My friend introduce me to btc. At first I was hesitant.....

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 21, 2018, 05:17:56 AM

Check this out. The vast majority of posts in this spam megathread say exactly the same thing, and it makes me think this is either a bunch of alt accounts or there's some sort of template circulating in Indonesia or the Philippines.

How could you determine that their from Indonesia or Philippines? I can't open those quoted links so maybe you could give me some heads up. Also, merit system already addressed those problems, starting from account farming to limiting old members to rank up if they are giving nonsense posts.

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Quote from: tokeweed on April 21, 2018, 07:12:58 AM

Edit: I posted this a while ago, but it's still a good read. They gamed and cheated the first Stellar giveaway done years ago. Lol.

The Bot Bubble: Click Farms Have Inflated Social Media Currency
https://newrepublic.com/article/121551/bot-bubble-click-farms-have-inflated-social-media-currency

I just read this and I don't see how it's relevant to my suggestion. My suggestion would actually stop this sort of behaviour because this is what is likely going on now. Much like people are farming facebook accounts and likes etc people have been farming accounts here for years and now they'll be doing so with merit. In fact, it's much easier and probably much more profitable to farm accounts here now. On facebook you need a valid email address and a phone number. Here you need neither of those. Now, people farm accounts in an industrial scale both here and on facebook because it's completely free to do so other than a minimal bit of effort (which is obviously well worth it). Create an account, make some shitposts or copy and paste something and earn from any one of the hundreds of crapcoin campaigns that are constantly willing to pay you to spread their scam. If the only way you can have a signature here is to pay a hefty fee then this pretty much puts a stop to this industrial abuse instantly. Genuine users can have one or two accounts to post/earn with but the people who come here to abuse lazy campaigns with their dozens to hundreds of accounts are out of luck.

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Quote from: tokeweed on April 21, 2018, 07:12:58 AM

^ Not a good idea imo. Those idiots are obviously doing this professionally. So they'd be willing to pay no matter how high the fee is. While it's the real users who would rather leave.

Edit: I posted this a while ago, but it's still a good read. They gamed and cheated the first Stellar giveaway done years ago. Lol.

The Bot Bubble: Click Farms Have Inflated Social Media Currency
https://newrepublic.com/article/121551/bot-bubble-click-farms-have-inflated-social-media-currency

Nice article, man!!
There are many bot farmers, you can actually buy a Youtube or instagram visitors for a low price. In my country, if you want 2.000 followers on instagram, you will pay around of 200 dollars, and behold!! You're famous!!
Recently I saw an experimental documentary showing how to become a successful instagramer in a week. They just picked a girl (an actress), borrow some clothes from fashion shops, dress up the girl, take some pictures of her and buy 5.000 bots-instagram followers. In less than a month she was ask to go for free to some nice restaurants, and she was invited to any social-fashion event you can imagine. The girl acted as if her account was real, and now she's actually getting huge profits from it.
Many, many middle-famous people begin this way, for the social media is programmed to give them more views based on their followers, and to scale up is easier if you make a tiny investment.
It is amazing how important bots has become. But it is amazing this kind of stuff has any probability of survival in a Forum like this one. Instagram is one thing, but here? Really?
That's the reason why I think we need as soon as possible a report button in each profile section...

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Quote from: athanz88 on April 22, 2018, 09:01:52 AM

Yeah admin should use that legendary ban hammer given by Thor since he will get a new one in 5 days Grin

. It is very hard to get rid of spammer if someone is not using it. By the way, what the f is that songs intro man @TheQuin, it is weird, very weird.

I know that they get an instant permaban for copy pasting but I don't really know what the policy is on banning spammers. It's all a bit subjective which is why that lyric "bend not break the rules" came to mind. They seem to find a way of doing just enough not to get banned most of the time. It's probably a good job I'm not moderator because my ban hammer would be worn out.

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Quote from: TheQuin on April 21, 2018, 04:05:08 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 21, 2018, 03:31:32 PM

YES, I'M NAIVE.

Nah, you're not naive. They just learned how to bend not break the rules. I learned that in that 70's. The simplest way to solve this problem is just telling the moderators to ban every spammer.

Let's go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOJSM46nWwo

Yeah admin should use that legendary ban hammer given by Thor since he will get a new one in 5 days Grin

. It is very hard to get rid of spammer if someone is not using it. By the way, what the f is that songs intro man @TheQuin, it is weird, very weird.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on April 21, 2018, 05:59:48 AM

One guy contact me on Facebook some time ago, asking some stupid questions about the bounties here, then ask me, home many account I have and that one of his friends was managing a few accounts with more than 80 bounties simultaneously, and he was wondering how can he managed all this work....so this is the result...

80 bounties simultaneously?! Dang it! Some people can be fucking selfish. I know most people may want to earn few BTC through a signature campaign, but at least do it and have the best intentions for the forum in mind. I guess this are the accounts that shit posts. Sometimes, I find it hard to complete my signature task for the week cause I have an offline work and activities to manage. It's so heart breaking that some people can do things to the extreme because of money.

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When I read 50, 70 posts in a thread and see them all talking about the same thing, I'd report the OP and say that, this thread should be trashed.
I did exactly like what you did, I reported 40-50 garbage posts and at the end said that I'm done, this is just taking too much of my time and nobody
Is really stopping them.

Here theymos, have your free speech, offensive and extreme opinions. enjoy bro.
If you want a forum without these garbage producers, let a few volunteers disable their signatures. I wouldn't want you to hire me as a moderator/staff.
Just let me and OP here to clean some of the sections. you have our reports, you know what we would generally consider to be junk. I am offering my time. I don't want any power other than power of deleting posts of newbies, Jr members and members.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 21, 2018, 03:31:32 PM

YES, I'M NAIVE.

Nah, you're not naive. They just learned how to bend not break the rules. I learned that in that 70's. The simplest way to solve this problem is just telling the moderators to ban every spammer.

Let's go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOJSM46nWwo

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Quote from: BTCeminjas on April 21, 2018, 03:27:04 PM

Probably copy-pasting is made by those handling many alt accounts, they can't manage it well. lol.

This isn't copy/pasting, though. This whole thing reeks of something big and organized--organized enough such that there was an outline of a template post that was used to create all of those posts I quoted. How that was done is perplexing to me.

YES, I'M NAIVE.

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And that's what people why they are coming here just to earn a profit on the signature campaign or other bounties rewards.
Some of them making an alt account just hoping to earn more and that's part of being human a "greediness".

Quote from: Tyrantt on April 21, 2018, 03:01:47 PM

Finding them isn't that hard, I know that thread and every post is like that. Grin

Copy/pasting here probably took longer.

Yeah, we could help them DT members, Moderators, and Admin in cleaning the forum by clicking "Report to Moderator".
Probably copy-pasting is made by those handling many alt accounts, they can't manage it well. lol.

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Quote from: GoldenLad on April 21, 2018, 01:53:28 PM

Whoa! The Pharmacist! Hey man, you really took out your time to fish these out.

It did take some time, but it wasn't hard finding the posts--they were all in a single thread.

I was searching for copy/pasters, and I happened to stumble on that generic mega spam thread. The way I search is the old-fashioned way, close reading, so as I was doing that I started seeing endless variations of what I wrote in this thread's title here. It actually blew my mind, because I just started seeing more...and more.

What I'm wondering is how many people are involved, and whether this is some sort of ring of spammers--AND how they all came up with this idiotic outline of what to write (My friend introduced me to bitcoin.....). It seems bizarre to me, but I know exactly why they're doing it. They're making bank.

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I am from Indonesia, and i feel embarassed too by this kind of members. People here tend to have poor mentality and they will do anything to get money, even though it is against the rules and their belief (which is a sin). I will not feel sorry if someday they got tagged or banned because people have proof of their cheating act. In fact, i really hope that higher authority like mod or admin can clean this forum from spammer like that. If you have time, maybe you, ThePharmacist, can do some work together with Indonesian local board mods, BitRentx and dbshck.

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Quote from: mdayonliner on April 21, 2018, 05:22:40 AM

LOL I wonder how much time you have spent finding all these comments

Finding them isn't that hard, I know that thread and every post is like that. Grin

Copy/pasting here probably took longer.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 21, 2018, 05:17:56 AM

Check this out.
~snip~

Nice finding out those dreamers however it doesn't end their dreams in sleep paralysis.

Quote from: mdayonliner on April 21, 2018, 05:22:40 AM

LOL I wonder how much time you have spent finding all these comments
I blame the signature campaigns for this kind of actions.
Hey, great job!!!

PS: I guess I have now a ready template to spam the forum. Tongue

Actually the template has been already made by yours truly theymos it was called Bitcoin Discussion.

Quote from: Jet Cash on April 21, 2018, 05:51:07 AM

I see several threads and videos on Steemit and YouTube about the money that can be made by exploiting this forum and members of Bitcoin Talk, and I am sure that similar posts appear on Twitter and other sites. The basic concept seems to be to sign up for as many accounts as you can, and inter-post to increase activity and merit. You sign up with the bounty scammers to pick up a bit of income on the way, and when you have received a bit of rank on some of the accounts, you sell them for a few hundred dollars. I assume that the buyers will be other bounty pushers, and it is probably cheaper for a bounty manager to buy a few accounts to run himself, than to pay members to post rubbish to promote his scam,

Until Bitcoin Talk pulls itself out of the cesspit of bounty hunting and account farming, it is going to have to face up to ever increasing costs of moderating the boards, and the evaluation of new members. I hope that the admins will consider the position of the forum when bounty hunting and ICOs are made illegal in most countries.

Either anyone would do anything for the survival of their species or just do it for (gold) always believe in your soul they are indestructible.

I have an idea why theymos was against with paying for wearing a signature (probably) he saw many account with the same IP address and thought that the database will be against all odds also could leave a really deep collateral damage with the system for being in an obnoxious state just my two cents.

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I read the title and was like " what the f*** is going on"

Then I figured some alt/or someone you blackballed found your first forum post or something and was throwing you under the bus.

I actually think people out there are running "~~call~~ spam centers" hiring locals for pennies a day to log in and use their "scripted responses" and just type away all day long.

At first I was hesistant on this theory; but then the business model made sense when my friend introduced it to me.

* I demand 40% of any spam center that takes my business model.

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Quote from: GoldenLad on April 21, 2018, 01:53:28 PM

I saw an article on steemit that stating how one can open 10! Accounts here and post to make money. I am very sure whoever wrote that article is equally an account farmer here.

What really annoys me is that those guys are promoting Steemit as the Bitcoin info forum so that they can promote their posts and blogs to pick up Steem payments.

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Whoa! The Pharmacist! Hey man, you really took out your time to fish these out. And I agree with JetCash, I think its not only the family and friends that caused the overflow if alt accounts shit posting in this forum. Most articles on the web have really contributed to this. I saw an article on steemit that stated how one can open 10! Accounts here and post to make money. I am very sure whoever wrote that article is equally an account farmer here.

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I just thought what would happen if similar situation happened in real life. People roaming about and asking similar questions to each other in broken english and getting same repetitive answers. As @hilarious said it would definitely be mind-numbing.

Btw, I would have to stop introducing crypto to my friends or their posts might end up here. /s

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Quote from: stompix on April 21, 2018, 10:07:28 AM

Now you're being naive..

Yeah. I keep having to awake to the reality that I'm not dealing with human beings with brains and/or functional eyes. Maybe if I ratchet down my expectations below sidewalk level I won't be constantly disappointed.

Quote from: hilariousetc on April 21, 2018, 10:29:51 AM

Shit's mind-numbing. I swear I've lost IQ points moderating this forum.

I can only imagine.

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