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Topic: My transaction must get through (block size debate.. AGAIN) - page 2. (Read 1939 times)

staff
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Nearly all people who can be considered "Bitcoin experts" (aka developers) agree that Segwit is the way to go and that BU is flawed and has issues.
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Are you sure about this?

How many developers and "experts" think that Bitcoin Unlimited is a good idea?  How many don't?

Are you presenting a bias based on your preference, or is this statement of "Nearly all" backed up by actual numbers?
I invite you to do your own research instead of asking for someone to spoonfeed you the information for a position which you are against. Nearly everyone that can be considered a Bitcoin expert (i.e. wallet developers, developers of full node software, etc.) has given statements regarding their position with Segwit, Classic, and BU. They have either done so explicitly (in interviews, on forums, on Twitter, etc.) or through their support of Segwit functionality in their software. You will find that the majority of these people are in favor of segwit.
legendary
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Paying more doesn't solve anything. Under a free market economy paying more (higher demand) leads to more supply.

Not always. If the supply is inelastic, then the higher cost leads to lower demand.  Eventually an equilibrium is reached where the demand that is willing to pay the cost is approximately equal to the supply that is available.  Those that aren't willing to pay that cost simply stop creating any demand.

In Bitcoin world, supply (network capacity) stays the same.

Correct.  Without a protocol change, the supply is inelastic.  There are efforts to create an elastic supply (such as Bitcoin Unlimited), but there isn't enough demand for those changes yet for them to be implemented.

In the meantime, the demand and cost are elastic and will adjust to match the current supply.  Perhaps the bitcoin blockchain will only be useful for those that are moving thousands of dollars worth of bitcoin and are therefore willing to pay tens of dollars in transaction fees?
 
Without increasing block size, Bitcoin network is doomed (which will force me to alt-coins). Because 3 hour Bitcoin transactions are a non-option.

3 hours for confirmations aren't necessary as long as you are willing to pay a high enough transaction fee.  Bitcoin isn't "doomed".  It will just become an expensive luxury, and will only be available to the elite that are willing to pay a significant transaction fee for the privilege.
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Paying more doesn't solve anything. Under a free market economy paying (higher demand) more leads to more supply. In Bitcoin world supply (network capacity) stays the same.

Without increasing block size, Bitcoin network is doomed (which will force me to alt-coins).
Wrong, if bitcoins stays the same it will turn into a richman's club where having 1000 bitcoins would be a royalty, it also increase the price and filters the herds keeping poor and uneducated users out and let them swarm in those altcoins of yours and keeps the nerds, experts, genuine users in to the business, it'll become a very specialized cryptocurrency.

On the other hand I want to know that if it is possible to double the block size limit right now and same time change the source code to make mining 2MB blocks cost and require the same computational power in a way that doesn't invalidate the previous blocks on the chain or even an implementation to consolidate every 2 old blocks into 1 new block version like nodes needing to reindex the whole blockchain, but keeps the current mining machines functioning as before without the need for people to buy new hardware.
I know doing that requires a lot of effort and is time consuming but if you are a skillful coder capable of doing that and you want bitcoin to thrive and be strong in the future then you already have your incentive, either you all just talk or actually care to do something.
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Paying more doesn't solve anything. Under a free market economy paying more (higher demand) leads to more supply. In Bitcoin world, supply (network capacity) stays the same.

Without increasing block size, Bitcoin network is doomed (which will force me to alt-coins). Because 3 hour Bitcoin transactions are a non-option.
legendary
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I was this angry not long ago, when it costed me some 3$ o transfer quickly some Bitcoin.
But you have paid 0.3$. If you would have paid 0.5$ none of this would have happened to you.

Right now people can tell that the mined blocks already pay the miners good enough. I am curious what is going to happen when the block reward will be 0.
Luckily that will happen only in some more years...
sdp
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Launch both segwit and bu.   
legendary
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Nearly all people who can be considered "Bitcoin experts" (aka developers) agree that Segwit is the way to go and that BU is flawed and has issues.
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Are you sure about this?

How many developers and "experts" think that Bitcoin Unlimited is a good idea?  How many don't?

Are you presenting a bias based on your preference, or is this statement of "Nearly all" backed up by actual numbers?

staff
Activity: 3458
Merit: 6793
Just writing some code
When you want to send Bitcoin, pay a high enough transaction fee and you won't have any issues. Use a wallet that has dynamic fees so it will always calculate the best transaction fee for your transaction to confirm quickly based upon the state of the network.

As for a block size increase, there is a lot of technical nuances that have to go into making one happen. There are currently two proposals out there that have been implemented: Segwit and Bitcoin Unlimited. Nearly all people who can be considered "Bitcoin experts" (aka developers) agree that Segwit is the way to go and that BU is flawed and has issues. Unfortunately activation of segwit depends on enough miners signalling support, and right now that is not happening. Miners right now are tending to not signal any support for any of the proposals.
legendary
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Things aren't going to change anytime soon, store your coins for long time in hopes they increase in value and it becomes reliable to spend them in the future or use some other coin.
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Hi All !

Yesterday some of my transactions took 3 hours to complete. One of them is stuck for an entire day ! (and still incomplete)
Analyzing why, it seems to be due to block size limit of 1 MB, that is getting full.

Here is the transaction that stuck for an entire day (24 hours).
https://blockchain.info/tx/fa7a3e35921fbdf6090f11c2fa58a93627ad65f37bd6d7fd50796e42316efebc

What do you think of it ?
If indeed block size limit is to blame then I call for an immediate upgrade our block size. (or else The Bitcoin Network may become worthless).

-Technologov
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