My electricty bill is through the roof. Got 15 gpus. CA

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Quote from: btc-room101 on June 07, 2021, 10:49:25 PM

I run my rtx-3070's at 90watts, I get 50MH/sec

The card can handle 250watts, and I would get 55mh/sec, no thanks, I would rather run my card at 60C ( my ambient is 32c), and spend $10/month for electricity for the card, hell right now u only get what $2/day? So $60/mon I paying for $10 electricity, but if your running this card at 180watts, then your near a loss. Last month one RTX-3070 @ 90watts earned me $5/day, now $2, but as we all know ETH is going POS, so its game-over, time to move on

It seems that smth wrong with your arithmetic, or your GPUs. 3070 gives about 60-62 at 130Wt. 3080 uses 250Wt and it will give you about 90-100Mh, depends on model and configure.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 06, 2021, 10:53:46 PM

Quote from: bitcoinsc on June 06, 2021, 09:43:09 PM

im in it for the long term. i just want to see some profits. the high electricity bill is new to me thats all. at right now mining eth instead of buying in is consider ideal for me. dont invest what you cant afford to lose. well im mining eth! im not really losing much lol. well its just little small amounts but yeh. im losing money on electricity n rent actually... oh well..

Dude if you are in Cali and your power bill is 30 ,40 ,50 cents a kwatt stop mining and sell the gear.

End of story.

a six gpu rig of 3070 will burn over or about 1 kwatt and hour

that is 720 K-watts a month at

50 cents it is 360
40 cents it is 288
30 cents it is 216

it earns 6 cents and mh or 360 mh x 6 = 21.60 a day or 648

so

648-360 = 288 profit
648-288 = 360 profit
648-216 = 432 profit

if earnings drop from 6 cents an mh to 3 cents
you earn 324 a month before power.

324-360 = -36
324-288 = 36
324-216 = 108

Dropping to 3 cents an mh may happen

When the rally began last summer earnings were under 2 cents an mh

I run my rtx-3070's at 90watts, I get 50MH/sec

The card can handle 250watts, and I would get 55mh/sec, no thanks, I would rather run my card at 60C ( my ambient is 32c), and spend $10/month for electricity for the card, hell right now u only get what $2/day? So $60/mon I paying for $10 electricity, but if your running this card at 180watts, then your near a loss. Last month one RTX-3070 @ 90watts earned me $5/day, now $2, but as we all know ETH is going POS, so its game-over, time to move on

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Quote from: Looper_U on June 03, 2021, 02:36:57 AM

If your electricity bill is growing too high all you have to do is reduce your energy consumption, fell two or three GPU and keep mining with the rest or if you have some money then build a solar energy instead, this is what I use

Major problem is 'over-clocking', I run my gpus at about 60watts, so my power consumption is minimal, I want the temp of gpus less than 70C so they don't die.

By default the cards are running 150 watts, but that additional power is 10% boost, I would seriously step back and quit wasting your money

Most of the stuff about GPU mining is BS, noobs always focus on 'over-clocking', which kills their cards these days you can't buy new cards, we take care of our cards,

Dropping the power as low as you can right there would save you 75% of your current cost, 50% would be easy.

Learn, just do the 'nvidia-smi -pl N -i M' and where M is the gpu card, and N is the power in watts, and keep dropping until the MH rate goes to zero, then start rising again to find the sweet spot. You will fine that that you can mine at -60% of default power, and still get 90% of the MH rate

Lets see your 18 cards at 150 watts = 2700 watts, where I live that would be $1500/month, I pay $120/mon because I reduce power. I try to run the total under 800Watts

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Right now - mining gives profit even with such power bill. But these miners will be first, who will stop mining. The next step is to search for a cheap electricity, or to stop mining. Everyone choose his way by himself.

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Quote from: bitcoinsc on June 06, 2021, 09:43:09 PM

im in it for the long term. i just want to see some profits. the high electricity bill is new to me thats all. at right now mining eth instead of buying in is consider ideal for me. dont invest what you cant afford to lose. well im mining eth! im not really losing much lol. well its just little small amounts but yeh. im losing money on electricity n rent actually... oh well..

Dude if you are in Cali and your power bill is 30 ,40 ,50 cents a kwatt stop mining and sell the gear.

End of story.

a six gpu rig of 3070 will burn over or about 1 kwatt and hour

that is 720 K-watts a month at

50 cents it is 360
40 cents it is 288
30 cents it is 216

it earns 6 cents and mh or 360 mh x 6 = 21.60 a day or 648

so

648-360 = 288 profit
648-288 = 360 profit
648-216 = 432 profit

if earnings drop from 6 cents an mh to 3 cents
you earn 324 a month before power.

324-360 = -36
324-288 = 36
324-216 = 108

Dropping to 3 cents an mh may happen

When the rally began last summer earnings were under 2 cents an mh

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im in it for the long term. i just want to see some profits. the high electricity bill is new to me thats all. at right now mining eth instead of buying in is consider ideal for me. dont invest what you cant afford to lose. well im mining eth! im not really losing much lol. well its just little small amounts but yeh. im losing money on electricity n rent actually... oh well..

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Quote from: Didz on June 02, 2021, 12:33:09 PM

Quote from: crazydane on June 01, 2021, 04:25:50 PM

Or you could get something like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255001658849?hash=item3b5f4885e1:g:9HQAAOSwM4JgtpB4

It has a built in web server that will allow you to monitor total power consumption or at the individual plug level. You can also turn power on and off at each outlet. If you have more than a few rigs and they are all in the same room/shelf, this is the way to go.

They also make larger ones:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/183568276125?epid=1526052385&hash=item2abd859a9d:g:vTsAAOSwlLlcCIoa

I have several of both types and they are great.

Why are they so cheap?

used but they work well in general

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Quote from: crazydane on June 02, 2021, 04:26:15 PM

Quote from: FP91G on June 02, 2021, 10:56:01 AM

This is a cheaper option, but I don't like it for a number of reasons:
Dedicated plug and socket required
Thicker wires required for wiring
Long and good quality cables C13 - C14 required

I installed a dedicated sub-panel and ran 30A 240V breakers from it to each of those PDUs using 10# wire in conduit.

I used 10# or 12# C13 - C14 cables depending on the power draw from each rig.

I like doing it right the first time.

You are right, if there is more than one important point.
Let's say your switch suddenly breaks down and you don't have a spare. How long will it take to buy new equipment?
If my smart wi-fi socket breaks, then I will turn on the mafning farm without it, and I myself will go to the store and buy a new one.
My mining farms will not be idle.
Therefore, I choose simpler ways. If you have a spare switch, then you too will quickly solve the problem, but you need to buy several switches.

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If your electricity bill is growing too high all you have to do is reduce your energy consumption, fell two or three GPU and keep mining with the rest or if you have some money then build a solar energy instead, this is what I use

mak013

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Quote from: crazydane on June 02, 2021, 04:26:15 PM

Quote from: FP91G on June 02, 2021, 10:56:01 AM

This is a cheaper option, but I don't like it for a number of reasons:
Dedicated plug and socket required
Thicker wires required for wiring
Long and good quality cables C13 - C14 required

I installed a dedicated sub-panel and ran 30A 240V breakers from it to each of those PDUs using 10# wire in conduit.

I used 10# or 12# C13 - C14 cables depending on the power draw from each rig.

I like doing it right the first time.

This is right decision if you have such opportunity. For example - i have several locations where i cann`t change anything. In such locations i need such plugs to control my rigs.

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Quote from: FP91G on June 02, 2021, 10:56:01 AM

This is a cheaper option, but I don't like it for a number of reasons:
Dedicated plug and socket required
Thicker wires required for wiring
Long and good quality cables C13 - C14 required

I installed a dedicated sub-panel and ran 30A 240V breakers from it to each of those PDUs using 10# wire in conduit.

I used 10# or 12# C13 - C14 cables depending on the power draw from each rig.

I like doing it right the first time.

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Quote from: Didz on June 02, 2021, 12:33:09 PM

Why are they so cheap?

New they run $300 - $500 I'm sure, maybe even more, as the quality is top notch. Probably some business/datacenter relocating or something and they just dumped all the current/old stuff to some re-seller.

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Quote from: FP91G on June 02, 2021, 10:56:01 AM

This is a cheaper option, but I don't like it for a number of reasons:
Dedicated plug and socket required
Thicker wires required for wiring
Long and good quality cables C13 - C14 required
It's easier for me to use standard Euro sockets and smart Wi-Fi sockets, because they can be bought at any store.

Thank you FP91G for your answer.

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Quote from: crazydane on June 01, 2021, 04:25:50 PM

Or you could get something like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255001658849?hash=item3b5f4885e1:g:9HQAAOSwM4JgtpB4

It has a built in web server that will allow you to monitor total power consumption or at the individual plug level. You can also turn power on and off at each outlet. If you have more than a few rigs and they are all in the same room/shelf, this is the way to go.

They also make larger ones:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/183568276125?epid=1526052385&hash=item2abd859a9d:g:vTsAAOSwlLlcCIoa

I have several of both types and they are great.

Why are they so cheap?

FP91G

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This is a cheaper option, but I don't like it for a number of reasons:
Dedicated plug and socket required
Thicker wires required for wiring
Long and good quality cables C13 - C14 required
It's easier for me to use standard Euro sockets and smart Wi-Fi sockets, because they can be bought at any store.

crazydane

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Or you could get something like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255001658849?hash=item3b5f4885e1:g:9HQAAOSwM4JgtpB4

It has a built in web server that will allow you to monitor total power consumption or at the individual plug level. You can also turn power on and off at each outlet. If you have more than a few rigs and they are all in the same room/shelf, this is the way to go.

They also make larger ones:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/183568276125?epid=1526052385&hash=item2abd859a9d:g:vTsAAOSwlLlcCIoa

I have several of both types and they are great.

FP91G

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Quote from: Didz on May 30, 2021, 05:42:10 PM

Quote from: FP91G on May 29, 2021, 04:41:07 PM

Quote from: Didz on May 29, 2021, 03:11:22 PM

Funny when you wrote "useless things". On one wall socket with 2 entries, I have 4 rigs so 4 power cords to plug, how do I do without at least a power strip? So FP91G you don't look how many watts you draw from your wall sockets? Not surprising that some people put fire doing mining rig. Understanding the electricity and monitoring it is super important for safety and business management.

Before starting mining, I installed new wires, bought and installed the required number of sockets.
Controlling consumption with a wattmert when setting up a farm.
If one of the farms consumes more electricity, then I will see increased consumption when I take data for transmission to an energy-intensive company at the end of the month.
I can install a good digital voltmeter-ammeter ($ 10) on each wire and watch the readings through an online camera.

But every farm I have is plugged into an online outlet. I manage all farms from my phone. I can control power consumption and remotely turn on and off the mining farm. An online smart plug costs $ 20.
https://www.tp-link.com/de/home-networking/smart-plug/hs110/

The link you provided in is Deutsch.
The smart plug, I think you have to be cautious if you put too much Voltage it can melt.

Maximum Load 16A
Maximum Load Power 3.68KW
https://www.tp-link.com/en/home-networking/smart-plug/hs110/#specifications
Each of my mining farm consumes less than 1 KW.
Colleagues take even cheaper Chinese counterparts.

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Quote from: Didz on May 30, 2021, 05:42:10 PM

Quote from: FP91G on May 29, 2021, 04:41:07 PM

Quote from: Didz on May 29, 2021, 03:11:22 PM

Funny when you wrote "useless things". On one wall socket with 2 entries, I have 4 rigs so 4 power cords to plug, how do I do without at least a power strip? So FP91G you don't look how many watts you draw from your wall sockets? Not surprising that some people put fire doing mining rig. Understanding the electricity and monitoring it is super important for safety and business management.

Before starting mining, I installed new wires, bought and installed the required number of sockets.
Controlling consumption with a wattmert when setting up a farm.
If one of the farms consumes more electricity, then I will see increased consumption when I take data for transmission to an energy-intensive company at the end of the month.
I can install a good digital voltmeter-ammeter ($ 10) on each wire and watch the readings through an online camera.

But every farm I have is plugged into an online outlet. I manage all farms from my phone. I can control power consumption and remotely turn on and off the mining farm. An online smart plug costs $ 20.
https://www.tp-link.com/de/home-networking/smart-plug/hs110/

The link you provided in is Deutsch.
The smart plug, I think you have to be cautious if you put too much Voltage it can melt.

It is easy to translate. Just change "de" to "en".
https://www.tp-link.com/en/home-networking/smart-plug/hs110/

Mining is a job or business. You have to prepare your conditions before start. And control it all the time. If you have any problems during mining - it costs you your money.

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Quote from: FP91G on May 29, 2021, 04:41:07 PM

Quote from: Didz on May 29, 2021, 03:11:22 PM

Funny when you wrote "useless things". On one wall socket with 2 entries, I have 4 rigs so 4 power cords to plug, how do I do without at least a power strip? So FP91G you don't look how many watts you draw from your wall sockets? Not surprising that some people put fire doing mining rig. Understanding the electricity and monitoring it is super important for safety and business management.

Before starting mining, I installed new wires, bought and installed the required number of sockets.
Controlling consumption with a wattmert when setting up a farm.
If one of the farms consumes more electricity, then I will see increased consumption when I take data for transmission to an energy-intensive company at the end of the month.
I can install a good digital voltmeter-ammeter ($ 10) on each wire and watch the readings through an online camera.

But every farm I have is plugged into an online outlet. I manage all farms from my phone. I can control power consumption and remotely turn on and off the mining farm. An online smart plug costs $ 20.
https://www.tp-link.com/de/home-networking/smart-plug/hs110/

The link you provided in is Deutsch.
The smart plug, I think you have to be cautious if you put too much Voltage it can melt.

FP91G

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Quote from: Didz on May 29, 2021, 03:11:22 PM

Funny when you wrote "useless things". On one wall socket with 2 entries, I have 4 rigs so 4 power cords to plug, how do I do without at least a power strip? So FP91G you don't look how many watts you draw from your wall sockets? Not surprising that some people put fire doing mining rig. Understanding the electricity and monitoring it is super important for safety and business management.

Before starting mining, I installed new wires, bought and installed the required number of sockets.
Controlling consumption with a wattmert when setting up a farm.
If one of the farms consumes more electricity, then I will see increased consumption when I take data for transmission to an energy-intensive company at the end of the month.
I can install a good digital voltmeter-ammeter ($ 10) on each wire and watch the readings through an online camera.

But every farm I have is plugged into an online outlet. I manage all farms from my phone. I can control power consumption and remotely turn on and off the mining farm. An online smart plug costs $ 20.
https://www.tp-link.com/de/home-networking/smart-plug/hs110/

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