Topic: My Thoughts on Bitcoin Adoption - I Could Be Wrong, So Let's Discuss! (Read 403 times)

It is not complex for a tech savvy person like you but to those who are lacking in technical knowledge, installing electrum, creating address, sending transaction and securing Bitcoin will be a challenged for them.  Not all people have the basic knowledge about Bitcoin and how it works and most of these people find it difficult to understand things in the beginning.  Sadly people give up after experiencing any form of difficulty since for them it is not a matter of life and death and their life will move on regardless they learn about Bitcoin or not.

I also agree that with the mindset I stated, people who wanted to proliferate the Bitcoin adoption, they must create a way where people thinks that there is a need for them to hold BTC.  It can be done by simply laying plans and creating places where one can have a real use case of BTC.

Education is always the key to knowledge and information dissemination. When one is educated, they are fully equipped to know the concepts of a given mechanism as the case maybe but in the case of the El-Salvador bitcoin adoption, I believe it was as a result of the decline in bitcoin price that led to their current situation. I could recall that they bought bitcoin when it was high and all of a sudden there was a drastic decline in price which affected their bitcoin reserve and since then it gave the nationals a wrong expression towards bitcoin and the citizens not too inclined are really against bitcoin adoption and that has caused economic crises in their country.

If these people are properly educated I  believe they would come to the benefits of bitcoin in the economy and on the other hand I see the       
El-Salvador situation as a political motivated one to smear the image of their President.

For me, a bitcoiner is someone who believes in and practices the Bitcoin philosophy. I would call an investor in Bitcoin a "Bitcoin investor" and not a "bitcoiner". The investor invests to make money, while the one who practices the Bitcoin philosophy is doing something else. It's not incompatible to be an investor and practice the philosophy; the problem arises when people confuse their values with their interests and no longer know what to make up or which enemies to seek to justify that their actions are not in line with what they preach.


Just Hodl and wait to sell and don't care about anything else? It is a zero sum gate by definition. Of course is not profitable for the system


I couldn't find someone who asked me if I would sell if bitcoin hit 1 million. He's right, of course I would sell a significant portion in pursuit of my personal and family well-being. It's not about acting or living like monks, it's about balancing personal interest with taking care of a system that is fairer for everyone. My point is that you can't pretend to a maxi and then run off with the money the minut it's OK for you. If you do that, you're a fraud (not for doing it, for talking about thinks that you don't believe in).

Thank you everyone for all your input. It's been a helpful exercise. Debating is fine, but for more concrete action would be better

I don't think Bitcoin is any more complex than the traditional banking system or the way fiat currencies work. One doesn't need to understand something well to be able to use it, and people use things they understand very vaguely all the time without worrying about it. So complexity isn't a major issue, IMO.
Then, to be honest, I don't get the second point. People don't share their fiat profits with others, usually, and yet that doesn't hinder fiat usage in any way. And it's not like businesses that adopt Bitcoin somehow make obstacles for the adoption of Bitcoin by others.
But I did enjoy the parts about El Salvador's situation and what can be done about it, so thanks for sharing your thoughts, op.

Bitcoin adoption is the most important one now,because the huge people are in bitcoin investment now.So their are huge possibilities of bitcoin to the next all time high of 100k.So to get that much profit,the early adoption is most important one.Panic selling in the bitcoin must be avoided to skip the good profit from your holding bitcoin.Bitcoin will become the most acceptable currency in all the shopping in the upcoming years.So holding a bitcoin for longer period help you get huge profit from the bitcoin in near future.

previous years people have only option to use paypal or e currencies like e-gold liberty reserve which already closed

so most of people now preferred btc and alt coins and its widely use

but there is always risk in using coins

Yes, you are right, fiat adoption is promoted by the government but fiat adoption doesn't happen overnight, it takes a long process until finally people are ready and believe in fiat. Now many observers are predicting that sooner or later the USD dollar will collapse and that could be the collapse of the fiat financial system. When the dollar collapses, you want to replace it with any currency, the result is the same, only paper

If people no longer believe in fiat which is only made of cheap goods (paper) then a new currency is needed that can truly maintain its value. I'm sure everyone would agree with gold being reused as currency, but how effective is it? it is no longer possible to use gold as a means of payment when viewed from its effectiveness, it is impossible for us to carry 1 pound of gold in our pockets to shop at the mall, it is impossible for gold to be used for digital transfers and payments while the world is now moving into the digitalization era. So what's the solution? the currency that supports the digital era and is believed to be able to maintain its value is bitcoin, nothing else.

But on the other hand, I also believe that it is impossible for the world to make bitcoin the world's main currency, the reason being that bitcoin is decentralized so that the government cannot control bitcoin. So I think the adoption of bitcoin can only be as an alternative currency, but it doesn't matter if bitcoin is legally recognized and used around the world. That's pretty good for bitcoin

My approach about new players joining the party is after knowing other people's wealth levels are growing with bitcoin, not financial conscience. I also wouldn't be a hypocrite if I did it in the first place, that's stupidity but a fact. So if you invite other people but you don't have a convincing preference, don't expect new players to come.

Or did society adopt fiat because it was actually dictated by the authorities, which then slowly became the first monetary policy in modern civilization that every country must have a financial institution to make distinct fiat and must be used by its citizens as an economic benchmark?

I think everyone knows that using bitcoin as a currency and using it on a daily basis will trigger faster adoption. But the problem is, who will do it? Because we ourselves are also trying to accumulate and hold bitcoin for as long as possible to make a profit, we have no right to dictate or propagate others to use bitcoin as a currency instead of holding it. Personal interests will always come first, no one is kind enough to sacrifice for the future for the community.

Many people say it sounds good but have they done it? Or are they also holding bitcoin but recommending others to use bitcoin as a currency?

indeed the adoption of bitcoin is growing, more and more people are opening their hearts to join the cryptocurrency world, for now most of them are adopting it because they want to save their money and get big profits. but if you don't have knowledge, even though investing is also very risky when holding bitcoin. therefore knowledge is very important especially if the money we use means a lot to us, of course we don't want to lose it, while using bitcoin as a currency, I think it's just a bonus and fortunately we already know it first

It’s never gonna be adopted as a currency though. Sounds like a wet dream for many of us, but realistically we all just know it won’t happen. There’s no way any government would allow this to happen, it’s loss of control, loss of power, how do you expect BTC will become anything else besides an investment opportunity?

Whether we like it or not, whether we want to say the truth or not, we’re all waiting for a price level where we can live a better life - and since life is currently based on fiat, it’s gonna stay that way and we’ll have to cash out too. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t cash out at least a chunk of your holdings if they touched a million dollars, you know you would!

Unfortunately, this is the way things work. We’re all in a race for survival and unfortunately Bitcoin won’t get you much compared to fiat. At the end of the day, everyone cares about the fiat value of their coins.

Yes, unfortunately, the big players take Bitcoin away from the goal for which it was found. They care about profits in the first place, so they are not very interested in whether Bitcoin achieves its goal or not, nor do they care whether mass adoption will happen or not.

The main problem is that Bitcoin has turned from an alternative financial system to the monetary and banking system to a mere investment and hold in the long term until prices rise. This concept was helped by the big players who manipulate prices to achieve gains.

If you have an idea that is far more competent for other people then it's best to discuss it, so that everyone has the option of trying to capitalize on it. Why do so many people HOLD on bitcoin because they talk about value and indeed bitcoin is one of the assets that is quite promising to hold. So that in the long term it has the potential to provide benefits that are appropriate and more relevant than the previous investment system and thus giving birth to trust for the people to keep holding on to it.

In life in this world nothing is eternal and vice versa regarding bitcoin nothing can guarantee how long it will last. But a little study by trying to connect the process of supply and demand for one product in economic law, there are many reasons why bitcoin is still the best choice and I think almost everyone knows.

No one can guarantee that bitcoin will be eternal and unbeatable in the crypto space or in investment, but for the next few years I am still quite optimistic that bitcoin is still one of the best assets. Forget about excessive complexity and fear, what we have to do is how to try to take advantage of it and as long as bitcoin can provide benefits then take advantage of it.

For those that really want to understand bitcoin and its source code then there is little doubt that bitcoin is a complex beast, but for those that just want to use it bitcoin could not be more simple.

A bitcoin wallet can be installed on a smartphone and it has the same level of difficulty as any other app, the only thing bitcoin asks besides the bare minimum is for people to write their seed words on a piece of paper and keep it safe, which is something people do anyway as they have to secure a lot of documents already, also using bitcoin is no different than paying with any app really, so if we are looking for an explanation about why adoption is not as fast as we want I do not think this is a valid explanation at all.

In my personal opinion, such a thing will not interfere with the mass adoption of bitcoin. Because basically bitcoin is an asset that can be used as an investment or can also be used for trading (digital based). So it's a matter of taking profits for yourself or passing it on to others, it's up to the investors in bitcoin. Because spreading bitcoin, especially face to face, is not an easy thing. So the point is it's better to just flow, no need to push too hard. Because I'm sure, even though bitcoin is not spread intentionally by bitcoin investors (bitcoiner), even so bitcoin will definitely continue to spread by itself.

And what do you mean by bitcoiner? Are they obligated to spread bitcoin?. If they are willing indeed it is not a problem. But if they don't want to, will it be a problem.

In my personal opinion, what are called bitcoiners are people who invest or trade using bitcoin assets, and they have no special obligations or demands to distribute bitcoins. So basically, whether you want to spread it or not, it's a matter of the initiative of each investor in bitcoin.

I think if you call bitcoin eternal, for me it is too much. Because we don't know what will happen in the future. Regarding perfection, I admit bitcoin in terms of the usability system and overall system, is indeed very perfect compared to other assets. And doing bitcoin hodl in my opinion is an action that is very profitable for the bitcoin system, because by doing hodl, the bitcoin price will automatically stabilize and if many do hodl, the price will rise. So in that way, indirectly doing hodl on bitcoin is very useful for the bitcoin system or for its distribution. Because if the bitcoin price rises high, I'm sure the news will spread everywhere, and will be an attraction for every citizen who sees it.

So, if in your opinion, doing bitcoin hodl is not profitable for the bitcoin system, in my opinion, your opinion is very inaccurate.

I was here since long time ago and i feel that more people get involved in cryptocurrency. even some people in my neighborhood ask me about bitcoin. for normal users, bitcoin is not as complex as you think, only need few clicks then the transaction is done, see there is no difficulty. just be patient, more and more people will join this community, our number isn't decrease right? once someone know about bitcoin then the person will tend to use bitcoin because bitcoin can safe them from fiat money inflation, bitcoin give benefit to it's users.

While I agree with some of your points, I don't think mass adoption hasn't happened yet. Mass adoption isn't a one-time phenomenon. It is a process. As such, it is gradual. Mass adoption is happening right at this very moment. There are probably people in different parts of the globe who are learning about Bitcoin as I'm making this post.

The speed of adoption changes from time to time. There are huge stumbling blocks on the way. We have to take note that Bitcoin isn't something that could readily be embraced. This is a disruptive technology and it's doing its thing in the world of money and finance. We cannot expect smooth adoption. There will surely be resistance, strong resistance. The world Bitcoin is shaking up is the world where power emanates. It's not easy to fix the money. It's where the elites get their power.

On the ground, it's a different battle. People are too comfortable with fiat, cash in particular. And they're normally apathetic to the rotten side of the current monetary system. They have some other things to attend to.

If I look at history, the paper money system was first used in China in the 7th century, and the fiat money system was implemented in Europe in the 17th century. It was a very long process until the fiat financial system could be adopted en masse. If we look at bitcoin, bitcoin has a lifespan of 24 years since it was first introduced to the public, that is a very young age. In my opinion bitcoin does not take as long as fiat because bitcoin was born along with massive technological developments, so according to my prediction the blockchain system (bitcoin) can be implemented en masse in the next 30 or 100 years. That may sound long, but if you look at the history of fiat money, bitcoin implementation seems pretty quick

I know, that what I convey is more of an assumption and prediction but the bitcoin community is growing day by day, so the adoption of bitcoin is not something utopian. Moreover, in my opinion, this is still in the introduction of bitcoin phase, maybe in the next 10 or 20 years bitcoin will enter a phase where bitcoin is used for transactions because many people already have bitcoin. And the final phase is mass adoption

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Yes, I see what you mean, and I also agree that it is a major barrier to mass bitcoin adoption. But I think that the community is an invisible force, when everyone agrees with bitcoin, the government has little choice but to acknowledge the power of bitcoin. I think bitcoin blocking efforts have been going on for a long time but the government failed to stop bitcoin so the bitcoin community continues to grow. Slowly bitcoin has started to be accepted in some countries, I think this is a positive signal for the adoption of bitcoin in the future

To be honest, I didn't expect bitcoin to become the main world currency like the US dollar today. But if bitcoin is recognized as a legal alternative currency across countries, that's a great thing and I think the mass adoption rate of bitcoin only achieves that. I agree with you that no country wants bitcoin to become the main world currency because they cannot control it. But being an alternative currency is not bad for bitcoin

I also agree with OP that Bitcoin should be used in order to propagate.  It should be continuously in circulation, meaning it must be used as currency, get traded and used as payment for services so that its use case will be established.  Holding BTC is somehow counter productive since Bitcoin usage will be in a stall when all people will hold and will not use Bitcoin for online transaction. 

Bitcoin is a currency that should be used to pay for purchases and not be held and keep on safe for a very long time.  But due to potential profit, people see it as an investment and hoard it to sell at a higher price.

It is a great idea to drive the adoption of BTC across the world but it will still be difficult for people to use it on day-to-day activities due to it's volatility. So it will be unwise for business men to engage in transaction that has to do with large sum of money through bitcoins, what happens when the price deep before withdrawing? Is it every money sent to one that will become part of ones save. Everyone need to keep the day running through their fiat currency.

What happens in situation when Network is abnormal or not working properly. I think the Bitcoin acceptance is growing mostly in the area of investing