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Topic: My Justification | Against Royse's allegations me being SmokerFace (Read 263 times)

legendary
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Please tell me honestly, do you believe Royse honestly didn't rig Spiroll's contest?, they awarded the prize money to the alt of the casino whose casino they were managing

Since you asked politely, no, I don't. Looks like he was just performing a task delegated to him by the Spiroll account.

I sent @Royse777 to distribute the reward amount.
The reward is in my possession so nobody needs to worry about the reward. After the draw, the winner will receive $50 worth of btc.

In the 2nd contest - the one that led to the downfall of Spiroll - the winner was never credited with their winnings.

These contests are over 2 years old and had only a handful of participants. Reviewing the contest in question, you would have lost to a different entrant anyway.

Looks like you started beef with Royse777 apropos of nothing here, which led to him creating this thread, which then led to you creating multiple threads about him.
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JollyGood acting like an ascetic here as if he never tagged people for this kind of offence. As if he need more evidence to tag worldofcoins. But the reality is, worldofcoins thought to become a servant of JollyGood after getting tagged on his SmokerFace account, so JollyGood never doubt him.

Interesting!

You should be given Sherlock of the Year award, btw say that with your "Learn Bitcoin" account, you used to tag me.

Do you think you will ever get a chance to deal with them?

I don't bother wasting time on a few spread sheet managing gang, who use morals as a tool to show themselves good and use that to gain connections, for financial benefits.
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I can't stop laughing seeing how Worldofcoins trying to prove him innocent after JollyGood's post. Helpless!

JollyGood acting like an ascetic here as if he never tagged people for this kind of offence. As if he need more evidence to tag worldofcoins. But the reality is, worldofcoins thought to become a servant of JollyGood after getting tagged on his SmokerFace account, so JollyGood never doubt him.

Interesting!

I don't see myself dealing with Royse, Little Mouse, or their group in the future. (If someone is interested in taking over the investigation I started, then they're welcome to take the material I've provided. and reasons me believing it to be the case)

Do you think you will ever get a chance to deal with them?
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There's too many other coincidences for me to believe you're not the same person as SmokerFace: the use of the same nicknames, the shared obsession with attacking the reputation of certain campaign managers, and last but not least the other blockchain connections that have been mentioned in other threads.

When you deal with someone through DMs you normally exchange texts, try to view their viewpoints, and a lot more. (And yes, i could be smokerface too, there's no possibility denying that too).


Also like SmokerFace, the evidence that you used for these accusations was very weak. I don't really know what you were thinking.

Please tell me honestly, do you believe Royse honestly didn't rig Spiroll's contest?, they awarded the prize money to the alt of the casino whose casino they were managing - The alt account didn't win the contest, but the prize amount was awarded, and the winner complained about it (Nothing happened, Royse didn't even took responsibility of it) (Did SmokerFace provide this evidence too, or took part in that contest like me?)

Even if you and I overlook these past allegations against royse, I am sure they will get themselves into the trouble, the way they're operating.

I don't see myself dealing with Royse, Little Mouse, or their group in the future. (If someone is interested in taking over the investigation I started, then they're welcome to take the material I've provided. and reasons me believing it to be the case)

Update: Feedback revised.

That's all I have to say.
legendary
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There's too many other coincidences for me to believe you're not the same person as SmokerFace: the use of the same nicknames, the shared obsession with attacking the reputation of certain campaign managers, and last but not least the other blockchain connections that have been mentioned in other threads.

Was I supposed to "keep my head down" like you stated? If that's what you mean you would've done that in my every beef against royse, or anyone you preferred (under the guise of guiding me, using smokerface incident), then would I be focusing on the beef, or consider the safety, and rep. of my account?, Because i will have to keep the possibility of you keep brining this incident every now and the?

Yeah, absolutely, that's obviously what you should have done, instead of attacking not just campaign managers but DT members with unfounded accusations. If you were a newb account and you repeatedly made the same baseless accusations, harassing DT over stuff out of their control, then you could have been tagged for that on its own.

Also like SmokerFace, the evidence that you used for these accusations was very weak. I don't really know what you were thinking.
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bc1qvx09jg7glgx68xlckwt5n5a5q69sw45txngew4  ->  3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68
bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9  ->  3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/415821a8f7f96777fa7149dcda6ede1eb79bf3d77417ae16ed240cf8a265cc0d
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/300427cd5ae0c739f6c295f8ee84e0fd85b30814e0eaf93f78e317671b529771

Good catch. Except its worth pointing out that both addresses sent the funds to a "hop" address before the exchange address to break the connection. So it looks like this:

bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9 -> bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9 -> 3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68

bc1qvx09jg7glgx68xlckwt5n5a5q69sw45txngew4 -> bc1qc240qa82qergkzzwpasg8ehp0clzt6gkzznwhc -> 3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68

As all 4 transactions were confirmed in the same block, little doubt remains that both these accounts are controlled by the same person. Especially when taken into consideration the other transactions connecting these accounts.

Yes, that last address, either belongs to my exchange, p2p trader, or gambling website (I don't have access to that wallet info anymore, given the amount of time elapsed)

This is how, I trade off-forum:
I've exchanged multiple times and gambled money in different casinos depending on the speed of the network (Now I mostly prefer BNB trades and loans, and yes, I take loans off-forum, even now).
So yes, there is quick transaction time between trades when trades occur through DM, within seconds to minutes.
People are active; you don't have to wait hours like on the forum for someone to read your post, look at your profile, and then provide a loan or trade; it's very quick. BTC isn't the only currency I trade with, and SF isn't the only person I've traded with.

"bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9", and "bc1qc240qa82qergkzzwpasg8ehp0clzt6gkzznwhc" (Also belong to me most likely).
The later address "3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68" (I don't know of which site is, but it most likely belong to account, or someone other than SF I traded with or had a deal with, I deal with a lot of people so I don't know who that might be, I could've provided logs if the person if from a p2p exchange, or a trade through dm but it would consume unnecessary time, and cannot guarantee I will find that person).

The transactions made to "3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68", from both addresses above, are through unconfirmed inputs from  addresses of same wallet (most likely) (I could've preferred to wait, and send them separately) or I could've given sf that direct address "3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68" to send the funds to, but I wanted to do it through my address (considering there, if any verification takes place, for the trade I did with 'h68' address, I can cite my owned address which send funds to it, I do it mostly with everyone, I trade occasionally.


Whatever you are accusing Royse777 of doesn't change the fact that you're the alt of a more-or-less scumbag account. Also, I would have done the same regardless of what campaign I'm currently involved in, given our history.

It looks that way, no doubt, considering you gave me/our a second chance in the past. Did you see my scumbag activity on my/our account (worldofcoins) post that event?, But once my beef with Royse started, which he began when I was hired, you too understand that, but why did you have to support him? The person locked his thread on me (showing only his viewpoint); I made a self-moderated thread, and you were allowed to post there, there were others whose posts i didn't delete, but the discussion in other thread revolved around users "Tiger ifst", and his + lm's campaign participants, the picture it painted was clear.
The person kept attacking me after he made that thread on me.

Was I supposed to "keep my head down" like you stated? If that's what you mean you would've done that in my every beef against royse, or anyone you preferred (under the guise of guiding me, using smokerface incident), then would I be focusing on the beef, or consider the safety, and rep. of my account?, Because i will have to keep the possibility of you keep brining this incident every now and the?


I posted this in the other thread then thought it was better placed here instead.

A validation or reference for nutildah is not required as his record in this forum speaks for itself but after seeing recent comments made against him I wanted to make a post. Please note, he does not hand out negative tags on a whim even though he has been a member of the community for a very long time. Also, from an earlier post it seems he did advise you some time ago yet you disregarded his advice even though he probably had collated information that suggested/pointed you had other accounts yet never published it.

I realized the part about nutildah not having any ill-intention towards me. (They were right about some part, but for the others about making a rule for not allowing others to defend royse, but wouldn't it make sense If my allegations are against someone they should be the one clearing those not someone baby sit them through the process?), I will revise the feedback I granted them.


I do not believe he would write to managers asking them to add/remove participants therefore I would advise you to remove the negative tag you gave him because it is completely unwarranted.

I did not mean they directly contacted the manager (but the tag they gave me would be seen and would impact my stay)


Having said that, you have exerted a lot of energy trying to connect various accounts that could be up to no good and I know that can be frustrating when solid evidence is difficult to find. For example, various names have been mentioned in PMs between certain members regarding who is (or probably is) an alt-account or part of an account farming ring but even though some us know who they are, their names have not been made public because the evidence thus far is not strong enough.

Yes, it's plausible that most will not find this evidence compelling, but when invention through government, and private agencies take place, then they don't rely only on transaction details, they consider many other factors (for apparent reasons we cannot perform here on the forum), though irl people will most likely won't get away after pulling these stunts.



Btw this username, you chose to create a new account, Golden Hamster (Mammal) -> Was it intentional after going through my mammal theory of "Little Mouse", "Hedgehog", or "Small Rabbit"?

Not just mammals, specific types of mammals; rodents.

Obviously someone is trolling you.

Seems that way.



I believe I have cleared everything regarding my connection with Smokerface (let me know if anything is left), so everyone who tagged me for it should consider it and revise the tag they've granted me.
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Btw this username, you chose to create a new account, Golden Hamster (Mammal) -> Was it intentional after going through my mammal theory of "Little Mouse", "Hedgehog", or "Small Rabbit"?

Not just mammals, specific types of mammals; rodents.

Obviously someone is trolling you.
legendary
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I posted this in the other thread then thought it was better placed here instead.

A validation or reference for nutildah is not required as his record in this forum speaks for itself but after seeing recent comments made against him I wanted to make a post. Please note, he does not hand out negative tags on a whim even though he has been a member of the community for a very long time. Also, from an earlier post it seems he did advise you some time ago yet you disregarded his advice even though he probably had collated information that suggested/pointed you had other accounts yet never published it.

Clearly you came to the wrong conclusion about him because the idea that he would blindly support a campaign manager for any reason including for being allowed to join a campaign is not only ludicrous but somewhat insulting. I do not believe he would write to managers asking them to add/remove participants therefore I would advise you to remove the negative tag you gave him because it is completely unwarranted.

As far as the issue on hand is concerned, I see it in two ways. The first is what you are mentioning about collusion and collaboration (with negative connotations) mostly between members from a particular local board and a particular campaign manager. The other being your use of accounts. If evidence suggests you have another account including one that has negative tags (including from me) and you wish to contest the claim, you will have to compile a meaning defence for others to read and evaluate it or you can simply accept the tags and move on.

Having said that, you have exerted a lot of energy trying to connect various accounts that could be up to no good and I know that can be frustrating when solid evidence is difficult to find. For example, various names have been mentioned in PMs between certain members regarding who is (or probably is) an alt-account or part of an account farming ring but even though some us know who they are, their names have not been made public because the evidence thus far is not strong enough.

It is possible you got frustrated and openly mentioned a number of members that might or might not be connected in a negative manner without compelling evidence (though there might be circumstantial), when maybe being patient until you collated something substantial could have been the appropriate step. I am aware part of the problem is that they are getting better at leaving less trails behind therefore it does not help when you want to present a case but lashing out in either anger or frustration will not help and only brings more attention to yourself. Maybe that was what nutildah advised you about in the past in the spirit of second chances.

This is not self-moderated, so everyone can post.
legendary
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2021-07-14 16:56:18

Txid: b83811b8bbcd70dc8347b836ee6c3d309f09c52f84804484598f1ee3dcec9874  [payment from 1xbit]

2021-07-15 04:31:08

bc1qvx09jg7glgx68xlckwt5n5a5q69sw45txngew4  ->  3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68
bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9  ->  3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/415821a8f7f96777fa7149dcda6ede1eb79bf3d77417ae16ed240cf8a265cc0d
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/300427cd5ae0c739f6c295f8ee84e0fd85b30814e0eaf93f78e317671b529771

Good catch. Except its worth pointing out that both addresses sent the funds to a "hop" address before the exchange address to break the connection. So it looks like this:

bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9 -> bc1qcvdfnn0c06dewqtexjlev9z4nspwku5kat4wd9 -> 3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68

bc1qvx09jg7glgx68xlckwt5n5a5q69sw45txngew4 -> bc1qc240qa82qergkzzwpasg8ehp0clzt6gkzznwhc -> 3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68

As all 4 transactions were confirmed in the same block, little doubt remains that both these accounts are controlled by the same person. Especially when taken into consideration the other transactions connecting these accounts.



Whatever you are accusing Royse777 of doesn't change the fact that you're the alt of a more-or-less scumbag account. Also, I would have done the same regardless of what campaign I'm currently involved in, given our history.
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What are the chances worldofcoins = CryptoGoonie?

Oddly specific recommendation:

Hello everyone the campaign has been paused until further notice and will be managed by worldofcoins in case it resume.

Spreadsheet and payment for last 3 weeks [Week 6, 7 and 8] will be processed within a few days.

You are free to remove your signatures if you want.

Why would I be mentioning my name knowing full well, i will -ve tagged if i manage it?

Btw this username, you chose to create a new account, Golden Hamster (Mammal) -> Was it intentional after going through my mammal theory of "Little Mouse", "Hedgehog", or "Small Rabbit"?
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What are the chances worldofcoins = CryptoGoonie?

Oddly specific recommendation:

Hello everyone the campaign has been paused until further notice and will be managed by worldofcoins in case it resume.

Spreadsheet and payment for last 3 weeks [Week 6, 7 and 8] will be processed within a few days.

You are free to remove your signatures if you want.
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@Hixxkaxx, thank you for the message.

Post made by cryptogoonie (1xbit manager): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5527021

Later on, deleted (Archive): https://ninjastic.space/post/64979026
Royse mentioned a reply to "Tiger Fist" (Good to note)
In another quote, reply to "Don Pedro Dinero" (He distrusted me too, I am certain now more members will connect the dots and see what's going on.)

The post was later deleted, but it proves one thing: "Don Pedro Dinero" was ignorant about Royse's true nature, and so was Nutildah (most likely).

Good to note.

I am certain now more members will connect the dots, I wish I could mention the name but since he sent it in private,



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2021-07-15 04:31:08

bc1qvx09jg7glgx68xlckwt5n5a5q69sw45txngew4  ->  3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68
bc1qjrjvr3a20rhf7vqdr2rvcexx28j3d8e7plyje9  ->  3EUhPUmdDcck8MeGSoBoPzRVSjDAZVdh68


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https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/300427cd5ae0c739f6c295f8ee84e0fd85b30814e0eaf93f78e317671b529771


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User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?


I was doing a part-time job to survive and complete my graduation.
Tragically I lost my employment because of the pandemic crisis. I am lucky that I am a part of the bitcoin community and procuring more than the low maintenance occupations.
The majority of my companions begin looking for employment since they couldn't satisfy their obligations and without work, they can not endure.


Deleted and reposted: https://ninjastic.space/post/56188603 [2021-01-26 04:20:41 UTC]
Deleted and reposted: https://ninjastic.space/post/55629018 [2020-11-19 07:45:06 UTC]


Did you actually figure what will occur if each individual quit paying assessments to the government?. Ever think about how our nation create? also, the police who shield us from the crooks are getting paid ?. These all due to our taxes. The government use taxes to build up the nation on the off chance that it gets poor, at that point, you won't ready to live. Banks are exceptionally needed in our life actives if you stopped using the bank then you won't able to pay your bills. I totally disagree with your posts.


Deleted and reposted: https://ninjastic.space/post/56188597 [2021-01-26 04:19:43 UTC]
Deleted and reposted: https://ninjastic.space/post/55611803 [2020-11-17 07:22:36 UTC]



Fiat money is easy to get and more reliable to accessible. You can easily steal fiat than cryptocurrencies.
Blockchain innovation makes their security more intense to break and criminals would prefer not to waste their time by hacking it.
But if the criminals are smart like a scammer ( who may consider as a criminal ) it can easily misdirect people and stealing their coins.


Deleted and reposted: https://ninjastic.space/post/56188567 [2021-01-26 04:13:55 UTC]
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nutildah is a female, not 'he'.

Not that I care about nutildah's gender but I have questioned what you say and I see in this thread that I am not the only one referring to him/her as 'he'.

I speak to him privately in an old boys club, privately, away from this forum.

Glad to hear he is fine.  

I certainly hope he is enjoying life and using the time he spent in this forum better utilised doing other things.

..he did mention once that he has a Filipina girlfriend when he was living in the Philippines.
...
I hope he is fine and will come back soon, as he said on this thread 3 years ago, he is getting fat from drinking a lot of beer and eating a lot of pork here on the Philippines.  

Everyone on 'that' thread is following the gender, OP stated. Did anyone have a chat with their gender?, I am not entirely sure on the gender part, but user is with feminine tone, if they state their gender themselves then good, otherwise lets not take it further than this post.
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nutildah is a female, not 'he'.

Not that I care about nutildah's gender but I have questioned what you say and I see in this thread that I am not the only one referring to him/her as 'he'.

I speak to him privately in an old boys club, privately, away from this forum.

Glad to hear he is fine.  

I certainly hope he is enjoying life and using the time he spent in this forum better utilised doing other things.

..he did mention once that he has a Filipina girlfriend when he was living in the Philippines.
...
I hope he is fine and will come back soon, as he said on this thread 3 years ago, he is getting fat from drinking a lot of beer and eating a lot of pork here on the Philippines.  


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You're making too many threads about this. You should limit your gripes with Royse777 to just one topic.

This thread is for their feedback justification on the front page.; they locked theirs, the other one I made was against their Scam casino 'Bitlucy,' and rigged contest of 'Spiroll and Account Buying Allegations.

I don't know why people who tagged me overlooked what Royse did or if they are scared to take the initiative.
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You're making too many threads about this. You should limit your gripes with Royse777 to just one topic.
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In the case of nutildah I think he has a reputation that he has earned over the years, a reputation in general and for catching cheaters like you. He does not red tag someone lightly.

nutildah is a female, not 'he'.

As far as reputation goes, if I asked my campaign members politely to give me feedback, then I am sure the majority would've done that, but I chose not to.
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Why didn't you answer the point Don Pedro Dinero raised?
You said, you were trading with SmokerFace, but SmokerFace said you both use the same exchange.
But according to the blockchain activity and data, those addresses are inactive and did not made many transactions.
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Come on! Stop being ridiculous

I don't know the other guy but I can assure you that both nutildah and I (I told you in the other thread) if we find out that someone in our campaign is an alt of someone who has 10 red tags we won't hesitate to do the same.

In the case of nutildah I think he has a reputation that he has earned over the years, a reputation in general and for catching cheaters like you. He does not red tag someone lightly.
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