Topic: My thoughts about Primedice (Read 332 times)
For now I think I would only ask you upload a proof of your claims so we all would acertain that your accusations are true. But did you take your time to review the terms and conditions before signing up and while the made changes to their terms and conditions did you also review it before accepting to continue with your account. Terms and conditions are actually the legal back up of all operating websites and for you to get full satisfaction you have to review them so that if it doesn't match up with your expectations you move ahead to a different site that would likely provide you with the necessary criteria you are looking for.
With the usual complain, yeah, most of those are complaining when they lose.
But if it's for me, I wouldn't complain when I lose because in the first place I knew that this is a gambling place. You lose and you win. You're aware of those two possibilities and that's how gambling life is and this isn't just with them but for every casino and must be remembered by every gambler.
While this is the correct stance we must acknowledge that not everyone has that healthy attitude, there are many gamblers out there that want to win no matter what and as soon as they lose some money they claim that they were scammed when it is clear that is not the case, people should just accept the nature of the games, the results are random and the casino has given itself an edge over you, if you cannot accept those conditions then it is better to stay away from gambling. But if it's for me, I wouldn't complain when I lose because in the first place I knew that this is a gambling place. You lose and you win. You're aware of those two possibilities and that's how gambling life is and this isn't just with them but for every casino and must be remembered by every gambler.
In some sense, I do agree that primedice and stake are being remodelled for high-rollers with the changes they are making. I will make a few points to explain what I mean.
1- Platinum 2 for VIP host: I don't care whether I get a host or not but raising the bar for the personal host just shows they are now inclined towards the high rollers.
2- Races with best rewards on top: I know it is important to reward players at the top but the prize distribution is massively in favor of top-5 or so spots.
There are other things like muting some players for minor mistakes as I was reading recently in the stake thread. I mean players will have bad days and will make angry comments and you cannot expect them to be robots. Earlier I see players were given more freedom but now they even removed personal messages so basically the personal interaction and connection between players is lost.
I'm neither complaining nor supporting what op has said, I am just sharing what I feel has changed for a while now. All that said stake is still one of the best out there but there are areas they can improve.
1- Platinum 2 for VIP host: I don't care whether I get a host or not but raising the bar for the personal host just shows they are now inclined towards the high rollers.
2- Races with best rewards on top: I know it is important to reward players at the top but the prize distribution is massively in favor of top-5 or so spots.
There are other things like muting some players for minor mistakes as I was reading recently in the stake thread. I mean players will have bad days and will make angry comments and you cannot expect them to be robots. Earlier I see players were given more freedom but now they even removed personal messages so basically the personal interaction and connection between players is lost.
I'm neither complaining nor supporting what op has said, I am just sharing what I feel has changed for a while now. All that said stake is still one of the best out there but there are areas they can improve.
With the usual complain, yeah, most of those are complaining when they lose.
But if it's for me, I wouldn't complain when I lose because in the first place I knew that this is a gambling place. You lose and you win. You're aware of those two possibilities and that's how gambling life is and this isn't just with them but for every casino and must be remembered by every gambler.
But if it's for me, I wouldn't complain when I lose because in the first place I knew that this is a gambling place. You lose and you win. You're aware of those two possibilities and that's how gambling life is and this isn't just with them but for every casino and must be remembered by every gambler.
OP, welcome to the world of gambling where losing much is expected instead of winning.
Reading your story, you think everything should go according to your own way which is not.
Thats what I also think, he might not know the risk if you gamble your money.Reading your story, you think everything should go according to your own way which is not.
Well if you dont like primedice dont stick to it, there are many existing casinos that might suits you.
There are other gamblers who wonder why they can win in one site and cannot in another and they easily suspect there must be something wrong. To be honest, I also have similar experiences but I am not blaming the casinos or sites. It is purely coincidence. If both sites are well trusted and are provably fair, there is really no basis to be afraid that one is cheating you. And you are right, we are not forced to stick to one site only.
Don't question the provably fair, it was fair. Popular gambling sites are not doing some tricks here to cheat their players. One mistake will ruin their reputation so it's impossible for them to do that thing.
It depends if the gambling site is scam and just wanted to take advantage their players. I dont think primedice is like that, it is one of a good casino that I play with as a new online gambler few years back.Primedice is an institution in crypto gambling. I doubt they will cheat their gamblers especially for a small amount.
OP, welcome to the world of gambling where losing much is expected instead of winning.
Reading your story, you think everything should go according to your own way which is not.
Thats what I also think, he might not know the risk if you gamble your money.Reading your story, you think everything should go according to your own way which is not.
Well if you dont like primedice dont stick to it, there are many existing casinos that might suits you.
Don't question the provably fair, it was fair. Popular gambling sites are not doing some tricks here to cheat their players. One mistake will ruin their reputation so it's impossible for them to do that thing.
It depends if the gambling site is scam and just wanted to take advantage their players. I dont think primedice is like that, it is one of a good casino that I play with as a new online gambler few years back. I haven't gambled on primedice or stake for nearly 6 months now, and I am afraid it will go towards forever as well because of something totally different. To me they became a bad place because they only care about the whales and they do not give a F--- about people like me, they do nothing to promote their websites to people like me, there is no loyalty if you are a small gambler and by the looks of it they are not planning on changing anytime soon neither.
Back in the day they were sooo interested with the small time gambler than they attracted people who gambled even less than me, they attracted people who did not even deposited money and gave away money on faucets for free gambling, I agree that was a bit much but the same place who gave free money to people so they can gamble became a place that only cares if you can reach VIP level. That is why I stopped gambling here.
Why they must care about small bettor like you and most of us? The reward or bonus given to VIP or high ranked account obviously because they are the one who give much profit for primedice because they have wagered so much and also it will attract more people to come. Most of small bettor also only trying to cheat their promotion or contest by running dozen multiple accounts, which VIP won't ever do that thing Back in the day they were sooo interested with the small time gambler than they attracted people who gambled even less than me, they attracted people who did not even deposited money and gave away money on faucets for free gambling, I agree that was a bit much but the same place who gave free money to people so they can gamble became a place that only cares if you can reach VIP level. That is why I stopped gambling here.
I haven't gambled on primedice or stake for nearly 6 months now, and I am afraid it will go towards forever as well because of something totally different. To me they became a bad place because they only care about the whales and they do not give a F--- about people like me, they do nothing to promote their websites to people like me, there is no loyalty if you are a small gambler and by the looks of it they are not planning on changing anytime soon neither.
Back in the day they were sooo interested with the small time gambler than they attracted people who gambled even less than me, they attracted people who did not even deposited money and gave away money on faucets for free gambling, I agree that was a bit much but the same place who gave free money to people so they can gamble became a place that only cares if you can reach VIP level. That is why I stopped gambling here.
Back in the day they were sooo interested with the small time gambler than they attracted people who gambled even less than me, they attracted people who did not even deposited money and gave away money on faucets for free gambling, I agree that was a bit much but the same place who gave free money to people so they can gamble became a place that only cares if you can reach VIP level. That is why I stopped gambling here.
With all the comments coming in urging OP to show proof like conversations and deposits and the amount losses, OP is not posting anything or not yet, I hope he is preparing the materials or this will just be considered spam meant to tarnish Stake and Primedice reputation if he is that serious he should have posted this in the scam section, it will make the accusation valid.
Many times people want to express their frustrations and that is fine but when accusations are made then the one that makes the accusations has the responsibility to show evidence there was some wrongdoing against them, otherwise they just seem to be making up a story to fit their narrative and avoid accepting the consequences for their actions, but in any case it is better for the OP to never gamble again as it is shown he cannot handle it very well at all.
I think most of the people here will just say you are butthurt over your losses at PrimeDice and that is their opinion. I think this forum is mature enough to allow constructive criticism and people sharing their personal experiences.
My experience with both sites (The new site = Stake.com) are positive and they are becoming leaders in the Crypto gambling community, so it will be difficult for people to agree with you.
The nature of gambling is that most people have to lose money, for a small percentage of people to win money.
My experience with both sites (The new site = Stake.com) are positive and they are becoming leaders in the Crypto gambling community, so it will be difficult for people to agree with you.
The nature of gambling is that most people have to lose money, for a small percentage of people to win money.
Changed of view because in the long-run, OP loses too much.
If only you aren't expecting too much profits or winnings in a luck-based gambling game, you won't end up with an opinion like that.
Sorry for your loss. Maybe it's time now to shift career and forget gambling for good.
If only you aren't expecting too much profits or winnings in a luck-based gambling game, you won't end up with an opinion like that.
Sorry for your loss. Maybe it's time now to shift career and forget gambling for good.
Sometimes everyone has a sweet and bitter experience in gambling battles against certain sites, all the bad things that gambling addicts have experienced, including losing and winning.
Where every gambling addict has a lucky day and there is a day where he has to have bad luck, if I want to make a bet the first thing I do is placing a small bet first two times losing I withdraw it means that my luck is betting today bad, and vice versa if I win I continue and end when I feel satisfied with the bet result.
From your story that I read, I conclude that it doesn't seem like the Primedice site / management is greedy, your at that time it was unlucky to place a bet on the Primedice site.
The point: no gambling site forces us to make bets, all decisions are in our hands to place small and large bets, lose and win, whatever we do is only ourselves who determine.
I often see gambling addicts on this forum, when winning the site is praised and when losing streaks the gambling site is despised, greedy, unfair, loser, corruption and so on, I'm not saying this for the OP, that's the experience I saw, most gambling addicts have different characters and attitudes.
Where every gambling addict has a lucky day and there is a day where he has to have bad luck, if I want to make a bet the first thing I do is placing a small bet first two times losing I withdraw it means that my luck is betting today bad, and vice versa if I win I continue and end when I feel satisfied with the bet result.
From your story that I read, I conclude that it doesn't seem like the Primedice site / management is greedy, your at that time it was unlucky to place a bet on the Primedice site.
The point: no gambling site forces us to make bets, all decisions are in our hands to place small and large bets, lose and win, whatever we do is only ourselves who determine.
I often see gambling addicts on this forum, when winning the site is praised and when losing streaks the gambling site is despised, greedy, unfair, loser, corruption and so on, I'm not saying this for the OP, that's the experience I saw, most gambling addicts have different characters and attitudes.
OP, welcome to the world of gambling where losing much is expected instead of winning.
Reading your story, you think everything should go according to your own way which is not.
Don't question the provably fair, it was fair. Popular gambling sites are not doing some tricks here to cheat their players. One mistake will ruin their reputation so it's impossible for them to do that thing.
Reading your story, you think everything should go according to your own way which is not.
Don't question the provably fair, it was fair. Popular gambling sites are not doing some tricks here to cheat their players. One mistake will ruin their reputation so it's impossible for them to do that thing.
they always make a change but it was to improve the dice site and not to increase the difficulty to win .
how long have you taken a break from prime ? because when the time i take a break and go back in the game i feel the same but i know thats its only in my head .
no need to make a scandal . try to stay active and you will get used to it again .
is that what you believe before that when you use different coins your win chance will change too ? thats silly bro .
how long have you taken a break from prime ? because when the time i take a break and go back in the game i feel the same but i know thats its only in my head .
no need to make a scandal . try to stay active and you will get used to it again .
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I noticed that the altcoins game is connected to the bitcoin game, something that it should have no connection since BTC price is so high.
price of the coin or using different coin dont relates with the game .is that what you believe before that when you use different coins your win chance will change too ? thats silly bro .
With all the comments coming in urging OP to show proof like conversations and deposits and the amount losses, OP is not posting anything or not yet, I hope he is preparing the materials or this will just be considered spam meant to tarnish Stake and Primedice reputation if he is that serious he should have posted this in the scam section, it will make the accusation valid.
The game is indeed rigged against you - in the sense that there is a house edge.
If you keep on losing, it is exactly what is expected. The long term EV of you as a player is definitely negative and PD/Stunna does not hide that in the slightest. 1% house edge or less on a dice game is pretty damn good to begin with.
All the rolls are provably fair, and if you are paranoid you can always verify each roll using an independent verifier. If you no longer find gambling entertaining then simply don't do it - but don't go around accusing established businesses falsely without evidence.
If you keep on losing, it is exactly what is expected. The long term EV of you as a player is definitely negative and PD/Stunna does not hide that in the slightest. 1% house edge or less on a dice game is pretty damn good to begin with.
All the rolls are provably fair, and if you are paranoid you can always verify each roll using an independent verifier. If you no longer find gambling entertaining then simply don't do it - but don't go around accusing established businesses falsely without evidence.
Today I have decided to leave it and to come here and say very loud, IS NOT WORTH IT. Save your money, save your time, and invest but do not gamble. There will always be tricks that even if you see them, you will not be able to provide tangible evidence.
Yes, people do know what they use, they do see when they play a game, use a product, and especially when there are changes.
Stop feeding the rich because no one gets the money with fairness and will always be a trick to make you fail.
SAVE YOUR MONEY, YOUR TIME, AND INVEST BUT DO NOT PLAY IN THESE WEBSITES. I could go with more things that I have noticed but it would be a longer message.
If after you read this still decide to go, is your choice, but do not complain later. I wish to have found a message that would properly explain more to make me understand instead of finding only "scammers, it is scam, do not play....", but I haven't found.
So, is not worth it, is all I will say. Save your time and your money.
PS: Those who come to defend this and "attack" me for telling my experiences, you are sick and you need help to get gambling out from your mind. If you say something against this, they say that you are sick and need a pause but those who defend it, are never sick and they never have addiction. Those who will come and say, "oh, I won so much" but WHEN DID YOU WIN? I won too but was never winning. It was only my own money getting back. I cannot say this is winning. I wrote this message for those who have no idea about gambling and how is this working.
Well if you have found out that you do not like gambling on this casino or gambling in general then it is fine to stop gambling, after all many of us have always sustained that gambling should be done just to get some fun and if for you it is too difficult to accept your losses then it is time to move on, however there are many people that have shared their experiences before and you could have found them if you took the time to really read the forum and this could have saved you time and money. Yes, people do know what they use, they do see when they play a game, use a product, and especially when there are changes.
Stop feeding the rich because no one gets the money with fairness and will always be a trick to make you fail.
SAVE YOUR MONEY, YOUR TIME, AND INVEST BUT DO NOT PLAY IN THESE WEBSITES. I could go with more things that I have noticed but it would be a longer message.
If after you read this still decide to go, is your choice, but do not complain later. I wish to have found a message that would properly explain more to make me understand instead of finding only "scammers, it is scam, do not play....", but I haven't found.
So, is not worth it, is all I will say. Save your time and your money.
PS: Those who come to defend this and "attack" me for telling my experiences, you are sick and you need help to get gambling out from your mind. If you say something against this, they say that you are sick and need a pause but those who defend it, are never sick and they never have addiction. Those who will come and say, "oh, I won so much" but WHEN DID YOU WIN? I won too but was never winning. It was only my own money getting back. I cannot say this is winning. I wrote this message for those who have no idea about gambling and how is this working.
I never think too much about winning on every gambling site I played because I am playing gambling because of fun and want to spend my free time.
I do not care if they close my account because of my inactivity in every gambling site because I do not play gambling very often like other people.
I do not blame them if they change their algorithm or the sources on every gambling game because they need to update their system with the newest one.
It is our responsibility to search for the gambling site that we want and if we already found one or two sites and we played the game very often, we need to take care of our money and do not spend more than the money we can afford.
I do not care if they close my account because of my inactivity in every gambling site because I do not play gambling very often like other people.
I do not blame them if they change their algorithm or the sources on every gambling game because they need to update their system with the newest one.
It is our responsibility to search for the gambling site that we want and if we already found one or two sites and we played the game very often, we need to take care of our money and do not spend more than the money we can afford.
See the good thing is :
This is only one of the casino, you can very easily try and use some other casino. What I do not understand is why you continued playing there if it was not up to the mark for you.
1. Change your casino
2. Invest better
There are many casinos that you can indeed try.
Duelbits
Roobet
Bustadice
Etc..
Look for the casinos actively engaging with players and at the same time in the signature Campaigns. You will be able to get through your complaints and get an answer.
Well ofc no one should waste all their money here but most of the players gamble responsibly so there is no probelms regarding that.
This is only one of the casino, you can very easily try and use some other casino. What I do not understand is why you continued playing there if it was not up to the mark for you.
1. Change your casino
2. Invest better
There are many casinos that you can indeed try.
Duelbits
Roobet
Bustadice
Etc..
Look for the casinos actively engaging with players and at the same time in the signature Campaigns. You will be able to get through your complaints and get an answer.
Well ofc no one should waste all their money here but most of the players gamble responsibly so there is no probelms regarding that.
If after you read this still decide to go, is your choice, but do not complain later.
i read all what you wrote but before it ( earlier ) i went in primedice to play but i lose my money and no i dont complain because i believe that pd is a fair casino .They created a new website and another thing I have noticed, changes came on this website to make others to go on their new website. Smaller bonuses here (they lowered them even at the cheaper coins), changing the game, bigger bonuses there, and different website. Like this people will get trapped on two websites.
this is true and your not the only one that notice it but all the players in pd said this in the chat . they did that to gain players in the new casino which is stake but your not trap , you can transfer in the new casino if you think they have nicer promotions than in pd . Jump to: