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hero member
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May 16, 2017, 03:00:11 PM
#9
If I were you I'd split half of the GPUs cost between gtx 1070 and msi rx 570, now the difference in money between them and the sapphire radeons are not that big but msi cards are cool and quiet, even in a surrounding temprature of 35 degrees they don't go over 55 degrees on me, I'm talking about the rx 470 but the rx 570 will probably be the same, Nvidia cards have such good resale value that you can't go wrong with a rig of them. The Mobo you can try getting the ASRock h81 pro btc, or if you couldn't find it, people have been giving good reviews about the MSI z170A, plus I would think it would have a good resale value as it's not just for mining. The CPU/RAM I would get the cheapest option you'll find, try to get 8gb of ram as that will cost you like 20 euros per rig which on a bigger picture is not at all costly.

The Corsair psu sounds really good, a 6 card right will never go over 1200w, also yes the gtx 1080ti mines much better than the 1070 but it's much more costly.
newbie
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May 16, 2017, 02:27:09 PM
#8
Well if you guys say HX 1200 is enough for 6x1070gtx I will go for it.

But what about the 1080ti? Does it mine really that much better than the 1070 gtx ?
legendary
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May 16, 2017, 02:07:43 PM
#7
Hey guys and thanks for your reply!

Gpu: 1070 gtx sounds very interesting! To be honest i did not make a good research on that card before posting.
Unfortunately I didn't understand what you said about 1080ti  Cheesy but i think you meant that that card is not good for mining? When I read something on the internet  about  1080ti it's almost  all the time negative (for mining)
On the other side 1070 looks very good, (i compared on whattomine.com) 1070 vs other cards. Yes, 1070 is more expensive but you get a lot more options to mine on more platforms with better results than 4xx series.  Am I right?

And my hearth was always  on Nvidia side Smiley for some reason I just thought always that the 4xx RX serie is much more profitable for mining.

Mobo: i will take Asrock H81 Pro BTC or Asus Z270.

Psu: 203,29 €       Corsair HX Series HX1200 80PLUS Platinum 1200W is enough? Or
299,00 €        EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1300 1300W ATX 2.3 ?

Cpu: I didn't understand you here, so will the G4400 work or not?
 Grin

Thanks!


If you are going to build with Nvidia Gtx 1070 cards, HX series 1200 will hold up well up to six cards without problems as the power is the same as advertised in Nvidia website(personally tested) while if you will go for the Rx series get the Evga PSU as they consume more power than advertised by AMD, if you use stock settings. Beside that the GTX 1070 will use less watt than advertised when mining Zcash and Ethereum, about 125 watt with Zcash and about 110 watt with Ethereum.

For the motheboard don't play with fire, get one which can be easily installed in 6 GPU ,even 5 GTX 1070 are great for mining, so both options are OK as a motherboard for your purpose.
newbie
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May 16, 2017, 11:10:29 AM
#6
Unfortunately I didn't understand what you said about 1080ti  Cheesy but i think you meant that that card is not good for mining? When I read something on the internet  about  1080ti it's almost  all the time negative (for mining)

No the 1080Ti is FAST!!  Its the fastest stock card out there as far as I know.  I hope to change all my cards over to them when I have the $$$

750€ x 6 (1080ti) = 4500€ = 1500 watt (if it's 250watt? / card)
4500€ = 18 x rx 470 = 2250 watt (if it's 125 watt / card)

Maybe I am thinking wrong but wouldn't  I get much more mhs with 18 x 470 than 6 x 1080ti ?


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May 16, 2017, 10:41:34 AM
#5
Unfortunately I didn't understand what you said about 1080ti  Cheesy but i think you meant that that card is not good for mining? When I read something on the internet  about  1080ti it's almost  all the time negative (for mining)

No the 1080Ti is FAST!!  Its the fastest stock card out there as far as I know.  I hope to change all my cards over to them when I have the $$$

On the other side 1070 looks very good, (i compared on whattomine.com) 1070 vs other cards. Yes, 1070 is more expensive but you get a lot more options to mine on more platforms with better results than 4xx series.  Am I right?

Yep!

And my hearth was always  on Nvidia side Smiley for some reason I just thought always that the 4xx RX serie is much more profitable for mining.
A lot of guys like the AMD because they can boost them with Bios mods.  I dont Bios mod so it does me little good.  My gaming rigs always have Nvidia cards in them.


Cpu: I didn't understand you here, so will the G4400 work or not?
Yes go with the 4400.  Both I have had have worked right out of the box with over 4 GPU's.

newbie
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May 16, 2017, 10:17:53 AM
#4
Hey guys and thanks for your reply!

Gpu: 1070 gtx sounds very interesting! To be honest i did not make a good research on that card before posting.
Unfortunately I didn't understand what you said about 1080ti  Cheesy but i think you meant that that card is not good for mining? When I read something on the internet  about  1080ti it's almost  all the time negative (for mining)
On the other side 1070 looks very good, (i compared on whattomine.com) 1070 vs other cards. Yes, 1070 is more expensive but you get a lot more options to mine on more platforms with better results than 4xx series.  Am I right?

And my hearth was always  on Nvidia side Smiley for some reason I just thought always that the 4xx RX serie is much more profitable for mining.

Mobo: i will take Asrock H81 Pro BTC or Asus Z270.

Psu: 203,29 €       Corsair HX Series HX1200 80PLUS Platinum 1200W is enough? Or
299,00 €        EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1300 1300W ATX 2.3 ?

Cpu: I didn't understand you here, so will the G4400 work or not?
 Grin

Thanks!
legendary
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May 16, 2017, 07:41:38 AM
#3
I would advise to not make any compromises with the motherboard and the PSU, all other pieces can be found a workaround for them. I would recommend you a Asrock H81 Pro BTC motherboard as it supports easily 6 Graphic cards for mining without the need to modify anything in the bios. For the PSU get one very powerful to hold 6 cards, a 1300 Evga Platinum rated would be good enough. For the other parts decide which ever you like.
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May 16, 2017, 07:18:42 AM
#2
GPU
If I were starting out (and a budget like your) I would seriously look into Nvidia cards.  The 1070 base is just as good as a Bios Mod AMD RX---.  The 1080Ti is what I aspire to change to...  They do well on ETH and are kick butt on some of the Alt coins.  Price is a bit higher to begin with but resale value is incredible.  Just look at Ebay and other places at the used prices...  They are usually very close to the price of a new card.  

If your heart is set on AMD then I would go RX470.  From what I have heard guys are having issues mix and matching the RX400 and RX500 on the same system so that may be an issue...

CPU
Go with the Sky Lake 4400.  I have tried to get the Caby Lake  2.8 to work but have never been able to get more than 4 cards to run on one.  I am not saying it is not possible but both my Sky Lakes were plug and play...

Mobo
I would probably look into the Asus 270's.  6 workable slots and easy to update mod bios if you need to.

PSU
Don't skimp on a PSU.  When I started I picked up a cheap 1k and well... you get what you pay for.  I prefer the EVGA's but I have a Corsair that holds it's own.

Memory
I have both 4 and 8 gb builds both work just fine on Win 10.

Case
I use these cases on all my rigs.  Took me a bit to get used to making them but after the 2nd case I built they seem to get much easier.

SSD
Depends on what OS and Mining system you are going to be using.  If you can use Linx then SmOS only requires a thumb drive (CHEAP!).  Check their post in here and read up on that system.  If you want to go Windows then I would go with the SSD and also check into Minerstat's post in this forum.  I have all my rigs on that and that system is super easy to run once it is installed.

Hope that helps... Wish I had been smart enough to make a post like yours before I jumped into the deep end of the pool ha ha!  
newbie
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May 16, 2017, 06:52:42 AM
#1
Hi guys!

i decided to join the mining world and start with gpu mining.

Budget: around 10k€
my Plan: i was thinking to build my first mining rig, configure it, optimize all settings and see how it goes. If it fits my expectations i will stock up.
electricity cost: 16 cent/khW (i might switch my provider wich will safe me around 1-2 cent)


I would really appreciate your help in choosing the right hardware for me - just a little note, personaly i am willing to learn about flashing bios, changing straps, optimizing stuff with OC and so on but thats my first mining rig and i dont want to loose my AWESOME motivation cause nothings works (like driver problem) Grin dont get me wrong! Of course i am not going to mine with the stock settings. Also, i would really love it if the hardware would be really quite, and the cooling would be good (guess like everybody else)

So after some research what is available here (in Austria), here is the list:

GPU:
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 470 4G D5        226,29 €
ASUS ROG Strix Radeon RX 470 OC, STRIX-RX470-O4G-GAMING, 4GB   249,00 €   
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 470 8G D5   289,00 €   
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 480 4G D5 4GB      260,82 €
Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 G1 Gaming 8G, 8GB   290,04 €
Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 Gaming 4G, 4GB   211,00 €
Gigabyte Aorus Radeon RX 570 4G, 4GB           215,75 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 4GB   254,00 €
Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 570 4GD5, 4GB   220,00 €
MSI Radeon RX 570 Gaming X 4G, 4GB           234,90 €
ASUS Expedition Radeon RX 570 OC, EX-RX570-O4G, 4GB            218,00 €
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 570 8GD5, 8GB   249,90 € (i am not 100% sure if i can get that card)
Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 Gaming 4G, 4GB   224,90 € (i am not 100% sure if i can get that card)
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 4GD5, 4GB   251,00 €
Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 4GD5, 4GB   230,00 €
MSI Radeon RX 580 Armor 4G OC, 4GB          235,46 €
Gigabyte Aorus Radeon RX 580 4G, 4GB           236,92 €
MSI Radeon RX 580 Gaming X 4G, 4GB           261,00 €
Gigabyte Aorus Radeon RX 580 8G, 8GB           286,00 €
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GD5, 8GB   294,00 €
MSI Radeon RX 580 Armor 8G OC, 8GB           280,00 €
ASUS ROG Strix Radeon RX 580 OC, ROG-STRIX-RX580-O8G-GAMING, 8GB      318,00 €

I read here at these forum that 27 page official 570/580 Thread but still cannot decide what to choose  Huh What i remember is that in generaly the RX 5xx series have more "driver problems", specialy in setting up and optimizing but is better for resale? Or did everything change already

CPU:
Intel Celeron G1840, 2x 2.80GHz, boxed         34,80 € (1150)
Intel Pentium G4400, 2x 3.30GHz, boxed         54,27 € (1151)

Are those enough? What about cooling? Is the boxed enough?

Motherboard:
ASRock Z97 Anniversary (90-MXGVH0-A0UAYZ)   80,17 €   1x PCIe 3.0 x16, 3x PCIe 2.0 x1, 2x PCI
ASRock H81 Pro BTC R2.0   103,14 €   1x PCIe 2.0 x16, 5x PCIe 2.0
ASRock Z97 Extreme4/3.1   142,90 €   3x PCIe 3.0 x16 (1x x16, 1x x8, 1x x4), 3x PCIe 2.0 x1, 1x M.2/​M-Key (PCIe 2.0 x2/​SATA, 22110/​2280/​2260/​2242/​2230)
Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3HP   79,47 €   1x PCIe 3.0 x16, 1x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4), 3x PCIe 2.0 x1, 2x PCI
MSI Z170A Gaming Pro Carbon   135,79 €   3x PCIe 3.0 x16 (1x x16, 1x x8, 1x x4), 4x PCIe 3.0 x1, 1x M.2/​M-Key (PCIe 3.0 x4/​SATA, 2280/​2260/​2242)
ASUS Prime Z270-A   154,19 € 3x PCIe 3.0 x16 (1x x16, 1x x8, 1x x4), 4x PCIe 3.0 x1, 1x M.2/​M-Key (PCIe 3.0 x4/​SATA, 22110/​2280/​2260/​2242), 1x M.2/​M-Key (PCIe 3.0 x4, 2280/​2260/​2242)

PSU:
203,29 €       Corsair HX Series HX1200 80PLUS Platinum 1200W ATX 2.4       1x 20/24-Pin, 2x 8-Pin EPS12V, 8x 6/8-Pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 8x IDE, 1x Floppy • +3.3V: 30A • +5V: 30A • +12V: 100A • -12V: 0.8A • +5Vsb: 3.5A
299,00 €        EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1300 1300W ATX 2.3       1x 24-Pin, 2x 4/8-Pin ATX12V, 6x 6/8-Pin PCIe, 2x 6-Pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 5x IDE, 1x Floppy • +3.3V: 24A • +5V: 24A • +12V: 108.3A • -12V: 0.5A • +5Vsb: 3.0A
260,77 €        be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 1200W ATX 2.4       : 1x 20/24-Pin, 1x 8-Pin EPS12V, 1x 4/8-Pin ATX12V, 1x 4-Pin ATX12V, 8x 6/8-Pin PCIe, 1x 6-Pin PCIe, 10x SATA, 7x IDE, 2x Floppy, 4x Lüfter • +3.3V: 25A • +5V: 25A • +12V1: 35A • +12V2: 35A • +12V3: 45A • +12V4: 45A • -12V: 0.5A • +5Vsb: 3.0A
275,00 €        Thermaltake ToughPower DPS G 1200W Platinum ATX 2.31       1x 24-Pin, 1x 8-Pin EPS12V, 1x 4/8-Pin ATX12V, 8x 6/8-Pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 8x IDE, 2x Floppy • +3.3V: 25A • +5V: 22A • +12V: 100A • -12V: 0.3A • +5Vsb: 3.0A
277,84 €         Gigabyte XP1200M 1200W ATX 2.31      1x 20/​24-Pin, 2x 4/​8-Pin ATX12V, 6x 6/​8-Pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 8x IDE, 2x Floppy • +3.3V: 25A • +5V: 22A • +12V: 100A • -12V: 0.3A • +5Vsb: 2.5A

Psu/GPU Pin? Do i need to buy extra "Pins"?

Ram:
Kingston HyperX Fury blue DIMM 4GB, DDR3-1600, CL10   32,37 €
Kingston HyperX Fury blue DIMM 8GB, DDR3-1600, CL10    61,50 €

Are 4gb enough or better take 8gb?

SSD:
SanDisk Plus 120GB, SATA   55,99 €  Interface: SATA 6Gb/s • Read: 530MB/s • Write: 400MB/s

Case: i was thinking to make something like that  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfE_QidD75M. Do you guys have some cheap alternatives?

Thanks!
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