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Quote from: Crypto_Capitalist! on January 31, 2020, 04:54:33 PM

Hi all fellow Bitcoin forum members. I’ve been a gambler for most all my life. Started gambling with bookies and in casinos and switched to online casino’s in the past 10 years. Over the last few months I’ve been trying out some crypto currency casinos. I really appreciate the traceability, anonymity, trackability, and speed of cash outs. I am very bullish on Bitcoin and believe it’s a great currency to keep my disposable income in as it may make a profit while in possession. What’s important for me in a casino is the following: superior customer service, honestly fair, regulated/licensed casinos, best lines and promotions and offer the best terms and conditions regarding pay outs and play.
Does anyone here have experiences with bitcoin casinos that are favorable? Am I missing any of critical traits that a good casino should have?
Thanks,
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Hello
I am not a full time gambler. I do it for fun when I have some extra bucks but I would suggest you to look for the casinos which are listed here in the signatures of the people. Most of them are wonderful, secure , have good payouts. You might have to browse through them for a while before you can figure out what you want.
As for me my biggest mistake was "Not checking the withdrawal fee etc." Most of the casinos have probelms with the VPN etc..you also have to see about that. But when talking about the *probably fair* there are some users out here who did post topics about it and it was interesting, you should definitely search them up. The seed thing I believe is not true.
For me my biggest mistake was depositing 50$ in a casino and realizing the minimum payout was 150-200$ and the payout needed such immense fee!! Around 50$ , for some players it was normal but for me I know some casinos where everything is not so complicated and expensive. Therefore I never used it again x_x .
Always read the rules and their fee. Always !

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Quote from: seleme on June 21, 2021, 04:17:48 PM

For verifying "provably fair" they give us hashed server seed and user seed but they can easily manipulate the bet result depending on the bet amount, so many new bitcoin casinos can influence nonce on seed placement, so it is better to be safe than sorry.

Is this even possible? Can you give us an example of a site doing that? The provably fair verification is always legit.

There's no way they can manipulate that. The result can be easily verified if true by those people who have knowledge about hashing.

If this is possible, who can really tell, you neither work with or have knowledge of the functionality of the system. No matter how well know you might be, it takes an insider to know if there is a back door to this effect or not.
Well, I don't do more of Casino betting but, if people can actually cheat in the physical casino halls, online casinos very much puts the casino owners in that line of actually cheating on a bet.
Mind you, the support team are very watchful and can tell when a big stake comes in. Mind you, no casino would want to loose on a big stake because, big stakes means big wins and big wins isn't real good for business when it comes often so, there could be about a way to avoiding this rather than leaving solely in the hands of fairness.

Its just a suspicion though and it could all be wrong, who knows!

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 21, 2021, 05:21:00 PM

Quote from: seleme on June 21, 2021, 04:17:48 PM

For verifying "provably fair" they give us hashed server seed and user seed but they can easily manipulate the bet result depending on the bet amount, so many new bitcoin casinos can influence nonce on seed placement, so it is better to be safe than sorry.

Is this even possible? Can you give us an example of a site doing that? The provably fair verification is always legit.

There's no way they can manipulate that. The result can be easily verified if true by those people who have knowledge about hashing.

Of course, it's not possible! It's provably fair or not... if it's not provably fair you can't verify it! And we have some people on this forum who are very good at this! They checked all the casinos here on the forum that claims to have provably fair games! If their research says it's fair I trust them... some of them even have their topics and nice discussions about this matter!

I think crypto casinos will have to work a lot more to come closer to some big names in fiat gambling, but that will happen one day! Simply evolution of crypto gambling (from only dice and crash games to what we have now) is amazing! Development never stops, so I am pretty optimistic about what I said! Thus, some crypto casinos have their own tokens, you get them with playing and you receive daily divs... I never heard about some fiat gambling site that has that feature! One of the reasons why getting into crypto gambling earlier as possible can be a wise decision.

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Quote from: Crypto_Capitalist! on January 31, 2020, 04:54:33 PM

Hi all fellow Bitcoin forum members. I’ve been a gambler for most all my life. Started gambling with bookies and in casinos and switched to online casino’s in the past 10 years. Over the last few months I’ve been trying out some crypto currency casinos. I really appreciate the traceability, anonymity, trackability, and speed of cash outs. I am very bullish on Bitcoin and believe it’s a great currency to keep my disposable income in as it may make a profit while in possession. What’s important for me in a casino is the following: superior customer service, honestly fair, regulated/licensed casinos, best lines and promotions and offer the best terms and conditions regarding pay outs and play.
Does anyone here have experiences with bitcoin casinos that are favorable? Am I missing any of critical traits that a good casino should have?
Thanks,
Crypto_Capitalist

as a person who is still a little new to online casino gambling, of course I hope this thread can provide a little knowledge and even share experiences about how to play tricks and choose the right casino parameters to be used as a reference for beginners like me who want to choose a casino, but in my opinion , as someone who has spent your life in gambling of course you have had many experiences both bitter and sweet and it would not hurt for you to share your experiences (discussions) here, but I see this thread has been abandoned for a long time and there is not a single reply that I have seen done by OP.

You can find a lot of casino websites in the gambling thread, those you can trust because if there were scam accusations it would be reflected in the trust of a manager/people advertising those websites, and in reviews, of course. There's plenty of such discussions, just today I saw this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-gambling-sites-with-internal-exchange-5282289
It's a list of gambling websites that offer an internal exchange, very convenient, especially with volatile prices and high fees. The listed casinos in there are all legit.

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Most of the gambling platforms today would like to have a fair play to their users also they want to care for their players also not all the day the gambling in favor with the player sometimes its is it does not depend on the luck of the player.

When finding a gambling casino it's better to make sure to always read their rules and regulation and with their Terms of conditions, it depends on the preferable of the player if they think it's suitable for their needs or not.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 22, 2021, 02:46:55 AM

Different online casinos has one unique feature or another perculiar to them but I doubt if I would be able yo recommend any to you just do some good research it's really not wise to give investment advice when it comes to cryto at the moment so you don't take the blame if it doesn't work out as expected. Do your research and make your investment choices.

Research before playing gambling will be necessary for every gambler to find the online casinos that can make them comfortable. Besides that, that way can help them prevent the scamming that is still looking for the new target. If you got a suggestion from other people in the name of the investment, you need to make sure that the investment program is legit and do not just follow what they say.

One big problem is that people make their research on the wrong place, social media can be a great way to keep up with your friends but when it comes to money no one should ever take what it is said on social media seriously, and yet they do and then they have to face the consequences of this mistake, however if you try to find useful information about casinos in the forum then you will find it as the trust system is a great way to keep track of the reputation of different casinos, and as long as you avoid the ones that have a negative reputation then you will be relatively safe.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 22, 2021, 02:46:55 AM

Different online casinos has one unique feature or another perculiar to them but I doubt if I would be able yo recommend any to you just do some good research it's really not wise to give investment advice when it comes to cryto at the moment so you don't take the blame if it doesn't work out as expected. Do your research and make your investment choices.

It's not a good advice to ask for those financial advice on the Internet especially with a volatile crypto. Researching is a good way to know some casinos but what I did back then was just play on the most famous website in the forum and just go for it and see where it gets me and most of the time, it's pretty good and no issues has been faced during those times.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 22, 2021, 02:46:55 AM

Different online casinos has one unique feature or another perculiar to them but I doubt if I would be able yo recommend any to you just do some good research it's really not wise to give investment advice when it comes to cryto at the moment so you don't take the blame if it doesn't work out as expected. Do your research and make your investment choices.

Research before playing gambling will be necessary for every gambler to find the online casinos that can make them comfortable. Besides that, that way can help them prevent the scamming that is still looking for the new target. If you got a suggestion from other people in the name of the investment, you need to make sure that the investment program is legit and do not just follow what they say.

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Quote from: Crypto_Capitalist! on January 31, 2020, 04:54:33 PM

Hi all fellow Bitcoin forum members. I’ve been a gambler for most all my life. Started gambling with bookies and in casinos and switched to online casino’s in the past 10 years. Over the last few months I’ve been trying out some crypto currency casinos. I really appreciate the traceability, anonymity, trackability, and speed of cash outs. I am very bullish on Bitcoin and believe it’s a great currency to keep my disposable income in as it may make a profit while in possession. What’s important for me in a casino is the following: superior customer service, honestly fair, regulated/licensed casinos, best lines and promotions and offer the best terms and conditions regarding pay outs and play.
Does anyone here have experiences with bitcoin casinos that are favorable? Am I missing any of critical traits that a good casino should have?
Thanks,
Crypto_Capitalist

as a person who is still a little new to online casino gambling, of course I hope this thread can provide a little knowledge and even share experiences about how to play tricks and choose the right casino parameters to be used as a reference for beginners like me who want to choose a casino, but in my opinion , as someone who has spent your life in gambling of course you have had many experiences both bitter and sweet and it would not hurt for you to share your experiences (discussions) here, but I see this thread has been abandoned for a long time and there is not a single reply that I have seen done by OP.

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Different online casinos has one unique feature or another perculiar to them but I doubt if I would be able yo recommend any to you just do some good research it's really not wise to give investment advice when it comes to cryto at the moment so you don't take the blame if it doesn't work out as expected. Do your research and make your investment choices.

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Quote from: seleme on June 21, 2021, 04:17:48 PM

For verifying "provably fair" they give us hashed server seed and user seed but they can easily manipulate the bet result depending on the bet amount, so many new bitcoin casinos can influence nonce on seed placement, so it is better to be safe than sorry.

Is this even possible? Can you give us an example of a site doing that? The provably fair verification is always legit.

There's no way they can manipulate that. The result can be easily verified if true by those people who have knowledge about hashing.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on June 17, 2021, 09:35:17 AM

A good casino should have a fair RNG. Indications of the game being fair, are when you have both winning days and losing days. If every day is a losing day, I think most can agree that's not a fair system.

By everyday is a losing day, you mean that the guy ends up with net negative profit for that current day? If that's the case, then no, it does not indicate that the system is not fair. You can end up with a loss almost everyday. The more you keep on playing, the more you will lose. But sadly, people thinks that they are getting scammed when they can't make profit.

Unfortunately this cannot be used to determine if the casino is fair or not, as we know given a large enough sample almost anything can happen so a casino could be fair and produce bad days and good days or it could produce almost exclusively bad days, but a casino could be cheating their customers and still produce a pattern similar to the one that we see in a fair casino, so those observations are not enough to tell us if we are in the presence of a casino that is cheating their customers or not.

I agree, there are crypto casinos with the shady business models. For verifying "provably fair" they give us hashed server seed and user seed but they can easily manipulate the bet result depending on the bet amount, so many new bitcoin casinos can influence nonce on seed placement, so it is better to be safe than sorry. In general, the more we play the more house will make money ake we will lose sooner or later.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on June 17, 2021, 09:35:17 AM

A good casino should have a fair RNG. Indications of the game being fair, are when you have both winning days and losing days. If every day is a losing day, I think most can agree that's not a fair system.

By everyday is a losing day, you mean that the guy ends up with net negative profit for that current day? If that's the case, then no, it does not indicate that the system is not fair. You can end up with a loss almost everyday. The more you keep on playing, the more you will lose. But sadly, people thinks that they are getting scammed when they can't make profit.

Unfortunately this cannot be used to determine if the casino is fair or not, as we know given a large enough sample almost anything can happen so a casino could be fair and produce bad days and good days or it could produce almost exclusively bad days, but a casino could be cheating their customers and still produce a pattern similar to the one that we see in a fair casino, so those observations are not enough to tell us if we are in the presence of a casino that is cheating their customers or not.

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Quote from: Crypto_Capitalist! on January 31, 2020, 04:54:33 PM

Does anyone here have experiences with bitcoin casinos that are favorable? Am I missing any of critical traits that a good casino should have?

I know that you got your answer but your last post here in this thread was 4 months ago, you should give us a follow up if you have found the right casinos to play on, and the parameters and advice that members here have given you makes you a better player, in case you happen to drop by here, tell us what you found based on the guide I'm sure many newbies will find the guide here helpful in their online gambling venture.

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Quote from: Crypto_Capitalist! on January 31, 2020, 04:54:33 PM

-Started gambling with bookies and in casinos and switched to online casino’s in the past 10 years. Over the last few months I’ve been trying out some crypto currency casinos. -

Seeing your 10-year experience, of course, we can not doubt your skills in gambling. Even though you are new at Crypto Gambling, but at least you already have a strong basis in gambling. And of course, you have understood the right to do gambling, especially in Crypto Gambling.
Yes right, anonymity might be one reason Crypto Gambling is an option. But now, we must be clever at choosing a platform, some gambling platforms may need KYC with your personal documents. And of course, this is one of the things that might not be liked. That is why later it can be more selective in choosing a gambling platform. More is not only related to anonymity but also security, reputation, and also reviews from previous users. It needs to be more alert to various crypto gambling that is fake or not reputable.

He has those experiences playing gambling, but if he plays gambling on the crypto gambling site, maybe he needs to try playing gambling on the crypto gambling site that we already had here. As @Wawa2013 said, we do not know the other gambling site except FortuneJack, which already with us for a long time ago and have a good reputation. Most gambling site here offers anonymity to the members so we do not have to worry about KYC.

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Quote from: adzino on June 17, 2021, 04:51:32 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on June 17, 2021, 09:35:17 AM

A good casino should have a fair RNG. Indications of the game being fair, are when you have both winning days and losing days. If every day is a losing day, I think most can agree that's not a fair system.

By everyday is a losing day, you mean that the guy ends up with net negative profit for that current day? If that's the case, then no, it does not indicate that the system is not fair. You can end up with a loss almost everyday. The more you keep on playing, the more you will lose. But sadly, people thinks that they are getting scammed when they can't make profit.

Quote from: Hydrogen on June 17, 2021, 09:35:17 AM

Mostly the ones afraid they might have a hard time withdrawing their money.

As long as they choose a legit casino and has done nothing suspicious, they shouldn't be worried about having a hard time withdrawing their money.

i can agree that you can end up losing everyday. but it doesn't mean the site is scamming you especially if youre playing in a legit casino. maybe the luck is not on your side, but you can always check their provable fairness in case you are still in doubt.
and if you stick in reputable casinos in the forum, i don't think you will have a prob in terms of withdrawal.
i guess by now the OP already realised those crypto casinos that are worth playing with.

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Quote from: Crypto_Capitalist! on January 31, 2020, 04:54:33 PM

-Started gambling with bookies and in casinos and switched to online casino’s in the past 10 years. Over the last few months I’ve been trying out some crypto currency casinos. -

Seeing your 10-year experience, of course, we can not doubt your skills in gambling. Even though you are new at Crypto Gambling, but at least you already have a strong basis in gambling. And of course, you have understood the right to do gambling, especially in Crypto Gambling.
Yes right, anonymity might be one reason Crypto Gambling is an option. But now, we must be clever at choosing a platform, some gambling platforms may need KYC with your personal documents. And of course, this is one of the things that might not be liked. That is why later it can be more selective in choosing a gambling platform. More is not only related to anonymity but also security, reputation, and also reviews from previous users. It needs to be more alert to various crypto gambling that is fake or not reputable.

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I did a bit of browsing and research and came up with a few ones that look legit and actually perform well, I thought I would share some findings with you:

Fortune Jack:
Customer service: 4, Fairness: 5, Regulations : 4, Offers: 4, Gen. Terms: 4 - SCORE /25: 21

7BitCasino:
Customer service: 2, Fairness: 4, Regulations : 5, Offers: 3, Gen. Terms: 3 - SCORE /25: 17

LatinBet24: (still playing on it)
Customer service: 4, Fairness: 5, Regulations : 5, Offers: 5, Gen. Terms: 4 - SCORE /25: 23

Bitstarz:
Customer service: 4, Fairness: 5, Regulations: 5, Offers: 4, Gen. Terms: 4 - SCORE /25: 22

Cafe casino: (had a bad experience here with withdrawals)
Customer service: 2, Fairness: 1, Regulations : 2, Offers: 4, Gen. Terms: 3 - SCORE /25: 12

WildCasino: (looked good but now I have my doubts)
Customer service: 3, Fairness: 4, Regulations : 5, Offers: 3, Gen. Terms: 4 - SCORE /25: 19

Tried all of the above and some others that are not even worth mentioning…
I ended up playing mostly on Latinbet24, their deposit bonus was legit and the sports betting and poker sections are great (which is what I do the most).

Hope this helps and please let me know what you think!

Wait , who gave you this gambling list? are youserious that pointing these all here in bitcointalk when there are only few of those that's been in this forum?

Bitstars and fortunejack are the only casino's that has been advertised here in bitcointalk.

The list is no good, but what we can expect out of a newbie? The only casinos that I trust in the market of cryptocurrencies are the ones that have been here in the forum for a long time and have a good reputation despite the many issues they have faced, and many of those websites on that list are completely unknown to me.

I agree that the list is not good and I don't recommend trying the gambling sites on the list except Fortune Jack. If we dig deeper into this forum,
there are many trusted gambling sites that we can use. My advice is always to choose a gambling site that does get positive feedback from most of
the members of this forum. Because in the online world there are so many scams, therefore choose a gambling platform that is trusted with a good
track record.

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Quote from: Crypto_Capitalist! on January 31, 2020, 04:54:33 PM

What’s important for me in a casino is the following: superior customer service, honestly fair, regulated/licensed casinos, best lines and promotions and offer the best terms and conditions regarding pay outs and play.
Does anyone here have experiences with bitcoin casinos that are favorable? Am I missing any of critical traits that a good casino should have?
Thanks,
Crypto_Capitalist

Security comes on top of the list for me. If a casino is not secure, it could get attacked and gamed putting it and it's active customers at a risk of losing funds.

One thing i liked about online casinos, particularly the ones dealing with crypto is that i get to avoid the over taxation (which is even double taxation) that is levied on our winnings in my Country.

I also prefer security over anything else because that's how we keep our funds safe. That's also the reason why I choose reputable and licensed casinos so if they would ask for KYC, I wouldn't doubt the safety of my personal information. There are actually well-known casinos that are secured and offers lots of great features and bonuses.

when i think of security i prefer to see my balances on my personal wallet than having to send the coins to a deposit address to the casino. only few might just consider this because BTC doesn't have the feature of smart contract.

so many crypto casinos are listed but they are not really known. some are not even doing signature campaigns here in bitcointalk. interesting to see how they got the reputation.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on June 17, 2021, 09:35:17 AM

A good casino should have a fair RNG. Indications of the game being fair, are when you have both winning days and losing days. If every day is a losing day, I think most can agree that's not a fair system.

By everyday is a losing day, you mean that the guy ends up with net negative profit for that current day? If that's the case, then no, it does not indicate that the system is not fair. You can end up with a loss almost everyday. The more you keep on playing, the more you will lose. But sadly, people thinks that they are getting scammed when they can't make profit.

Quote from: Hydrogen on June 17, 2021, 09:35:17 AM

Mostly the ones afraid they might have a hard time withdrawing their money.

As long as they choose a legit casino and has done nothing suspicious, they shouldn't be worried about having a hard time withdrawing their money.

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