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Topic: My Site (Current Status: UP) - Games, KoL Meat (Read 5342 times)

newbie
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OK then, thanks for the heads-up.
hero member
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Is this service still operating? It looks like no one has posted here in a very long time, but I think I'd be interested, since I play KoL...

In any case, I can't access the site from the first post, so I'm not going to get too hopeful.
It was going up and down for a while, and the last few times I used it I found a bug, which he said was due to KOL changing their interface. It hasn't been up since the last time I tried it and it bugged.

I used it a lot and I too wish it would go back online!
newbie
Activity: 34
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Is this service still operating? It looks like no one has posted here in a very long time, but I think I'd be interested, since I play KoL...

In any case, I can't access the site from the first post, so I'm not going to get too hopeful.
newbie
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Does it happen *every* time?  'Cause the log says it's happening ~30-40% of the time, which is attributable to the price changing slightly between updates.  Doesn't take much fluctuation for a 1% change
hero member
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Whenever I send you the exact amount listed under "Sell Meat for BTC" that should get me one BTC, I actually end up getting .99 BTC. This happens every time, so I don't think it is a matter of other people buying right before me and changing the ratio.
newbie
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I've been forced to use my number 2 source for derp online while your site was down.  It has left me unfulfilled.  Hope you are back up soon.   Smiley
newbie
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The red and green indicates profit for me and you, respectively. 

I'm currently selling meat for somewhat less than it's worth (and kol meat can be tied to dollar value much the same way BTC can, so it's an objective measurement of worth), and want to highlight that to encourage trade.

'Course it's a moot point right now - naturally as soon as I leave town there's a power outage, and I hadn't yet bothered to configure the server to bring itself online automatically, what with the low odds of there being a power outage while I'm away.

It should be back up Monday evening sometime.
hero member
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On the KOL meat exchange page, what are the red and green percentages next to the prices?
newbie
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I'm not; before I evaluate a game I kick out anyone without enough credit to play.
legendary
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Strength in numbers
I notice it doesn't take the .1BTC until the game is played. Are you making sure there is enough BTC in the account for all the queued games?
newbie
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Could you make it tell you how many you have in the queue?

A "toggle all" button would be good. I think there is a bias toward not claiming a lot of squares because it's more work.


Done and done.  Draws btw give you your money back, minus the usual 10%.

Since I don't have anything pressing to implement tonight, I thought I'd take a step back and reassess my goals.  What do you want to see added?  

Additional currency exchanges - EVE isk, TF2 items, other (specify)?  

More arcade style games - quick, cheap plays?

Intricate and/or long term games - MMOs, sims and such?  Since I don't have any examples yet, one game I've been mulling is a casino management sim (in keeping with the theme of most bitcoin endeavors).  You'd take out a loan from a seedy shark for collateral - credit - then build a casino and attract customers to pay it back.  Pay back the loan, get back all your credit.  Fail to stay in the black and mobsters break you fuckin kneecaps and I keep the credit.

Or maybe some kinda community thing?  4chan style image board which prevents spam with a very small charge per post (~0.01 BTC) instead of captcha?

By the way, since I've had it up for a few days without losing everything due to a glitch, I decided to add in the rest of my KoL meat.  Meat is selling for 2.5x its value right now, the equivalent of buying bitcoins for $0.03 each.  It will never be this cheap again, and the best profits will go to the first person to claim them.

[EDIT] One thing though - since the gradient in this case is very large, the meat price will fall faster than normal, so orders greater than 3 or 4 btc might see significant changes in price.  Also, whoever just reloaded the page about a dozen times: prices update every six minutes, which is as fast as I can login to kol to check messages.  I need to add that to the page.

[edit][edit] Ah shit, kol maintenance is in 10 minutes.  Might want to wait until afterward so things don't get snarled up.  I'm not expecting any problems (trades should be queued while kol is down), but it couldn't hurt to be safe.
legendary
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Strength in numbers
Hrm.  I took you up on that and it gave us BOTH a win.  Checking for bugs now.

[Edit] Nevermind, it wasn't a bug.  We tied, so technically we did both win.  It shouldn't count for e-penis bragging rights though, so I'll fix it to not affect the scoreboard.

[Edit][Edit] 'kay, if the game's a total draw it won't count anymore.

By the way, if you have plays queued you aren't charged for them until someone else joins and the game is computed.  And, when I restart the server it wipes the queue.  I don't wanna make some major change to the rules or how much I charge and leave someone feeling gypped because their queued plays turned out to be a huge waste.  Is that an acceptable convenience-security tradeoff?

So no fee for draws either? ;-)

I think it's an acceptable risk, I'm not going to do 50 or anything. Could you make it tell you how many you have in the queue?

A "toggle all" button would be good. I think there is a bias toward not claiming a lot of squares because it's more work.
newbie
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Hrm.  I took you up on that and it gave us BOTH a win.  Checking for bugs now.

[Edit] Nevermind, it wasn't a bug.  We tied, so technically we did both win.  It shouldn't count for e-penis bragging rights though, so I'll fix it to not affect the scoreboard.

[Edit][Edit] 'kay, if the game's a total draw it won't count anymore.

By the way, if you have plays queued you aren't charged for them until someone else joins and the game is computed.  And, when I restart the server it wipes the queue.  I don't wanna make some major change to the rules or how much I charge and leave someone feeling gypped because their queued plays turned out to be a huge waste.  Is that an acceptable convenience-security tradeoff?
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
Nice, I've got 3 queued up. Good luck, suckers.
newbie
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Alright, scoreboard is in!  Right now the only people on it are my two testing addresses, so they should be easy to top.
newbie
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Mkay, it's up and it looks like it's working.  You can queue plays now, and results are easier to interpret.

Do ya'll think I ought to bump the ante up to 1 BTC?  The multiple price levels is a good idea, but not when there's just a couple of people playing.

I'm gonna take an hour break to kill shit online, then we'll see about adding a highscore board.
newbie
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Wow, thanks for the quick feedback.  These are pretty much all good ideas, I'll try to implement some of them tonight. 

As far as the smoother and more intelligent web coding goes, the extent of my skills runs currently to the late nineties.  You're lucky the whole thing isn't a thirty page description of my cats, with a static background image that clashes with the text contrast and a midi of Queensryche's "Silent Lucidity" playing on a loop.

Re: the hangups, could be one of three things: Cherrypy is occasionally telling me it ran across some sort of error with static files, my vnc viewer into my server is set to "bandwidth hog," and I had bittorrent open.  The latter two should be fixed, so let me know if it continues to happen.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
Oh, sometimes I'm getting redirected to a totally white screen.

I haven't encountered that yet.

I do notice that sometimes the reload hangs.

Yes, that's when it happens.

There must be an easier way than constant reloading, can't a website "watch" for something to happen?
legendary
Activity: 1658
Merit: 1001
Oh, sometimes I'm getting redirected to a totally white screen.

I haven't encountered that yet.

I do notice that sometimes the reload hangs.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
Very cool idea.

Once you get all the kinks worked out you should have a micro stake and a more meaningful stake and maybe eventually a large stake. I think the board size is fine.

As was said you should keep the results viewable, maybe even save them for a while.  Maybe you could let people que up plays? Like instead of just telling me I've already entered the round, let me do another and it will automatically get played in the next game, so that I can do 5 now and if someone comes on in a few hours they can do multiples instead of just one and having to wait again. You would need to add a results page or something so I can see how everything worked out I guess.

Oh, sometimes I'm getting redirected to a totally white screen.
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