Topic: my story: why bitcoin has failed (and keeps failing to this day) (Read 443 times)
My story with trading and investing with bitcoin faced with profit and lost, many time I have sell my assets with lower price after buying with higher price but I never give up to get much profit again with other chance, but today bitcoin and market looks not good for investing because always have bad thing with lower price and not good moment to invest right now.
December 09, 2019, 07:08:49 AM
I'm about to go to bed so I can't look at responses right away but dealing with this has caused my family to become separated, my hair to fall out and has caused me and I'm sure other traders enormous amounts of stress dealing with someone or something treating bitcoin like it's a game of attention.
I thought I'd share my story and my experience of what I've had to go through dealing with bitcoin since 2013.
I bought bitcoin at near 1000 dollars or something around 2013 and then went to college and it crashed to 300 dollars (wow totally normal for the old market).
I then sold my bitcoin and didn't get any profit and then it proceeded to constantly go up after that. I moved on like a man though because I realized I had things to learn. Later on though I got back into it early in 2017 nearly full time. I began to -try- to learn how to deal with the market instead of acting like it was mortal kombat. Treating the market like a game to fight people is literally a felony if the market isn't working and everyone knows it's wrong to go a certain direction.
Ever since the spike in 2017 to $20,000 things got out of hand though. Since July 2017 (and I've contacted the SEC,CTFC, and attorneys over this) bitcoin has been getting pushed forcefully to go higher than it needs to faster than it needs to when the market isn't there.
The problem lies in that people don't believe that there is actually a person/trader/ or exchange that was actually capable of doing something like this for this long since it costs millions of dollars per day.
The market got different in 2017 after it got to 3000 and ever since then felonies have been committed nearly every single day to try and force the price upwards whether or not the market is ready. Now we/I/you and the community are seeing the aftermath of the psychopath who thinks it's their job to "punish" people for selling bitcoin and it hasn't stopped since then.
I made over 10,000 dollars doing it right when everyone was ok with the natural market when it went up AND down (without getting harassed) but now it just doesn't work. This isn't bragging, this is just a fact. I learned how to do it right and I did well. (yeah I sold bitcoin sometimes instead of buying it)
EVER SINCE THEN though, it seems like THE ENTIRE internet is trying to FAKE their way into doing what I did.
This has really gotten out of hand and I expect people to do something about this. I shouldn't have to be calling attorneys at my age (but I am).
I thought I'd share my story and my experience of what I've had to go through dealing with bitcoin since 2013.
I bought bitcoin at near 1000 dollars or something around 2013 and then went to college and it crashed to 300 dollars (wow totally normal for the old market).
I then sold my bitcoin and didn't get any profit and then it proceeded to constantly go up after that. I moved on like a man though because I realized I had things to learn. Later on though I got back into it early in 2017 nearly full time. I began to -try- to learn how to deal with the market instead of acting like it was mortal kombat. Treating the market like a game to fight people is literally a felony if the market isn't working and everyone knows it's wrong to go a certain direction.
Ever since the spike in 2017 to $20,000 things got out of hand though. Since July 2017 (and I've contacted the SEC,CTFC, and attorneys over this) bitcoin has been getting pushed forcefully to go higher than it needs to faster than it needs to when the market isn't there.
The problem lies in that people don't believe that there is actually a person/trader/ or exchange that was actually capable of doing something like this for this long since it costs millions of dollars per day.
The market got different in 2017 after it got to 3000 and ever since then felonies have been committed nearly every single day to try and force the price upwards whether or not the market is ready. Now we/I/you and the community are seeing the aftermath of the psychopath who thinks it's their job to "punish" people for selling bitcoin and it hasn't stopped since then.
I made over 10,000 dollars doing it right when everyone was ok with the natural market when it went up AND down (without getting harassed) but now it just doesn't work. This isn't bragging, this is just a fact. I learned how to do it right and I did well. (yeah I sold bitcoin sometimes instead of buying it)
EVER SINCE THEN though, it seems like THE ENTIRE internet is trying to FAKE their way into doing what I did.
This has really gotten out of hand and I expect people to do something about this. I shouldn't have to be calling attorneys at my age (but I am).
Well its a characteristics of cryptocurrency since the beginning that no one is legally accountable for anything, its anonymous, and decentralized so its hard for legislator to get a foot into this, and for many crypto enthusiast its also a good thing even if that mean you can have all kind of moves that would be fraudulent / scam as well. Its also why most banks refrain from putting crypto as regular asset with regulation etc because its nearly impossible to control it, or ban transactions or users from the network if they would break some law or regulation.
Its not a regulated market, maybe with private blockchain where address and keys are attributed to legal entities with consencus based on trust and personal responsability, you can have more regulation using the legal system, but its not how public blockchain works.
December 09, 2019, 05:18:14 AM
Hey, if you want to control what's being post on your thread then you should just use the self moderation.
And so you're not used to criticism. You can say whatever you want as well as the others too.
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Everything will be fine. You're just in denial stage. You'll be okay, soon.
And so you're not used to criticism. You can say whatever you want as well as the others too.
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Everything will be fine. You're just in denial stage. You'll be okay, soon.
December 09, 2019, 04:13:13 AM
Do you have anything to say about bitcoin and the felonies I've mentioned?
i've read every post of yours in the thread and it's not even clear what these "felonies" are---let alone evidence.
The market got different in 2017 after it got to 3000 and ever since then felonies have been committed nearly every single day to try and force the price upwards whether or not the market is ready.
it sounds like you were shorting BTC and got destroyed by the rally q2 this year? that sucks, but it's futile to project blame on others just because you were wrong about the market.
December 09, 2019, 04:02:09 AM
I'm about to go to bed so I can't look at responses right away but dealing with this has caused my family to become separated, my hair to fall out and has caused me and I'm sure other traders enormous amounts of stress dealing with someone or something treating bitcoin like it's a game of attention.
I thought I'd share my story and my experience of what I've had to go through dealing with bitcoin since 2013.
I bought bitcoin at near 1000 dollars or something around 2013 and then went to college and it crashed to 300 dollars (wow totally normal for the old market).
I then sold my bitcoin and didn't get any profit and then it proceeded to constantly go up after that. I moved on like a man though because I realized I had things to learn. Later on though I got back into it early in 2017 nearly full time. I began to -try- to learn how to deal with the market instead of acting like it was mortal kombat. Treating the market like a game to fight people is literally a felony if the market isn't working and everyone knows it's wrong to go a certain direction.
Ever since the spike in 2017 to $20,000 things got out of hand though. Since July 2017 (and I've contacted the SEC,CTFC, and attorneys over this) bitcoin has been getting pushed forcefully to go higher than it needs to faster than it needs to when the market isn't there.
The problem lies in that people don't believe that there is actually a person/trader/ or exchange that was actually capable of doing something like this for this long since it costs millions of dollars per day.
The market got different in 2017 after it got to 3000 and ever since then felonies have been committed nearly every single day to try and force the price upwards whether or not the market is ready. Now we/I/you and the community are seeing the aftermath of the psychopath who thinks it's their job to "punish" people for selling bitcoin and it hasn't stopped since then.
I made over 10,000 dollars doing it right when everyone was ok with the natural market when it went up AND down (without getting harassed) but now it just doesn't work. This isn't bragging, this is just a fact. I learned how to do it right and I did well. (yeah I sold bitcoin sometimes instead of buying it)
EVER SINCE THEN though, it seems like THE ENTIRE internet is trying to FAKE their way into doing what I did.
This has really gotten out of hand and I expect people to do something about this. I shouldn't have to be calling attorneys at my age (but I am).
base on your story you are doing trading in the wrong wayI thought I'd share my story and my experience of what I've had to go through dealing with bitcoin since 2013.
I bought bitcoin at near 1000 dollars or something around 2013 and then went to college and it crashed to 300 dollars (wow totally normal for the old market).
I then sold my bitcoin and didn't get any profit and then it proceeded to constantly go up after that. I moved on like a man though because I realized I had things to learn. Later on though I got back into it early in 2017 nearly full time. I began to -try- to learn how to deal with the market instead of acting like it was mortal kombat. Treating the market like a game to fight people is literally a felony if the market isn't working and everyone knows it's wrong to go a certain direction.
Ever since the spike in 2017 to $20,000 things got out of hand though. Since July 2017 (and I've contacted the SEC,CTFC, and attorneys over this) bitcoin has been getting pushed forcefully to go higher than it needs to faster than it needs to when the market isn't there.
The problem lies in that people don't believe that there is actually a person/trader/ or exchange that was actually capable of doing something like this for this long since it costs millions of dollars per day.
The market got different in 2017 after it got to 3000 and ever since then felonies have been committed nearly every single day to try and force the price upwards whether or not the market is ready. Now we/I/you and the community are seeing the aftermath of the psychopath who thinks it's their job to "punish" people for selling bitcoin and it hasn't stopped since then.
I made over 10,000 dollars doing it right when everyone was ok with the natural market when it went up AND down (without getting harassed) but now it just doesn't work. This isn't bragging, this is just a fact. I learned how to do it right and I did well. (yeah I sold bitcoin sometimes instead of buying it)
EVER SINCE THEN though, it seems like THE ENTIRE internet is trying to FAKE their way into doing what I did.
This has really gotten out of hand and I expect people to do something about this. I shouldn't have to be calling attorneys at my age (but I am).
if you want to earn in trading you need a lot of patience
before im also doing trading but it gives me a lot of stress that why I stop it
base on my experience you need to follow bitcoin daily and read news about it daily
there are really whales who sell and buy to manipulate the price to drop and rise
some of bitcoin news website is being used by them and for you to get some profit you just need to go with the flow
if there is some positive news there is a possibility of a price increase and you just need to wait for some price spike to get some profit
December 08, 2019, 01:00:25 PM
I'm about to go to bed so I can't look at responses right away but dealing with this has caused my family to become separated, my hair to fall out and has caused me and I'm sure other traders enormous amounts of stress dealing with someone or something treating bitcoin like it's a game of attention.
I thought I'd share my story and my experience of what I've had to go through dealing with bitcoin since 2013.
I bought bitcoin at near 1000 dollars or something around 2013 and then went to college and it crashed to 300 dollars (wow totally normal for the old market).
I then sold my bitcoin and didn't get any profit and then it proceeded to constantly go up after that. I moved on like a man though because I realized I had things to learn. Later on though I got back into it early in 2017 nearly full time. I began to -try- to learn how to deal with the market instead of acting like it was mortal kombat. Treating the market like a game to fight people is literally a felony if the market isn't working and everyone knows it's wrong to go a certain direction.
Ever since the spike in 2017 to $20,000 things got out of hand though. Since July 2017 (and I've contacted the SEC,CTFC, and attorneys over this) bitcoin has been getting pushed forcefully to go higher than it needs to faster than it needs to when the market isn't there.
The problem lies in that people don't believe that there is actually a person/trader/ or exchange that was actually capable of doing something like this for this long since it costs millions of dollars per day.
The market got different in 2017 after it got to 3000 and ever since then felonies have been committed nearly every single day to try and force the price upwards whether or not the market is ready. Now we/I/you and the community are seeing the aftermath of the psychopath who thinks it's their job to "punish" people for selling bitcoin and it hasn't stopped since then.
I made over 10,000 dollars doing it right when everyone was ok with the natural market when it went up AND down (without getting harassed) but now it just doesn't work. This isn't bragging, this is just a fact. I learned how to do it right and I did well. (yeah I sold bitcoin sometimes instead of buying it)
EVER SINCE THEN though, it seems like THE ENTIRE internet is trying to FAKE their way into doing what I did.
This has really gotten out of hand and I expect people to do something about this. I shouldn't have to be calling attorneys at my age (but I am).
Comprehending your story is quite difficult to be honest. Nonetheless, one thing remains clear as far as. the price movements of bitching is concerned. The price movement is controlled by market forces. And whales manipulation is part of the forces a day trader, or holder of bitcoin needs to contend with. I thought I'd share my story and my experience of what I've had to go through dealing with bitcoin since 2013.
I bought bitcoin at near 1000 dollars or something around 2013 and then went to college and it crashed to 300 dollars (wow totally normal for the old market).
I then sold my bitcoin and didn't get any profit and then it proceeded to constantly go up after that. I moved on like a man though because I realized I had things to learn. Later on though I got back into it early in 2017 nearly full time. I began to -try- to learn how to deal with the market instead of acting like it was mortal kombat. Treating the market like a game to fight people is literally a felony if the market isn't working and everyone knows it's wrong to go a certain direction.
Ever since the spike in 2017 to $20,000 things got out of hand though. Since July 2017 (and I've contacted the SEC,CTFC, and attorneys over this) bitcoin has been getting pushed forcefully to go higher than it needs to faster than it needs to when the market isn't there.
The problem lies in that people don't believe that there is actually a person/trader/ or exchange that was actually capable of doing something like this for this long since it costs millions of dollars per day.
The market got different in 2017 after it got to 3000 and ever since then felonies have been committed nearly every single day to try and force the price upwards whether or not the market is ready. Now we/I/you and the community are seeing the aftermath of the psychopath who thinks it's their job to "punish" people for selling bitcoin and it hasn't stopped since then.
I made over 10,000 dollars doing it right when everyone was ok with the natural market when it went up AND down (without getting harassed) but now it just doesn't work. This isn't bragging, this is just a fact. I learned how to do it right and I did well. (yeah I sold bitcoin sometimes instead of buying it)
EVER SINCE THEN though, it seems like THE ENTIRE internet is trying to FAKE their way into doing what I did.
This has really gotten out of hand and I expect people to do something about this. I shouldn't have to be calling attorneys at my age (but I am).
December 08, 2019, 12:30:16 PM
I see that investing in bitcoin didn't works good for you before but it doesn't mean that bitcoin has failed. I meant you just took wrong decision to buy your btc when the price is just down! probably you panicked or something because if you just kept them you'll have more than 30x times the amount of dollars that you invested. I think holding bitcoin and waiting is a good strategy tho, you have to believe in bitcoin and just invest for long term period.
December 08, 2019, 12:29:24 PM
This is the THIRD topic by this author on the exact same flawed premise. Here's the first and second topic. The author wants to blame exchanges for the fact that they clearly have a gambling addiction and it's ruining their life.
OP: Seek some help and support. There are organisations who can provide assistance with this.
OP: Seek some help and support. There are organisations who can provide assistance with this.
December 08, 2019, 12:22:02 PM
Dude what in the !@$%? Does anyone here have any idea what this person is rambling on about?
"Treating the market like a game to fight people is literally a felony" What???
"I've contacted the SEC,CTFC, and attorneys over this" You contacted these people because bitcoin jumped to 20k??
"aftermath of the psychopath who thinks it's their job to "punish" people for selling bitcoin"
"I shouldn't have to be calling attorneys at my age (but I am)." Wtf kind of shit are you talking?
What is "it" what is this terrible crime you are talking about that you need to contact all these people for? Also buddy if you that young you shouldn't even be here. You clearly need help and need to be in school. You sound like you have been taking drugs and I mean the bad kind that comes off the street. Literally nothing you say makes sense and honestly, it's pretty disturbing. Get some sleep or something and stay of the booze or whatever it is you took before you posted whatever you call this. I am very very curious as to what is going on in your head. Absolutely fascinating. It is like you can create a fantasy world in your own head and then believe in it.
Right.... That's seriously enough internet for me for today. I started off watching cat videos talking to people on youtube and ended up replying to a lunatic on bitcointalk.
"Treating the market like a game to fight people is literally a felony" What???
"I've contacted the SEC,CTFC, and attorneys over this" You contacted these people because bitcoin jumped to 20k??
"aftermath of the psychopath who thinks it's their job to "punish" people for selling bitcoin"
"I shouldn't have to be calling attorneys at my age (but I am)." Wtf kind of shit are you talking?
What is "it" what is this terrible crime you are talking about that you need to contact all these people for? Also buddy if you that young you shouldn't even be here. You clearly need help and need to be in school. You sound like you have been taking drugs and I mean the bad kind that comes off the street. Literally nothing you say makes sense and honestly, it's pretty disturbing. Get some sleep or something and stay of the booze or whatever it is you took before you posted whatever you call this. I am very very curious as to what is going on in your head. Absolutely fascinating. It is like you can create a fantasy world in your own head and then believe in it.
Right.... That's seriously enough internet for me for today. I started off watching cat videos talking to people on youtube and ended up replying to a lunatic on bitcointalk.
December 08, 2019, 06:31:20 AM
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say, but I'm sure bitcoin hasn't failed.....and I don't think it will. Any investment must be held for a long time if you expect to see some success.
December 08, 2019, 04:21:37 AM
interesting enough to read your story. but in my opinion nothing is failing here, it's just that you are too quick in making decisions and conclusions. because bitcoin is a long term, not only do you know about failure, there is still a future .. !!
Exactly, this is because the mindset of almost all people wanted to become rich in less than a year or so, they wanted to be like the pizza boy who becomes instant millionaire wishing and hoping they could be the same. Let's all understand that we are all hoping for that one day, but the situation today is not like yesterday as there's a lot of coins now to choose from so people really becoming wise when choosing the right one.
December 07, 2019, 06:45:27 PM
We would still think you're a fruit regardless of whois son you are... no one cares what daddy did!
There you go speaking for the entire community. I have now reported every user on the front page of this post for not taking this seriously and instead taking this as an opportunity to slander my opinion and experience.
Yes you're right it doesn't matter what daddy did but his son has almost as much experience as daddy.
Even if I was his son you don't need to be acting like that. Especially when you speak as is "we" is a collective group that I'm "not allowed" to be apart of judging from your diction.
We... like everyone on my end of the computer.
Moron.
But goDaddy isn't the only whois.
Lol, you can tell what I've been doing today
haha December 07, 2019, 06:12:21 PM
We would still think you're a fruit regardless of whois son you are... no one cares what daddy did!
There you go speaking for the entire community. I have now reported every user on the front page of this post for not taking this seriously and instead taking this as an opportunity to slander my opinion and experience.
Yes you're right it doesn't matter what daddy did but his son has almost as much experience as daddy.
Even if I was his son you don't need to be acting like that. Especially when you speak as is "we" is a collective group that I'm "not allowed" to be apart of judging from your diction.
We... like everyone on my end of the computer.
Moron.
But goDaddy isn't the only whois.
December 07, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
We would still think you're a fruit regardless of whois son you are... no one cares what daddy did!
There you go speaking for the entire community. I have now reported every user on the front page of this post for not taking this seriously and instead taking this as an opportunity to slander my opinion and experience.
Yes you're right it doesn't matter what daddy did but his son has almost as much experience as daddy.
Even if I was his son you don't need to be acting like that. Especially when you speak as is "we" is a collective group that I'm "not allowed" to be apart of judging from your diction.
We... like everyone on my end of the computer.
Moron.
December 07, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
interesting enough to read your story. but in my opinion nothing is failing here, it's just that you are too quick in making decisions and conclusions. because bitcoin is a long term, not only do you know about failure, there is still a future .. !!
December 07, 2019, 05:38:29 PM
There is only one reason why bitcoin has failed (and keeps failing to this day). You didn't get in early enough.
December 07, 2019, 03:28:03 PM
Um, yes they will. There are admins for a reason.
For a reason! Just not the reason you think. Admins aren't here to make sure you are safe to say whatever you like and when somebody answers in a tone you don't like his post gets deleted.
If you want to know why others are saying you're acting in a childish way this is the reason!
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Do you have anything to say about bitcoin and the felonies I've mentioned? obviously not unless you make another post. I had to report you to the admins as well because you are not adding anything else other than assumptions and insults towards me. This does not have anything to do with the topic I have posted to be quite honest.
Where did I insult you in my post above?
Does that mean every post in the thread has to relate to the first one or it gets deleted? This whole topic will get deleted sooner than moderators begin to remove our posts because there's something about you in them that you don't like.
My post was an answer to your previous post about complaining to the mods.
Are you now going to tell us what we should talk about in our posts? Should have started a self moderated thread!
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It is evident that there is a problem with many people's words here.
You have a problem not them.
This line...is where you went wrong. "How are you going to survive in the real world? Are you going to call the police every time somebody calls you out?"
Do you want to explain yourself for acting like I'm twelve?
December 07, 2019, 02:57:23 PM
Um, yes they will. There are admins for a reason.
For a reason! Just not the reason you think. Admins aren't here to make sure you are safe to say whatever you like and when somebody answers in a tone you don't like his post gets deleted.
If you want to know why others are saying you're acting in a childish way this is the reason!
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Do you have anything to say about bitcoin and the felonies I've mentioned? obviously not unless you make another post. I had to report you to the admins as well because you are not adding anything else other than assumptions and insults towards me. This does not have anything to do with the topic I have posted to be quite honest.
Where did I insult you in my post above?
Does that mean every post in the thread has to relate to the first one or it gets deleted? This whole topic will get deleted sooner than moderators begin to remove our posts because there's something about you in them that you don't like.
My post was an answer to your previous post about complaining to the mods.
Are you now going to tell us what we should talk about in our posts? Should have started a self moderated thread!
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It is evident that there is a problem with many people's words here.
You have a problem not them.
December 07, 2019, 02:45:31 PM
On a side note. I'm going to have to inform everyone. Whoever replied to me on the first page with vulgar harassment and negativity acting like I was butthurt or just don't know anything is getting reported to the admins. You people really need to reconsider how you treat people on the internet. I'm not putting up with this.
Admins aren't going to save you from the community.
It's pretty straightforward in here. You express opinions and you get all kinds of answers. Some people will like what you're saying others will not. Asking admins to help you because they called you inexperienced or emotional won't make it all go away!
How are you going to survive in the real world? Are you going to call the police every time somebody calls you out?
Um, yes they will. There are admins for a reason. If you and other posters continue to act like I'm ignorant and twelve this will keep happening. I don't see how your post is on topic. You are also falling under the assumption that this is "your time" to be rude to me.
Do you have anything to say about bitcoin and the felonies I've mentioned? obviously not unless you make another post. I had to report you to the admins as well because you are not adding anything else other than assumptions and insults towards me. This does not have anything to do with the topic I have posted to be quite honest.
It is evident that there is a problem with many people's words here.
December 07, 2019, 02:37:52 PM
On a side note. I'm going to have to inform everyone. Whoever replied to me on the first page with vulgar harassment and negativity acting like I was butthurt or just don't know anything is getting reported to the admins. You people really need to reconsider how you treat people on the internet. I'm not putting up with this.
Admins aren't going to save you from the community.
It's pretty straightforward in here. You express opinions and you get all kinds of answers. Some people will like what you're saying others will not. Asking admins to help you because they called you inexperienced or emotional won't make it all go away!
How are you going to survive in the real world? Are you going to call the police every time somebody calls you out?
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