My gadgets store now accept bitcoin!

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 30, 2021, 05:34:39 PM

That's nice thing! But you haven't said one important thing - where is you're store located? If you'll post address, maybe someone from forum will visit your store if he lives not farvfrom it

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Maybe Bitcoin fits better for online stores, not physical ones, but I support such initiatives. It's difficult to expect that significant part of users will pay in Bitcoin, but I'm sure that you'll find people who will appreciate that you give such option.
But I always had question about physical stores and Bitcoin. What they are doing when it takes hours to confirm transaction?

Quote from: sam00 on September 23, 2021, 06:48:15 AM

Where I live (In Germany), you can basically return anything you bought within a few weeks in most stores.
If you damaged something or already used it up, that obviously doesn't apply but for tech stuff you just keep the receipt and return the product if you don't like it.
In this scenario, I could definitely buy something with bitcoin and profit from refund it

It's like shorting/selling bitcoin to fiat and if the price goes up, you just reverse it

I think it more applies when you buy online, you have 14 days to return gadgets even without any reason.
But when you buy in physical store, you can return device simply because you didn't liked it. It must be valid reason behind it - you got it damaged or it doesn't work properly.

There are several stores in germany that offer this kind of service for their customers. They sell thousands of units of one product so they can afford just refunding to certain customers. A few weeks ago, we bought an iron (the thing you straighten your clothes with) and we specifically asked at the store (ALDI, to be specific) if we could return it if we didn't like it and we were told that we had 30 days to return it without any problems Cheesy

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That's nice thing! But you haven't said one important thing - where is you're store located? If you'll post address, maybe someone from forum will visit your store if he lives not farvfrom it

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Maybe Bitcoin fits better for online stores, not physical ones, but I support such initiatives. It's difficult to expect that significant part of users will pay in Bitcoin, but I'm sure that you'll find people who will appreciate that you give such option.
But I always had question about physical stores and Bitcoin. What they are doing when it takes hours to confirm transaction?

Quote from: sam00 on September 23, 2021, 06:48:15 AM

Where I live (In Germany), you can basically return anything you bought within a few weeks in most stores.
If you damaged something or already used it up, that obviously doesn't apply but for tech stuff you just keep the receipt and return the product if you don't like it.
In this scenario, I could definitely buy something with bitcoin and profit from refund it

It's like shorting/selling bitcoin to fiat and if the price goes up, you just reverse it

I think it more applies when you buy online, you have 14 days to return gadgets even without any reason.
But when you buy in physical store, you can return device simply because you didn't liked it. It must be valid reason behind it - you got it damaged or it doesn't work properly.

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Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:11:00 AM

I got the idea from members here who implemented the idea before me. Thanks to them I didn't feel alone business are starting to accept bitcoin as payment. I also buy and sell bitcoins and giftcards. Here is a list of what I have done please tell me if I am missing anything. Suggestions will be appreciated

Congrats, that's good and the best thing here is that it's not the first time that this kind of thing happened from this forum. Btw I will be glad if you share how much demand there is on bitcoin payments in overall and compared to other payment methods according to the volume in your store.

Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:11:00 AM

-Use lightning network

Great! No, Amazing!

Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:11:00 AM

- A gift bag for customers who pay in bitcoin

It will be great if we start some campaign like: #IPaidWithBitcoin. Imagine, bag with that hashtag print on one side and your company's logo on another side, this will be great. And if that hashtag will become massive, it will just be great and show the support from small companies. Just remember how it was on Vote NBA. There was so huge support on some people on facebook via that hashtag that some people discovered new players and even new countries Cheesy

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Quote from: sam00 on September 28, 2021, 02:42:04 AM

Quote from: badut829 on September 27, 2021, 11:20:10 PM

In a physical shop, you also risk consumers double-spending (by paying you, then leaving before their transaction is verified, and then creating a new transaction using the same unspent outputs as an input... I guess you could think of those individuals as techy shoplifters, which you presumably already have to deal with.)

Wouldn't that only be possible if customers don't use the lightning network ?
I have no experience using the lightning network but as far as I understand, transactions are super quick (only a few seconds) and OP could confirm the transaction while the customer is still in the store .

See these two things which had been possible transactions using LN
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/lightning-network-bitcoin-usage-adoption-el-salvador
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/09/07/flexa-hops-into-el-salvador-with-lightning-payments-as-bitcoin-law-goes-live/

So this simply means it could really be integrated.

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Quote from: badut829 on September 27, 2021, 11:20:10 PM

In a physical shop, you also risk consumers double-spending (by paying you, then leaving before their transaction is verified, and then creating a new transaction using the same unspent outputs as an input... I guess you could think of those individuals as techy shoplifters, which you presumably already have to deal with.)

Wouldn't that only be possible if customers don't use the lightning network ?
I have no experience using the lightning network but as far as I understand, transactions are super quick (only a few seconds) and OP could confirm the transaction while the customer is still in the store .

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Excellent work. Cool

In terms of what you're lacking, it appears that you have a basic setup, which is OK...

People who pay in BTC get a little discount on the site I helped set up; this was a no-brainer because other payment alternatives have a large charge and run the risk of clients cheating the owner by requesting a refund... In a physical shop, you also risk consumers double-spending (by paying you, then leaving before their transaction is verified, and then creating a new transaction using the same unspent outputs as an input... I guess you could think of those individuals as techy shoplifters, which you presumably already have to deal with.)

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Quote from: Magicalking on September 25, 2021, 04:51:13 AM

When I get a customer who pays in Bitcoin I will gladly upload the first Bitcoin transaction made in my store

Though that's not necessary and if you think that's a good idea then go ahead. Any third-party app/services that you have use for this?
Think about using Lightning Network too, this is good for the microtransactions that possible you have to save from the possible high fee but as of now, the network isn't congested yet.

You helped to spread awareness about Bitcoin acceptance as an alternative to cash, this is not about the ads it also brings people to have an interest in Bitcoin investment.

If you have registered in an online store, you need to have a Bitcoin payment gateway.

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Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:11:00 AM

Here is a list of what I have done please tell me if I am missing anything. Suggestions will be appreciated
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Utilize the free space that's available on top of the countertop display cases, with the help of a bunch of plastic sign holders and catchy phrases ^{[one in each and don't overdo it (main focus should be on why you accept BTCitcoin, as opposed to a BTCitcoin accepted sign)]}.

In addition to @Lucius's suggestion about having a color, don't slap the whole print on the glass door ^{[trim the excess to make it look like a sticker]}.

Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:11:00 AM

-Customized paper bag showing we accept Bitcoin
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https://i.ibb.co/g6vGn66/Photo-Grid-1632383173460.png

If you're referring to the image that's on the bottom right corner, then it doesn't look good!
^{- You have to do a lot better than a partial BTCitcoin logo that's buried beneath other images.}

Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:11:00 AM

- Customized Bitcoin t-shirts for staff

Can we see how it looks?

Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:48:26 PM

I just started and haven't had any customer paying in Bitcoin yet.
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I just have to do more to publicity.

If you had a website, I would've suggested listing it on various crypto directories.

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Quote from: Magicalking on September 25, 2021, 04:51:13 AM

This topic imo is good for Bitcoin discussion. The others were not moved to service discussion. Is it because I uploaded photos of my store? My topic isn't selling merchandise I don't see the relevance of taking the discussion here. TBH the discussion has become stale since it was moved.

There are other similar examples besides the one you showed, and this one even has a photo so I believe that's not the reason why the mod moved it to this board.

You have 3 possible options:

- as far as I know, you can move the topic back to the desired board and risk it being reported and moved again.
- you can open the topic in Meta and ask the question you have already asked in your previous post, it is possible that you will get an answer from the moderator who handles this case.
- you can simply come to terms with the situation and do nothing.

Quote from: Magicalking on September 25, 2021, 04:51:13 AM

When I get a customer who pays in Bitcoin I will gladly upload the first Bitcoin transaction made in my store .

It’s your decision, but because of you and the customer’s privacy maybe the details of the transaction shouldn’t be public. Although you can show a paper bill on which you will blur details that you do not want to be shown publicly.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 24, 2021, 03:48:44 AM

I also believe OP’s decision will also be “the cause” for other people around his place to become more curious about what “this Bitcoin” is and research about it on their own. Many of them will join with greed in mind, but the others will stay for the movement. Cool

Curiosity would always be there and these kind of steps or movement is really helping out to spread the awareness of bitcoin existence which is really giving out that positive effect because adoption could increase more
if there would be more merchants would consider on accepting or integrating bitcoin as a payment.

Good to see that it is already available on some places on where they could really make use of their coins to buy up gadgets and sadly it isnt really still possible here on my place
but i wont be surprised that soon there would be one.

@OP, nice thing you have done on here.

Curiousity, then Greed, then HODL. Cool

It’s a very familiar path for me, and I believe it will be a familiar path for EVERYONE in Bitcoinland. They might be continuing in trading shitcoins, but the reserve currency for HODL will always be Bitcoin. Shitcoins are for ponzis/scams, Bitcoin is for science.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 25, 2021, 04:38:52 AM

Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:48:26 PM

My topic was moved from Bitcoin discussion. Any idea why?

For the reason that someone reported your topic as content that is not suitable for Bitcoin discussion, although there were similar topic that I didn't notice were moved (although I may be wrong).

This topic imo is good for Bitcoin discussion. The others were not moved to service discussion. Is it because I uploaded photos of my store? My topic isn't selling merchandise I don't see the relevance of taking the discussion here. TBH the discussion has become stale since it was moved.

Quote from: Lucius on September 25, 2021, 04:38:52 AM

Promotion and advertising are the keys to success (at least so they say), but there is always the question of how much people are aware of the existence of alternative payment methods such as Bitcoin. It's no secret that most still see everything as an investment, but don't let that discourage you, I believe you will soon get your first customer which will pay in Bitcoin Wink

I see Bitcoin first as a decentralized currency and also a reasonable investment (done over 200 percent profits). When I get a customer who pays in Bitcoin I will gladly upload the first Bitcoin transaction made in my store

Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 24, 2021, 03:48:44 AM

I also believe OP’s decision will also be “the cause” for other people around his place to become more curious about what “this Bitcoin” is and research about it on their own. Many of them will join with greed in mind, but the others will stay for the movement. Cool

You're right many will join because of greed. I have to get customers paying in Bitcoin first. That will prick the interest of my neighbors.

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Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:48:26 PM

My topic was moved from Bitcoin discussion. Any idea why?

For the reason that someone reported your topic as content that is not suitable for Bitcoin discussion, although there were similar topic that I didn't notice were moved (although I may be wrong).

Quote from: Magicalking on September 23, 2021, 03:48:26 PM

More colors and bulletin board like @Lucius suggested is noted. I hope to catch the eye of people interested in cryptocurrency

Promotion and advertising are the keys to success (at least so they say), but there is always the question of how much people are aware of the existence of alternative payment methods such as Bitcoin. It's no secret that most still see everything as an investment, but don't let that discourage you, I believe you will soon get your first customer which will pay in Bitcoin Wink

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 24, 2021, 03:48:44 AM

I also believe OP’s decision will also be “the cause” for other people around his place to become more curious about what “this Bitcoin” is and research about it on their own. Many of them will join with greed in mind, but the others will stay for the movement. Cool

Curiosity would always be there and these kind of steps or movement is really helping out to spread the awareness of bitcoin existence which is really giving out that positive effect because adoption could increase more
if there would be more merchants would consider on accepting or integrating bitcoin as a payment.

Good to see that it is already available on some places on where they could really make use of their coins to buy up gadgets and sadly it isnt really still possible here on my place
but i wont be surprised that soon there would be one.

@OP, nice thing you have done on here.

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I think this is a win-win situation for OP & Bitcoin ad well. OP keeping role in Bitcoin adaption, and Bitcoin helping free marketing. When Bitcoin users will notice your shop they will encourage to buy something from you with Bitcoin even they don't need much. It's a kind of curiosity. I would do the same at least for the real experience of using Bitcoin directly in real life. So I believe OP will get a few new customers just for accepting Bitcoin. Even it would help others to introduce Bitcoin to those who aren't familiar with it. You have done a Good job OP, keep it up.

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Quote from: dunfida on September 23, 2021, 05:00:09 PM

He should really be wise with this scenario or else it would really be gotten abused but as a business owner then you arent that dumb on not to differentiate on what items need to be returned or not.

You arent dumb on giving out or grant those request and this is why you should really be that observant and be wise even with this business specially you are accepting crypto payments.
It could always have its pro's and cons but well it will vary on how you do handle it though.

Well in this case, OP certainly thought this through or has a good (for him, not necessarily the customer Tongue

) refund policy.
Trust me though, there are so many dumb store owners out there but those won‘t be the early adopters anyways.

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I like OP’s advice and that i also believe that its acceptance of bitcoin will make its payment system much faster and every one merchants are going to be ready to transact in their stores through bitcoin it's not a matter of curiosity because the demand for bitcoin will increase. Easy to dig and shopkeepers are accepting bitcoin as money rather than fiat because the days pass, cryptocurrency begins to return into the mainstream many companies round the world are using cryptocurrency as a way of monetary transactions. The market value of cryptocurrency is additionally rising now.

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I also believe OP’s decision will also be “the cause” for other people around his place to become more curious about what “this Bitcoin” is and research about it on their own. Many of them will join with greed in mind, but the others will stay for the movement. Cool

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Wow! You've done a great job, OP! Congratulations!

I've always believed that the strongest catalyst for Bitcoin adoption as a currency is for small and medium businesses like yours to start accepting it as payment. There've always been talks that Bitcoin is money, that Bitcoin is designed to be spent, more than anything else. However, how could it be done when not a single store in one's locality is accepting it? Now, you're actually making it happen!

I'm curious, though. Did you already have customers who paid in Bitcoin? Is Bitcoin acceptable in your country? Or do you still register everything in fiat in your books?

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Quote from: sam00 on September 23, 2021, 06:48:15 AM

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Quote from: sam00 on September 23, 2021, 06:04:31 AM

Isn't there room for abusing this ?
Someone could buy something in your store for 100$ worth of bitcoin. Now Bitcoin prices drop and he asks for a refund for 100$. Now he can just buy back more bitcoin essentially. If the price of bitcoin rises however, he could ask for the bitcoins back and buy the items with fiat currency and sell the profit in bitcoin he made.

I'm pretty sure you need a proper reason to ask for a refund, and tbh, refunding for the sake of profiting doesn't seem to work as one ngl. And I'd assume OP's store would just return the fiat value back, whether Bitcoin increases or decreases since there should already be a plan for the stored BTC. Either putting a part of it as BTC to let it grow and converting the rest as profit, or just letting it all grow as BTC. I'd say it would depend on the number of transactions done on fiat and done on Bitcoin before OP decides on what to do.

Where I live (In Germany), you can basically return anything you bought within a few weeks in most stores.
If you damaged something or already used it up, that obviously doesn't apply but for tech stuff you just keep the receipt and return the product if you don't like it.
In this scenario, I could definitely buy something with bitcoin and profit from refund it

It's like shorting/selling bitcoin to fiat and if the price goes up, you just reverse it

He should really be wise with this scenario or else it would really be gotten abused but as a business owner then you arent that dumb on not to differentiate on what items need to be returned or not.

You arent dumb on giving out or grant those request and this is why you should really be that observant and be wise even with this business specially you are accepting crypto payments.
It could always have its pro's and cons but well it will vary on how you do handle it though.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on September 23, 2021, 04:45:04 AM

Op, it looks very nice! People can pay with Bitcoin and even use the Lightning network, that seems like enough options for now. If people need something else, they'll probably request it. Oh, perhaps you can make it easier by making a QR code or something and printing it out with a text message like: "Do you want to pay with cryptos but can't find an option you like? Share your thoughts and help us become better!".

Thank you. That's a interesting one I like it.

Quote from: kryptqnick on September 23, 2021, 04:45:04 AM

if a person pays with Bitcoin but not via the LN, does the person have to wait in the store for about 10 minutes for one confirmation

Yes the customer will wait until his transaction is unconfirmed. It is the same process with bank transfers, 5-10 minutes won't hurt.

Quote from: sam00 on September 23, 2021, 06:48:15 AM

In this scenario, I could definitely buy something with bitcoin and profit from refund it

It's like shorting/selling bitcoin to fiat and if the price goes up, you just reverse it

I have a different business policy. We issue a one year warranty for gadgets. If there is a technical problem with your new device within the one year duration, the company fixes the device for you free of charge or replaces the device if need be. You have to prove the problem with the device was not caused by you. There is a strict no refund policy.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 23, 2021, 03:26:24 AM

Pretty awesome, this will be an addition to the other businesses that are now accepting bitcoin in their respective shops, hopefully someone creates a thread that curates all those threads about the businesses that have accepted cryptocurrency as a payment.

I know two users on the forum who accept bitcoin payment in their business. It will be encouraging to see more similar threads

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on September 23, 2021, 04:27:01 AM

This is really an amazing initiative. Everyone is likely appreciated a post like this, and this kind of post is what were looking for, adoption of btc on its own way. I like OP points, when he mentioned his topic and to tell the truth, only few got the balls to post something useful which is quite amazing cause this one is a real life adoption of btc and expansion to more people not only the knowledge and method. This will help spread awareness on how to use btc in easist way in real world.

Thank you very much. I just started and haven't had any customer paying in Bitcoin yet. Its too early to judge if the idea is well received by customers. I just have to do more to publicity. More colors and bulletin board like @Lucius suggested is noted. I hope to catch the eye of people interested in cryptocurrency

My topic was moved from Bitcoin discussion. Any idea why?

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