you should hold your assets in some individual wallets so that if hacking happens it will not affect to your whole assets.

Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 08:30:27 PM

Hopefully technology will catch up with the hackers someday.

I don't think so. Even It's normally impossible to catch up a transection because Bitcoin is decentralized and anonymous. At that time hackers are much intelligent than a common user so they will mix their coin or something else. You should know that in 12 years technology still not able to catch up hackers. So it's a barrier and also a properties of Bitcoin. That's why safety is first while adopting Bitcoin.

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It's a very sad experience. Unfortunately, when Bitcoin is hacked, no one can freeze it as it has no authority. It's on a decentralized blockchain, and only those who own the key can access the coins. If it's not your fault, then it's better to avoid using this kind of wallet as it might already be compromised. It's still better to spread your Bitcoin across different wallets to minimize the risk since there is no online wallet that is hack-proof.

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Thanks bringing this to my notice because I was also looking for a wallet to use. But before you used that Atomic Wallet, you would have asked question and people would have told you to use a reliable wallet instead of using your choice of wallet and now you lost all the funds. I am really sorry for that.
And I don't think anyone can help here to recover the funds unless another hacker/authority ICT which you will spend another money to do that because cryptocurrency decentralized so once coins are moved to another wallets, it is gone unless the person send it back again. Third party can't do anything.

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Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 07:13:08 PM

Forgive me but my Bitcoin was stolen from the Atomic wallet on the 3rd of June as part of a massive draining of funds globally from that wallet. I just wondered if there was any way to recover or block the address of the hacker ? I can actually see where the stolen Bitcoin sits but cant get authorities or anyone of note to help me with it.
Atomic wallet appears to be actively wanting the hack to disappear and blocking victims from various social media platforms where it is, at the moment the only recourse is a legal one but that will take a long time.
I write this as a hope there might be an answer , this destroyed me and I dont know where else to turn.
Anyway thankyou
Sorry if this is wasting your time.

Don't apologize about asking this since you are not wasting people's time, bitcointalk is created for any topic that any member asked so feel free to post here.

But in your case I case there's nothing you can do with those stolen bitcoin as there are no people have power aside from those criminals to return your balance so the only thing you can do is accept that its gone forever and start to move on. Next time be careful to deal with your balances and always remember what other people says that not your keys not your coins this is important reminder to anyone.

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Why did so many ppl trust Atomic Wallet when it's closed source? Atomic wallet's noncustodial decentralised so users are responsible for their cryptocurrencies. 1% users were hacked so they're paying the price for trust. Blockchain tracker ZachXBT said the largest one-person loss was $7.95 million the five biggest individual losses accounted for $17 million. Full hack stolen was $35M from 1% Atomic Wallet users.

Atomic wallet aren't updating their blog. If it's an inside job they'll leave clues if they're professional hackers it won't be easy finding the criminals until they move funds between addresses.

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on August 02, 2023, 08:43:06 PM

Did they discover how their wallets were hacked?

It seems to be unclear, but in the thread on the subject they say this:

Quote from: Z-tight on July 24, 2023, 06:34:15 AM

Quote from: sheenshane on July 23, 2023, 07:27:00 PM

The hacked activities were made by their team who is behind on this major issue? (because I'm thinking this way)

We can only speculate, but from what i have read about the hack, many people are suspecting this to be what happened, it was probably an inside job, maybe someone in their team added something malicious to their code, but until Atomic Wallet tells us what happened, we can only speculate, that's why closed source wallets aren't good.

The point is to avoid closed source wallets like the plague.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 03, 2023, 12:48:35 AM

I do not want to sound unsympathetic, but we have always said... " Not your keys, not your coins "

Well, not your keys, not your crypto - I thought atomic wallet was and is a non-custodial wallet?, I've never used it , so i might be mistaken, ive always believed atomic wallet was a non-custodial wallet , and some user on this forum even usually recommended it to some other users before the hack happened.

Atomic wallet is still non-custodial wallet but the fact is they turned to be closed source so without access to the source code, users cannot independently audit the software to ensure its security and reliability. Which weans we have to rely completely on the wallet provider's regarding security as well as privacy of our wallet.

If someone is looking for an alternative to Atomic wallet then their better choice will be Unstoppable Wallet, which is open source, multi crypto wallet and available in both Playstore and IOS.

URL: https://unstoppable.money/
Github: https://github.com/horizontalsystems
Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/horizontal_systems/unstoppable-wallet-ios
APP store: https://apps.apple.com/app/bank-bitcoin-wallet/id1447619907?ls=1
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.horizontalsystems.bankwallet

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 03, 2023, 12:48:35 AM

I do not want to sound unsympathetic, but we have always said... " Not your keys, not your coins "

Well, not your keys, not your crypto - I thought atomic wallet was and is a non-custodial wallet?, I've never used it , so i might be mistaken, ive always believed atomic wallet was a non-custodial wallet , and some user on this forum even usually recommended it to some other users before the hack happened.

If the above be true, then you don't really need to blame the users whos funds were drained, because it could have been any other non-custodial wallet, even a hardware wallet as well, ive heard instances where people complain about their funds disappearing from their ledger hardware wallet, dont know if its true, but if you check reddit, such complains are scatters everywhere, and assuming those complains are true, can we still tell them "not your keys, not your crypto"?

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I do not want to sound unsympathetic, but we have always said... " Not your keys, not your coins "

DO NOT trust third parties with your Private keys, because they are juicy targets for hackers or insiders inside the company use their position to assist the hackers to steal the coins.

I hope they get it sorted for you.... and that you will get some money back in the future... Tongue

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Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 07:13:08 PM

Sorry if this is wasting your time.

First of all, you're not wasting our time. We are here in Bitcointalk to help each other. Anyone can tell their concerns here for free no matter how much is your concern, our fellow members here are always willing to assist or fix a problem at their best. However, just like what other said, there's no way to retrieve Bitcoin once it was transferred to a non-custodial wallet because only the
hacker are in control with it. For better security in the future, you should always keep your Bitcoin in a trusted wallet where you own the private key.

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This atomic wallet hack happened a while ago and the dev team has been horrible the way they are communicating. No idea why some people got their accounts drained while others didn’t.

You said it was on June 3rd it was drained, did you do any updates to the software right before it got drained? Trying to figure out how they got so many people to lose their crypto. Unfortunately i don’t think there is much you can do. They can’t reverse the transaction. And the dev teams won’t be covering the losses.

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on August 02, 2023, 08:43:06 PM

Did they discover how their wallets were hacked?

It seems to be unclear, but in the thread on the subject they say this:

Quote from: Z-tight on July 24, 2023, 06:34:15 AM

Quote from: sheenshane on July 23, 2023, 07:27:00 PM

The hacked activities were made by their team who is behind on this major issue? (because I'm thinking this way)

We can only speculate, but from what i have read about the hack, many people are suspecting this to be what happened, it was probably an inside job, maybe someone in their team added something malicious to their code, but until Atomic Wallet tells us what happened, we can only speculate, that's why closed source wallets aren't good.

The point is to avoid closed source wallets like the plague.

Quote from: freedoms4uandme on August 02, 2023, 08:30:27 PM

Its a warning as you have pointed out, dont trust Hot wallets, hardware wallets are the best places to store your Bitcoin and crypto.

Yes, but while you're at it, you'd better choose an open source one.

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It is impossible for you to get back your bitcoin if it was transfered to a noncustodial wallet, it means that your bitcoin is gone. If it was transfer to an exchange then you need to go and meet the police and explain to them with your evidence,they can contact the exchange and ask them to block the account where your bitcoin is. This can be done if your country legalized cryptocurrency,and you need to act fast but from your explanation,I guess it might be too late because the hacker might transfer the coins to another wallet by selling it,if he used an exchange to keep the coins. The possibility of your having back your coins is very slim and might not happen

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Atomic Wallet owners aren't poor. I've read the hackers stole $35M but they're rich enough to cover losses. If they pay it'll be expected they'll pay after every hack. They can't stop ppl writing about the hack but they'll ban users from talking about it on their social media.

Users life savings were stolen so they should've supported them. Did they discover how their wallets were hacked?

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