Topic: My campaign journey has ended due to this (Read 774 times)

Mate come to think of it, you're a sr member rank user, you've been active on the forum quite right, there's a warning message by the admin that prompt once you have a click on the campaign giving a warning alert about the campaign, does it not appear on your own screen? we have many threads created about the campaign yet you never come across any, you have nothing less than four years of experience on the forum and yet you want to make a claim that you don't know anything about 1xbit campaign? i doubt the genuity of this you statement in it entirety.

No hard feelings, but you are just making things more complicated than it should be.
I said everything I wanted to say in my previous post with message I sent you, and I didn't forget to add anything else.
I didn't ask you to write novels in this topic, nor did I ask you to write any reply to me at any time, you set those deadlines yourself and I don't care about them honestly.
It's interesting that you have a lot time writing this long posts, and simple removing or changing your feedback to this member would only take few seconds of your time... but I guess you juts don't want to listen anybody and you know everything already.
Have fun burning witches on your vigilante path.
Peace out.

I am wondering how you weren't aware of the 1xbit scam? There was a red tag as well on the manager profile, how did you miss that. If you were active on the forum you should aware of the 1xbit scam
 A lot of discussions even on meta. We can't prevent any companies to run their campaign on the anyway unless they do massive spam here. But before joining any campaign should do our own diligence to save our accounts from getting the tag.

Anyway just be active and contribute to the forum. After PM to the person who tagged you. If he feels you are good now, then he might reconsider the feedback.

One thing I do not understand here. Is OP concerned about his status as an art service provider or his participation in signature campaigns on this forum? In the case of the former, I do not see how a single unrelated negative tag could affect his business, whereas in the case of the latter, his lack of activity on the forum has almost the same effect as the negative tag he carries on his profile. Aside from campaigns for scams like 1xBit, I doubt that any manager would accept him in any signature campaign.

Also, regardless of what the OP stated later, it should be noted that the title of this thread is "My campaign journey has ended due to this", and also he started his post with: "Few months ago, I was a very active campaigner ...".

In my opinion, the OP needs to engage and contribute a little more on the forum before he can expect his trust rating to be revised.

Frustrating as it may seem, that negative feedback shouldn't become an obstacle to offer your art creation services (or whatever it is you wanted to offer) on Bitcointalk. You have not scammed anyone. You have not stolen money or crypto. You have not tried to infect someone with malware. You haven't failed in respecting a promise you made to someone when it comes to money or services. You never should have applied to that campaign though.

Having said all that, If I needed someone to create some artwork for me, I don't see why the fact that you wanted to participate in 1xBit's campaign should stop me from appointing you for the job. The two things are completely unrelated. Even if you didn't have that negative feedback, I wouldn't send you the coins without seeing the work first or without you sending it to an escrow who can confirm the quality of it.

If you are interested in providing a service here, I see no reason why you shouldn't.   

I have tagged so many accounts that are participating in promoting the 1xbit scam, but this is one of the accounts I never tagged, probably because of one of these reasons;
- They didn't appear on the 1xbit signature campaign spreadsheet
- I didn't see their profile wearing a 1xbit signature, or they removed it after a few hours after applying.
- They didn't get paid by 1xbit to advertise their scam

I think they deserve a second chance.

Speaking of the tag he received, I don't think that explanation written is correct and is even misleading as when I read what you wrote I got impression that @Twentyonepaylots was part of 1xbit signature campaign and got paid for it while that's never been the case. Might be nitpicking but I think that feedbacks should be precise, especially the negative ones.

@JollyGood, your response to dkbit98 is full of excuses and deflection, and doesn't really help your case.  We both know I've been critical of your reviews in the past, hell you booted me off of your trust list after I made some off-hand comment that was obviously sarcastic.  But despite my objections to your red-tagging of participants of the scam campaign, to this day I have not added you to my exclusion list for a reason: I mean it when I say that I believe your heart is in the right place.  So far I've been convinced that the good outweighs the bad (no pun intended.)


I'm sorry but I take objection to this attitude.  This is not the way DT should be conducting themselves.  It should not be the OP's obligation to "get positive feedback" to counteract an undeserved negative.  In fact, if the OP started obviously doing thing to gain positive feedback, he'd likely get tagged for farming trust.  The OP has not been a spammer, there's no indication he ever tried to scam anyone, and he certainly doesn't appear to be dangerous to deal with (which is the premise behind negative feedback.)  

As for his contributions (or alleged lack of,) they may not be to your standards, but he also doesn't appear to be shit-posting.  Regardless, lack of contribution is no justification for a red-tag.  You are abusing your power making these demands, just because the OP applied for a campaign which doesn't meet your approval.

Again, I think your tags for the participants the scam campaign are counterproductive.  They don't prevent the scammer from scamming, and only dilute the value of red tags.  They hurt the DT system more than they hurt the scammer.

Thank you for your comments.

That was always going to happen in the future, the tag would have been revised or removed because the OP at least had some sort of talent with his artworks. In the whole 10 month or so period all he had to do was regularly showcase his talents and contribute to the forum which would have shown he moved on from that whole episode, I would have congratulated him and gladly revised or removed the tag.

Of all the accounts I have tagged, the OP is the only one that I can think of right now that actually has a talent. He has so much potential to become a first class contributor in the forum with further potential for receiving positive trust via trading his artworks. I really hope he manages to find a 1-2 month consistency in the forum where he can showcase his talents and focus on posting regularly and positively.

After replying to the post below, I will unwatch this thread and will not be posting here again therefore thank you once again for your comments.

You forgot to mention in your full disclosure that I replied to your PM in around 3 hours from when you sent it thanking you for taking the time to write to me.

You also forgot to mention in your full disclosure that I stated I was in the middle of writing up a post for the thread related to the user you mentioned (the OP) but said I would get back to you via PM around the same time tomorrow or earlier.

Firstly, as for not getting back to you within the time period I estimated, I have a life outside of this forum and cannot always be prompt as much as I would like to. Instead of sending another kind PM asking why I did not get back to you around the specified time, you decided to write a not-so full disclosure post.

Secondly, I want to make it clear to those reading this, I did not read your kind PM and somehow dismissed it in order to start typing up a post to post for the sake of posting here. On the contrary, I was typing up a post when I read your PM and decided I was not going to dismiss the post I was typing in order to adhere to your kind request but would discuss your kind request later.

For clarity, I did not post in this thread as an alternative to (or instead of following or adhering to) your kind request therefore the statement you made is wholly inaccurate and you already knew it before you wrote it but you still posted it.

As for the long post of my justification (as you referred to it but I do not), has several comments from members saying the OP should be tagged and several instances from myself and others saying the OP should have contributed positively in the interim. I even replied to your post in this thread agreeing with part of it that the OP should concentrate on his posts and he should try to get positive feedback for his trades and services.

Full disclosure, I wrote private message to JollyGood and I kindly asked him to consider changing negative feedback he gave this member to neutral...
Instead of changing his feedback, that is something all DT members should do in this case, he wrote very long post with justification of his actions.
I think this is counter productive, harsh and it makes me not trust any of his feedbacks in future, so I am thinking of ignoring all of his feedbacks even if many of them are justified.
When you mix pure water with some dirt, all water becomes dirty.

Some would say that after this new normal, there is no more going back to old normal.

Most decent campaigns don't want to be associated with users with negative feedback. It looks bad on their brand.
The 1xbit scammers don't mind, because they know anyone who promotes their scam gets tagged.

This is a problem indeed: I want my feedback to mean something. Tagging someone because he applied for a scam makes negative feedback lose it's value. If too many accounts have negative feedback, it becomes the new normal instead of the warning it should be.

Sorry if this thread looked like I want the neg trust to be removed once you heard my story but again sir it was not. My intention into posting this one is to share my sentiments on how I got it and learned from it. I was clear, I guess, from here " Which I take responsibility of".

Now with the issue from joining any campaigns and provide an art service, I was wrong into thinking that I cannot provide an art service but @JollyGood is right, it puts me in disadvantage having the neg trust also in any campaigns.

To tell the whole story:

1. I was very inactive, I tried to get back into signature campaigns after a while.
2. I didn't make any post, not even a single post for profile checking.
3. Afaik I applied to several campaigns including the scam 1xbit.
4. Didn't bother to check since I don't have any make up posts.
5. Forgot to check, and checks after a week then there's the tag.
6. I tried saving it, I appealed to @JollyGood claiming he is mistaken into suspecting that I was involved in any way to 1xbit.
7. Inactive again for quite a while, joining art competitions coz I thought the neg trust would take me into something here.
8. I posted this thread coz everytime I open the services section, I still see the 1xbit.

I did it today after I reread the messages. I forgot about this matter since my whole attention is into reading the comments and with the neg trust issue.

It's true, I posted an application but didn't wore the signature. That might be the probable cause of the tag is due to my inactivity since I wasn't able to delete it ASAP after a warning.


And my honest intention for this is not to get to @JollyGood but I'm thankful he got to read my/our sentiments. It is just that I thought it's the ending for me, little did I know that it was just going to be a disadvantage for me.

This serves a lesson to me for upcoming days, weeks, and years here. Mistakes have been done, but still got a lot of time to make right things.

You have been around for like 5 years. You should have known the consequences of joining a scam campaign. People literally scream "1xbit  is a Scam" everywhere in the forum. How could you miss this? Still, just don't repeat your mistakes, be a nice guy and jolly might wanna remove your negative rating after some time. Don't get mad at him if he doesn't though.


The reason is, scamming is not against the forum rules.

I can't believe all the people who are calling this "a bit harsh."  If Twentyonepaylots' story is accurate (i.e. he merely applied for the campaign and never wore the signature) this is absolutely draconian.  I have been concerned about JollyGood's vindictive attitude before, and this is another example of why.

I understand JollyGoods' concern, and I'm convinced his heart is the right place; attempting to reduce spam and prevent scams.  However, it's my opinion that his methods are over the top, and it seems he's incapable of reversing his decisions once his mind has been made up.  It comes off as irrational and unreasonable, and only hurt the value of DT reviews.

When a similar situation occurred with the Yobit campaign, as a community we determined that tagging the participants was counterproductive.  Largely because we foresaw that situations like this would come up.  So far that concern has been realized with the 1xbit campaign; Meta and Reputation boards being filled with complaints about undeserved negative review.  As a community we came to that conclusion, but as a community we've allowed JollyGood to single handedly reverse that decision.

I warned him about the blender.io signature he was wearing 3 days ago, but he just ignored and didn't even bother removing it. If he really wants to redeem his reputation, he must start acting rather than lament about how he is not going to participant in any other signature campaign because of the red trust.

First of all, please accept my apology for not replying to your PMs. I checked and discovered you sent two messages last year but I did not reply to them. That would be very uncharacteristic of me as I usually reply to the overwhelming majority of PMs.

Moving on, nobody has stopped you from providing your art services in the forum. A simple red tag cannot stop a talented and determined member from putting their work out to showcase it nor cannot it detract potential buyers from striking deals with you.

Exactly how is one red tag going to disrupt you from providing art services?

Exactly how is one negative tag making it impossible to join signature campaigns?

Correct me if I am wrong but did the negative tags attached under the profile of 1xbit stop you from applying to join their campaign? How is it possible you see and ignore red tags when it suits your own agenda, point-of-view and perspective?

I mean, you had zero red tags when you applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign and still were not selected by them yet there are those with red tags that are participating in 1xbit and other signature campaigns.

Rather than end your campaign journey an alternative would be to consider posting positively and in a helpful manner which would allow you build your reputation while you apply to join artwork competitions while trying to sell your artwork. Another option would be to create another account but I would advise against it yet the decision is yours to make.

What you wrote is correct.

All he had to do was to post as a good contributor with or without trying to sell his art and the tag would have been revised to neutral or removed but instead he followed a different path.

It is probably an issue for him now because he would like to participate in signature campaigns and he might find himself at somewhat of a disadvantage when making applications.

There is no reason at all why he could not have positively contributed to the forum with or without trying to sell/promote his artwork. He could have done so using the tagged account or by creating another but either way if he believed in his talent why would one negative tag have stopped him from trying to participate as a good standing member of this forum?

He is on occasion directly and indirectly appealing to the community to pressure me in to removing the feedback because he claims he unable to showcase his artwork talents appropriately to the forum as a result of the negative tag.

There is no reason he cannot contribute to the forum by posting in a helpful manner as well as create a thread to showcase his artwork talents and to try to sell them to potential buyers.

You make a valid point here which raises questions about the real purpose and intentions behind him creating this thread.

There seems to be lacking a genuine iota of remorse from what he said and his stance on not wanting to remove the current signature and avatar he is displaying (even after several members have pointed it out to him about their reputation in this thread) speaks volumes about his mindset and opens questions about his real motives.

Yes I tagged virtually all accounts I was aware of that applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign.

He applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign and from what I can recall a couple of weeks later after not being selected by them he deleted his application.

The advice you gave him is probably the best that can be given. If he really believes he has a talent which will/can benefit the forum members he should have never have let one negative tag stop him.

All he had to do was to showcase his artwork talents to the community and posted in the threads that make him happy and allow him to make deals by selling his artwork. Sooner or later I would have removed or revised the tag but he has opted to follow a different route altogether which is simply not productive nor conducive to him or his cause.

Well, he claims he missed the 18 or so red tags that the 1xbit forum representative had the time but somehow all he saw was the opportunity to earn some signature campaign money.

I have no idea how many people have been put off by applying to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign as a result of receiving negative trust but even if a just a few have decided to not apply it means something positive have come from this because as members of this fantastic forum we have responsibilities to each other and the wider public to try to at the very least protect them from frauds and scams.

It is strange that he would login after not logging in that often, apply to join a known and then well.. not be so active again.

After missing all the warning signs he decided to apply to join and after withdrawing his application he still never contributed much towards showcasing those talents he mentions in the OP.

He can still get to work by concentrating on showcasing his talents and by trying to be a good contributor here but he never did so during the past 10 months or so since his account was tagged.

I think the ulterior motive here is he wants to join a signature campaign and is finding it hard because of the red tag. If he had used the previous 10 or so months since his account was tagged to post about his artwork and make efforts to be hired by potential customers then he tag probably would have been revised or removed by now.

The blame-game about him not being able to progress in the forum and all those people that he can teach and be helpful to regarding art/artwork but him being unable to because of one red tag, is an absolutely ridiculous thing to read and even after to believe.

Thank you. I could not have put it better myself.

Are we all seriously supposed to accept he did not know what he was doing when he decided to apply to promote one of the most tagged and talked about scams in the forum probably since Yobit?

Going by your post, it seems his artwork seems to be the second most important thing on his agenda with the first and foremost being attempts at joining a signature campaign.

He claims he never knew 1xbit were scammers.

He claims he returned to the forum out of the blue after a period of being inactive, then applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign and after that he went off to be inactive again for a while.

What could be the reason he would continue to wear the avatar and signature? The moment he became aware of the allegations against it he should have distanced himself from it.

The manner is which joining a signature campaign seems to be the priority for him, it seems desperate. All the while he claims that he has so much talent to offer forum members where he could help others with their artwork but is being held back by one red tag.

I do not accept his case that one red tag is holding him back from being a high level talented contributor to this forum.

I agree, in all probability you are correct this is not his only account.

I am unsure as to what the exact agenda the OP has with this thread but it seems to weigh towards his wanting to appeal to members in trying to have the negative tag removed so he could apply to join signature campaigns without fear of being rejected.

His claims of being talented and his claims of wanting to help others with art and also him wanting to showcase his work while trying to sell them seem to be lower on his agenda.

If he applied due-diligence beforehand then his present signature and avatar would not even be mentioned. That is another matter that falls firmly at his door because he should be more careful and more vigilant.

Which brings be back to the main point I was making. The premise behind the OP creating this thread seems to be purely economical based around him wanting to join a signature campaign. In the previous 10 months or so since his account got tagged did he showcase his artwork talents? Did he try to sell his artwork and designs to potential customers? Where have all his efforts been during this period?

First of all he was not exactly active that often here anyway and when he was several of his posts show the economical reason for him wanting to be here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twentyonepaylots-1075222

If he manages to become a trustworthy member of the community the tag issue would have been resolved.

Even if he did not make any sales of his artwork he could have been a productive member of the community and that also would have made an impact. He did not use the interim period of getting tagged until now to post regularly and positively on a regular basis.

The OP claims he did not know he applied to promote a scam even during the long period of between posting to apply and subsequently removing his application.

I think there are a couple of others that claimed they did not know they were wanting to promote a scam when they applied to join the 1xbit scammers signature campaign and they might have not have been added but most of them were added to the list: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/request-for-attention-of-all-1xbit-signature-campaign-participants-5347222

And you are right, just because he was not selected to join their signature campaign he intended to do it therefore why should it be looked at as anything less than joining? I do not accept his case when he claims he made a mistake because he was unaware 1xbit were scammers.

I agree with you.

There is no reason he cannot promote himself and his artwork in this forum with our without receiving positive feedback. If he just posted and contributed in a positive manner it would highlight his account in a different manner and the issues with tags would resolve themselves and failing that you are right he could have simply registered another account to showcase his talents, apply for artwork competitions while trying to sell his works and making a name and building a positive respectful reputation for himself. He chose to not do that.

I understand your point and thank you for making it.

Just by posting about the 1xbit scammers bring them and their brand to the eyes of anyone reading the post and no doubt a minority or gullible people will end up finding their way to the website and will be at risk of becoming victims.

And yes you are right, all the OP had to do was to search online or within this forum to see whether the 1xbit scammers should be promoted or not but he did not apply even the slightest due-diligence even when there are a large number of red tags in the profile under the avatar of the 1xbit forum representatives.

It speaks volumes when a forum member decides to ignore red tags when applying to join a known scam because the $ signs are more prominent but the moment their brief association with the scammer has ended they find their own red tags to be visible as the $ signs fade away from them.



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Thank you for reading this very long post.

I think I have replied directly to 19 of the 20 posts made in page one of this thread.

I will try to reply to the posts in page two later this evening or tomorrow.

I would just like to say that it is completely inadmissible for someone who registered on the forum in 2017 to make such beginner mistakes. There is no written rule, but before each action, you should check what it is about, and not blindly believe that something is good just because it is publicly presented on the forum which does not moderate scams anyway.

However, if someone in ignorance just applied for a signature campaign, without actually participating in it - negative feedback seems excessive to me. If this is indeed the case, it would be fair to consider changing feedback from negative to neutral.

Haven't read it yet, but thanks for the notice. Will do it ASAP. Thanks man!

It is a little bit harsh to be honest, to get negative feedback without actually wearing signature but I guess for him your willingness to participate was enough.


For even a slightest chance for that to happen you will have to change the way you approach signature campaigns. For example, you are wearing a signature of BlenderWallet even though there are some serious issues with the, as explained in BlenderWallet phishing attempt? thread, and their account has several negative feedbacks. So once again you failed to do a basic due diligence, like it happened with 1xbit application.

Now you're still breaking forum rules of posts in a row


Moreover you're still promoting high likely scam wallet Blender wallet trust summary this show how careless you're and don't care anything with the forum also what you're promoting.

The feedback leaved by @JollyGood is appropriate.

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Again sir, I didn't wore the signature of 1xbit. Maybe JollyGood tagged/suspected me for not deleting my application. The tagged says " participating in the 1xbit campaign" Which on my part, technically I did not.

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Yes, I didn't participate, just a mere application that I wasn't able to deleted due to my inactiveness. I've try to reach out but JollyGood already made up his mind. Would be thankful if he sees it and reconsider.


I did not open this thread to complain, I was just sharing coz I remember it how I got my neg trust coz I always see this 1xbit campaign all the time.


Yeah just a mere application. I guess from the point that I wasn't able to delete it makes his suspicion obvious on his POV.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

Since you claim that its not about the money at all, why even opening thread complaining about not being able to join any campaign?


Just to check if I understood you correctly, you never wore 1xbit signature, you just applied and for that you got negative feedback?

Usually, i don't feel pity for those who are in the 1xbit scam campaign but your case attracts my attention as you were never selected in the 1xbit campaign (as per my understanding), so maybe the negative could be changed to neutral maybe?

Did you try to reach out to jollygood on this and what was his response on this? Also let's wait and see if JollyGood replies on this thread to see his point of view.

In my previous comment, I said that I didn't think the red tag was fair, but seeing that you were given enough time and that you call being lazy to continue to carry the signature of a scam site when it would take seconds to remove it, I think you deserve the tag.

Long before I applied to 1xbit I wasn't really that active but trying to be if ever accepted, wasn't for the money at all, I just wanna make a value on my participation besides, I'm an active reader here which I've learned a lot of things. It's just my carelessness had to be this more dramatic haha.

It wasn't my fault for participating in art contest and if it has a prize. I even remember starting my way up here, a sr. member, takes so much effort and engaging to the forum. Participating in campaign is advertising, using my account and I doubt anyone would do it if it's free.

Yeah maybe this is right, it does prove something. But sometimes being a lazy one will also make you to not remove it til the next one.

Pretty bad for me I didn't noticed how rug the 1xbit is. In all honesty it just got to my point of awareness when I see the neg trust but I did not wear their signature just a mere careless application.

I don't see this to just magically be gone, and I'm almost over it since it is nearly a year, I appealed to @JollyGood and didn't given another chance.

Yeah he reconsider others after complying to him, but in my case I was inactive for over a week, as I have said I didn't bother myself to check if it was accepted or not.

Didn't post this to ask anything, you can see it from my post I didn't please anyone. It is just that I remember how I got tagged after applying to that scam campaign. Sorry but this sounded like I'm asking for everyone's attention and help to get it removed.

Again I didn't post this to hate nor to ask for your sympathy. I just shared what happened to me and how it changed me. My inactivity to the forum had a purpose, I'm grateful for what I've learned and earned here. It will not stop right here.

 Thank you all for sharing your opinions and sentiments!

Unfortunately sympathy can not earn you positive trust even with thread. The process will ask for the reason behind it, so it does not come cheap. Positive trust tag can appease your negative trust position but u might need be more than 2 to look it.

I think i have seen JollyGood change feedback before, but you have also done nothing much to show you deserve a second chance except lamenting how you are going to miss future signature camapigns.


How is it free advertising if the word "1xbit" shows up with the word "scam" in most sentences. By the time someone looks up the site in the forum and even fails to read through what the threads have to say about the scam, and they end up getting scammed, then they are to blame.

At this point, I’m sure if the keywords 1xbit is searched on bitcointalk forum, the company has been mentioned more than a million times good and bad, mostly bad reviews associated with the company and its signature campaign. But talking about it everyday is free advertising imo. They probably have more people clicking their websites through bitcointalk because they are everywhere. OP wants his feedback removed, I suggest he contact the person who gave the feedback and give convincing reasons why it should be removed.

I don't know how long you were a part of 1xbit campaign but it was big risk joining and everyone was well aware they could receive negative feedback.
There is still a chance he could remove that feedback, but instead you should concentrate to improve your posts and get some positive feedback for your services and trades.
If you want to provide some design and other art related services you can always create brand new account, and you don't have to publicly say that is your alt account.

You are wrong if you think that removing or banning 1xbit will somehow magically remove your negative feedback and make everything clean again.
Bitcointalk forum is giving enough free speech to everyone, including scammers and shady gambling websites like 1xbit, and I think this is not bad.

If this is true than I think JollyGood should consider removing negative feedback he gave him, or at least change it to Neutral.

If I am not wrong this action taken by JollyGood after multiple warnings to the campaign participants but they never cared so he made a list of people who are wearing the 1xbit signatures and getting financial benefits from the scammers. If you didn't get that financial benefits but still you got negged may look harsh but its your responsibility to choose what you're promoting because literally you're helping the scammers and being one if the reason for people to lose their money.

Interestingly, I didn't find your name in the list which actually have 124 names.

The way he wrote it was like he immediately got negative feedback after he applied for 1xbit signature campaign, but this is a completely different thing. He was given more than 2 weeks time to remove that sig and if that wasn't enough, then even 2 months probably wouldn't be enough for him.

I agree with what has been said:

The -1 is not that big a deal if you want to provide a service just use a reliable escrow and if you do enough good deals over time it really will not matter.

As for joining signature campaigns, that really is up to the individual manager.

But still wearing the sig for a service that has gone away and itself is tagged is not a good thing.

-Dave

I get the idea but I think they are wrong. If you are not in a signature campaign I think it is better to post without carrying any signature, because this way you show that it is not only economic interest that brings you to this forum.

I think that some do keep the old signature for proving some sort of "status", i.e. that they were accepted to campaigns.
Or some may keep signature in order to "fool" people that they are any good, by showing that they're somewhat trusted by the campaign manager (I don't know how to explain it well), without realizing that one can do quality posts even if he's not member of any campaign.

Maybe I didn't explain well, but the point is that it can also be seen not as carelessness, instead as somehow trying to pretend he's more than he is.

It seems that the OP is not a careful person at all. Out of curiosity, I checked if there is a signature campaign in the thread:

Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 30-April-22]

And there is no signature campaign of that service (obviously). Surely he joined in the past and he has not removed the signature.

Reminds me of everyone who continued to carry Lightlord's  777coin and Bitvest.io signatures long after they stopped running in the forum. I still saw one the other day.

I'm not sure if he wore a 1xbit signature during that time, but I think JG gave him plenty of time to change his mind before tagging his account. He applied for the 1xbit campaign on June 15 and received negative trust on July 1. Then, after realizing he wasn't going to be accepted into their campaign, he deleted his application and started complaining.

Given how inactive he has been for the past year, I doubt this is his only account on the forum.

You should have seen all the warnings about 1xbit before you decided to apply for their signature campaign.

How did you miss seeing
1. Red trust and flags on all 1xbit's profiles amd campaign manager's profile.
2. Warnings in the campaign thread by so many members that anyone would risk getting tagged if they applied for the campaign.
3. Multiple scam accusations and reputation posts complaining about 1xbit at that time.


The fact that you are so careless is evident even today.

Blender wallet, a service that you are advertising on your signature has been off for several weeks now.

Before even going off, they claim the "noncustodial" wallet was hacked and funds for users were withdrawn.

How do you not know this and continue advertising such a service on your signature after all that long?

Judging by his registration, he could only apply for participation but did not participate in this company.
The post with the registration has been deleted, and also I did not find it in the spreadsheet. Therefore, we can conclude that he did not participate and receive payments.
Subsequently, there were also applications for other subscription companies, in which the OP, apparently, was not accepted.

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1qme0j0hxrxyghzgxfrdd7sat5eehuyatugak2th
https://ninjastic.space/post/57235692



OP, Sometimes choosing the company you're going to advertise with carefully will help you maintain your reputation....

I think that's what happened, and JollyGood has been known to be quite harsh with the negative feedback--that's why I took him off my trust list.  OP's trust actually doesn't show up red on my end because of that, but if he's still on DT2 or even DT1 then yeah, it's going to be a problem for OP getting into anything other than a bounty that doesn't care about feedback.

Personally, I think JollyGood ought to rethink some of his feedbacks but I suspect he's not going to.  There have been threads just like this one before, and he's not inclined to reverse any of the ones he's given.  Tagging applicants to a campaign is stepping over the line IMO, but we've all got differing opinions on that. 

While you're right with "IDK why it is still here on the forum", you're wrong with blaming them for what has happened to you. Look closer and you'll see that it was your own fault to not read all the red warnings around that campaign.
Yes, I know, you can tell that I expect too much from a Sr. Member. But you're here since 2017, or at least the account is. You had to learn the proper ways at some point...

Did you wear 1xbit signature for some time before you got tagged, or you were tagged immediately after applying for signature campaign? I am asking because I remember DT members contacting people after they got tagged and usually deleting the feedback if signature was removed immediately. Also, you are not a new member so how come you ignored negative trust on their bounty manager as I am sure he had plenty of those?

Let's be honest here, if people were not getting tagged for promoting scammers like 1xbit I am sure that many wouldn't have any issues joining their campaign but are not doing so only because of the fear of negative tag.

Thats hurting actually. Well just continue or provide service to others. Probably with huge transactions youve done with that services, others might ignore that negative feedback on you for just joining a scam signature campaign. If you succeded on that, then maybe some will drop you a good positive rating and that negative one will be ignored as many are trusted you for your services instead seeing you as a scammer for that mistake of yours.

You mean you applied but never got to join the campaign?

It seems that JollyGood tagged not only the people who participated, but also those who simply applied.

I find this a bit tough. Someone could have applied without realising it was a scam and then withdraw or delete the application without ever actually participating. I don't think they should get a red tag for this.

There would be a grey case for me, which would be those who applied and were not accepted. In this case I think the tag would be more justified.

Your account didn't have any active flag and the feedback because of 1xbit, if you use escrow of your services, I don't see the feedback would hurt your reputations. As long as your art portfolio is originally created from you and using escrow, no one will think you're a scammer. Why not try to create your services thread?

I think his purpose want to join the signature campaign again since he said he was an active campaigner. If you read his post history [1] he never made any post about contributing to the forum, he only create post about art contest which is money oriented. This mean if he only want to post because of money, he wouldn't post if he didn't earn money. Since he didn't contributed anything after he got negative trust by @JollyGood  , the negative feedback shouldn't be deleted.

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[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twentyonepaylots-1075222

And this is an issue for you now because....?

You had to have known your negative feedback would preclude you from getting accepted into most of the reputable signature campaigns, no?  It's not as if JG just left you that feedback, either--it's been nearly a year.

What is it about that one feedback that's preventing you from doing whatever it is you described above?  I don't know what "art service" you want to provide, but a single neg due to you being linked with 1xbit probably shouldn't interfere. 

I'd no idea 1xbit was still active here, since I have signatures ignored.  But the forum doesn't ban scammers, so that's why they're allowed to remain on bitcointalk.

Not knowing that 1xbit is a scam gambling site should not be an excuse. Or let me put it like this, you have already been tagged and nobody knows or can prove if what you are saying is true or not, but did you wear the signature and avatar of 1xbit? Did you remove the 1xbit signature and avatar immediately when you were tagged or you were paid for one week or some weeks before you removed both? I think JollyGood would have messaged you back if you have not gone beyond only joining the scam campaign gambling site.

If what you said is true but which I do not yet believe, all I can say is that you have already been tagged, JollyGood will see this thread but you can still message him again and request for the red trust removal. Improve your post, I believe improving the way you are posting will change his mind ones he noticed that you have changed the way you are posting in a way you can join good campaigns that are only picking good posters unlike 1xbit that did not see good posters to pick because good posters did not apply, shit posters applied for 1xbit, posters that are not having merits or having just 1 or less than 5 merits in the last 120 days. That deserves red trust as 1xbit is not only just scam campaign but also taking shit posters that want to make the quality posting on this forum to reduce. Thanks to suchmoon, JollyGood and many other people that were reporting them.

What I noticed about 1xbit is that the betting site is a scam, people that joined it first were tagged, shit posters joined it which I believe are alts which are no more useful because no one would want to risk his main account to join such campaign, turning this forum into a spam haven with spam posts.

Post good and continue your determination which is the red trust removal, it would be removed if you start and continue to be active with quality posts which is what that will make you deserve it removed.

Few months ago, I was a very active campaigner ( my previous posts/activities will tell ) but then this shitty campaign by 1xbit caused my -1 neg trust from JollyGood after I tried applying  to their campaign which I don't have an idea that it was a scam campaign coz I see a lot of people are applying on which I take responsibility of. I tried to appeal to him and he didn't replied which I totally understand. Now it's almost impossible to join any campaign anymore. What frustrates me more is that I really want to provide an art services so I could help few people here in regards with art, and again with neg trust it's almost impossible at this moment.

Now every time I see the thread of 1xbit reminds me of this, IDK why it is still here on the forum.