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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 07, 2024, 04:14:11 AM

Maybe those people who have skills decide to stop working is because they don't get a nice payment/salary from their work or they want to search for a better work. So that is normal if they decide to stop working but they will find out the other work that can give better salary to them. That is happen in many places and many companies whereas many employee who have skills doesn't get a nice reward from their working. If someone want to have better salary, they must have skills and learning more skills so the companies will know that they have some skills that the companies needed. That will gives them a chance to be accepted to their employee with a better salary. That can also help their carrier to the next level and that means, they can get bigger salary than before. But it seems employee doesn't think much about them as when they accept as an employee, they just working as the other without think about how they can have more skills that can give them to get a better carrier.

In today's world, you need to be very bold in making decisions about moving to a new job.
You need to value your work.
But as far as I have studied statistics on such actions among staff, only in the field of development and programming do employees (programmers and testers) very often change their jobs.
Many are even ready to quit their current project and move to a new job for a $200 raise. And this is normal. Thus, most people change their jobs in IT companies once a year.

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Quote from: CageMabok on September 09, 2024, 01:16:17 AM

Nowadays there is no job that only relies on capital without skills because every job really needs skills so that the capital can be managed properly and not run out immediately because of wrong steps. And from what you conclude, it is actually very right because the point is to improve skills in trading and in running investments in Bitcoin so that the money we use for these two things is at least not wasted and runs out just like that because of our own actions that are not quite right.

I think there is but the potential is not good because you will be cheated by the manager and I have experienced this when developing potential in fish farming and now the processor has developed it himself. Even in trading, you can also use the services of people in trading and if I'm not mistaken, the Binance exchange provides it but back to what I said to what extent can this potential provide certainty.

In fact, we ourselves can do trading and investing independently so that the involvement of other people is not really needed. But what needs to be done is how someone must learn to understand how to do it correctly so as not to experience losses.

Quote from: CageMabok on September 09, 2024, 01:16:17 AM

This is a pretty profound and very meaningful analogy because everyone who just follows the flow that has been created by others will also not develop well even though we should not go against the current in the current market. Because this can only be done by people who are able to create different currents in the market, but for ordinary people who are struggling through trading and investment, it is also not wrong to see the methods that have been applied by people who have been able to succeed through these two things.

You are right and this is just an analogy to illustrate how someone must have the skills to do something because opportunities don't just come. The methods or methods used by people will be a reference for perfecting and it is not wrong to learn at all. Especially if it is related to trading or investment where other people's experiences will be used as material to perfect the skills we have.

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So you want "lazy" people to profit from the hard work that "hard working" people have done. Anyone can acquire new skills if you are willing to "learn" new things. I have taught myself a lot of new skills, by simply using the Internet and my phone.... "Google and Youtube are your mentor"

You do not need formal education and higher learning to achieve most new skills in life, you only need the drive to search for that information and finding all the tools that are out there for free.

Once you acquired the "basic" knowledge, you can execute those tasks and build from there. Example : Search on Youtube... on how to fix a specific car engine and then learn the basics, then start working part-time for a workshop.... and build from there, until you get enough money to pay for some formal qualifications.... and this applies to many other jobs out there. (before you know it, you own your own workshop or you work for some huge car dealership)

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on September 08, 2024, 11:46:30 PM

You say you don't have any skills, so how can you invest and trade in bitcoin because the journey requires money as capital. Skills are also needed when you are involved in trading because it requires analysis and even skills are needed when someone is involved in bitcoin investment so as not to panic when running. I conclude that it's not that you don't have skills but your skills are not that good so they need to be improved to be better at implementing.

Nowadays there is no job that only relies on capital without skills because every job really needs skills so that the capital can be managed properly and not run out immediately because of wrong steps. And from what you conclude, it is actually very right because the point is to improve skills in trading and in running investments in Bitcoin so that the money we use for these two things is at least not wasted and runs out just like that because of our own actions that are not quite right.

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If you only know the river and go with the flow, it's not an easy job because there will be a time when the current will drag you to the bottom of the river. So you need to learn to swim so you don't drown when you want to explore the harsh current and vice versa involvement in investment and trade.

This is a pretty profound and very meaningful analogy because everyone who just follows the flow that has been created by others will also not develop well even though we should not go against the current in the current market. Because this can only be done by people who are able to create different currents in the market, but for ordinary people who are struggling through trading and investment, it is also not wrong to see the methods that have been applied by people who have been able to succeed through these two things.

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Quote from: Usdcboss on August 27, 2024, 08:23:29 AM

I don't have any skills only high ambituous and good vision how i should live life.
Me i just invest trade and enjoy life becouse Im not interested of much skills and it's difficult for me to learn any skills Im not talented... Only thing i need to know how the river of money flows so i can go with the flow.

You say you don't have any skills, so how can you invest and trade in bitcoin because the journey requires money as capital. Skills are also needed when you are involved in trading because it requires analysis and even skills are needed when someone is involved in bitcoin investment so as not to panic when running. I conclude that it's not that you don't have skills but your skills are not that good so they need to be improved to be better at implementing.

If you only know the river and go with the flow, it's not an easy job because there will be a time when the current will drag you to the bottom of the river. So you need to learn to swim so you don't drown when you want to explore the harsh current and vice versa involvement in investment and trade.

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Quote from: CK485 on September 08, 2024, 06:56:37 AM

at least we have the will to achieve it, there will always be a way to achieve it, by learning a lot that is the most important thing in achieving economic progress, in acquiring skills that we can, but it is not enough, it must be accompanied by enthusiasm within ourselves, so that it is much better in living it.

The enthusiasm and willingness to learn in order to improve ourselves to be better in any condition including in economic conditions are things that must exist simultaneously and there should be no delay because time continues to run without waiting for anyone to move. We can see people who are late in improving themselves will continue to be left behind by people who want to learn and have the enthusiasm and willingness to get changes in their lives. So it is quite important to have these two things within ourselves if we want to have a better change for ourselves because now the one who can help us to be better is not someone else, but only ourselves and everyone must be aware of that.

When someone tries to improve themselves to be better, they must do it perfectly and don't let them not finish it which makes them not get any results from what they do and they must also be patient with every process they have to go through because there will be many challenges that they will face when they try to change themselves to be better than before, I am sure when they can do it consistently of course they will be able to achieve their lives better than before.

When someone delays to change their condition for the better then it will be very unlikely that their life will improve by itself therefore it is very important for anyone to immediately move and try as hard as possible so that their life can be better than before, because if we continue to delay it will certainly make us far behind and it is true as you said it will not be possible for other people to change our lives for the better without any effort from ourselves.

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Quote from: CK485 on September 08, 2024, 06:56:37 AM

at least we have the will to achieve it, there will always be a way to achieve it, by learning a lot that is the most important thing in achieving economic progress, in acquiring skills that we can, but it is not enough, it must be accompanied by enthusiasm within ourselves, so that it is much better in living it.

The enthusiasm and willingness to learn in order to improve ourselves to be better in any condition including in economic conditions are things that must exist simultaneously and there should be no delay because time continues to run without waiting for anyone to move. We can see people who are late in improving themselves will continue to be left behind by people who want to learn and have the enthusiasm and willingness to get changes in their lives. So it is quite important to have these two things within ourselves if we want to have a better change for ourselves because now the one who can help us to be better is not someone else, but only ourselves and everyone must be aware of that.

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Quote from: tomos81 on September 01, 2024, 06:07:20 AM

If one can move forward in acquiring skills then one can definitely improve one's future. Not only in this subject but also in knowledge he has to focus on which subject it is most important to acquire knowledge, if you want to move ahead in a bright future then acquiring knowledge is very important.

at least we have the will to achieve it, there will always be a way to achieve it, by learning a lot that is the most important thing in achieving economic progress, in acquiring skills that we can, but it is not enough, it must be accompanied by enthusiasm within ourselves, so that it is much better in living it.

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Quote from: Renampun on September 07, 2024, 04:33:51 AM

This world is very fair, I have a friend who has absolutely no intention of leaving his job, he really likes working with other people and doesn't want to start his own business, so actually the reasons for all workers are different, some are afraid to leave their comfort zone and there are also those who have a passion for being a worker.

Without workers, entrepreneurs will have difficulty running their businesses, so they all actually need each other, it's just that the role of the government is often overlapping and unfair towards the working class and entrepreneurs.

I think everyone will continue to do their jobs to be able to meet their needs because it is very unlikely that someone will be able to run their lives well without a job that gives them income and for some people who choose to continue working and not running a business of course they don't like challenges in their lives and of course the income they get from their jobs is enough to meet their needs.

It is true that some governments make policies that are not beneficial for some entrepreneurs and workers and this certainly happens because the government system only cares about themselves and does not think about the progress of the nation they lead, this of course will be very detrimental to the majority of society, if only the government could make policies for the benefit of many people of course this would be very good and of course would have a big influence on economic growth.

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Quote from: bubilas on September 05, 2024, 03:45:13 AM

Quote from: Usdcboss on August 27, 2024, 08:23:29 AM

I see that the way that There should be workers and not workers.
So If you are worker you mostly work and those who don't work will enjoy the life If everybody start doing this then nobody don't do it proper ways.

However, this is the right point of view. We have been taught since childhood that we must have many skills and abilities.
But are those who are jacks of all trades rich? No. These are unhappy people who feel the injustice of life, because they know how to do a lot but have no wealth. And the whole point is that you need to be able to earn money using assets. This is a new and correct vision of the path to wealth.
It does not matter that you do not know how to do anything, you have money and you can always find a repairman / cook, etc. It is not necessary to be able to do everything in the modern world.

I do not think you deeply understood the angle of Op's statement that " those who don't work will enjoy the life", is that not a wrong perspective of life? I wouldn't commend what Op said as a right point of view, not also saying that you're wrong for appreciating his points, but the fact that we all need each other to build a strong economy derails the idea of letting some people work and leaving others jobless, hoping that they enjoy being jobless.

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The level of ability of each individual has a very big difference, you have a mindset like a boss who wants to earn money by employing other people so that you have more time to rest and go on vacation with your family. Dalam situasi yang berbeda, anda harus memiliki modal untuk membayar gaji para pekerja untuk mencapai kebebasan Financial, namun bagi para pekerja yang tidak memiliki modal, mereka akan menjual skil atau tenaganya untuk menghasilkan uang.

This relationship of mutual need cannot be erased at any time, people with limited capital certainly do not want to continue living in hardship, but because there is no other choice, they must be willing to work hard in order to make money. For me, this condition is a beauty in life. The relationship of mutual need in terms of work has formed naturally, if everyone becomes a Boss, who will work.?

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Quote from: Usdcboss on August 27, 2024, 08:23:29 AM

I see that the way that There should be workers and not workers.
So If you are worker you mostly work and those who don't work will enjoy the life If everybody start doing this then nobody don't do it proper ways.

I don't understand what you mean because actually by working we will get money to meet our living needs and so on. Each job has a different system where there is an ideal time to work in one day. Work is required to have prospects for employees where they will work according to the applicable rules. If we don't want to follow their system then we should build our own business so that we can create our own system.

Quote from: Usdcboss on August 27, 2024, 08:23:29 AM

Those who have skills they should be working and not getting so high salary because that's the way for them financial freedom but we need skilled people to work yes they can rest and go holidays but mindset of skilled people that they try to stop working that's not accepted by me.

The job sector is different where there are jobs that require manual laborers, freelancers and permanent employees. For the salary issue, it will be adjusted to each job and maybe what happens is that it is difficult to get a decent job with a salary that is comparable to now. If people do not have the required skills, they are forced to become casual laborers who have slightly smaller salaries.

Quote from: Usdcboss on August 27, 2024, 08:23:29 AM

I don't have any skills only high ambituous and good vision how i should live life.
Me i just invest trade and enjoy life becouse Im not interested of much skills and it's difficult for me to learn any skills Im not talented... Only thing i need to know how the river of money flows so i can go with the flow.

You don't have no skills but you have the ability to run investments and this also requires skills in running. It is impossible for everyone to have the same skills, for example you have the ability to run investments but not everyone has those skills. So everyone has a different level of ability even though everyone has the ability to learn but talking about opportunities not everyone will get the same opportunity.

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Quote from: Usdcboss on August 27, 2024, 08:23:29 AM

I see that the way that There should be workers and not workers.
So If you are worker you mostly work and those who don't work will enjoy the life If everybody start doing this then nobody don't do it proper ways.
Those who have skills they should be working and not getting so high salary because that's the way for them financial freedom but we need skilled people to work yes they can rest and go holidays but mindset of skilled people that they try to stop working that's not accepted by me.
I don't have any skills only high ambituous and good vision how i should live life.
Me i just invest trade and enjoy life becouse Im not interested of much skills and it's difficult for me to learn any skills Im not talented... Only thing i need to know how the river of money flows so i can go with the flow.

This world is very fair, I have a friend who has absolutely no intention of leaving his job, he really likes working with other people and doesn't want to start his own business, so actually the reasons for all workers are different, some are afraid to leave their comfort zone and there are also those who have a passion for being a worker.

Without workers, entrepreneurs will have difficulty running their businesses, so they all actually need each other, it's just that the role of the government is often overlapping and unfair towards the working class and entrepreneurs.

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Maybe those people who have skills decide to stop working is because they don't get a nice payment/salary from their work or they want to search for a better work. So that is normal if they decide to stop working but they will find out the other work that can give better salary to them. That is happen in many places and many companies whereas many employee who have skills doesn't get a nice reward from their working. If someone want to have better salary, they must have skills and learning more skills so the companies will know that they have some skills that the companies needed. That will gives them a chance to be accepted to their employee with a better salary. That can also help their carrier to the next level and that means, they can get bigger salary than before. But it seems employee doesn't think much about them as when they accept as an employee, they just working as the other without think about how they can have more skills that can give them to get a better carrier.

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Quote from: dezoel on September 02, 2024, 05:00:22 AM

Even this is fascinating topic, but we can't take this long here usually peoples love to have challenging skills or hard skills because they feel these will give them better source of income even much time we have things which are having no challenge.

Still give better way of life because they are helping as well always trying to stay with technical or having things which are looking tough not works due to having mindset we stay we need creativity which is not skill, it's natural and this is surely can bring better changes with having some guides because it's always important for everyone to have things as he can use his mind in better way.

I do agree with the part about soft skills, I used to work at a company, and I mostly did nothing because my job was boring and just required me to work for an hour and yet I was there for 8 hours, but over course of years I became someone who has been there for the longest time, which meant that I knew how everything worked, while everyone else was either new, or at least newer than me.

So whenever a problem happened, like whenever things didn't go according to plan, they came to me for help and ask me what they have to do in that case, it didn't matter if it was work time, or 3 am middle of the night, I was asked even before the owner, and I helped, never backed down (except the 3 am one lol) and that's a soft skill, I didn't know what to do, I just knew what previous people did, and told me, never did it myself, I just told people what I was told and they actually were the ones who did it. I think these type of people are required in every company if you ask me.

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Quote from: Zoomic on September 01, 2024, 02:48:25 AM

-snip- I do not have any hard skill, yet I am still earning with my soft skills. Work on your soft skills and start earning with it.

Hard skills or soft skills are both tools to achieve success in your economy. But most successful people today are those who have soft skills. Abilities such as communicating or analyzing as a social media expert are soft skills that are very necessary to achieve success in this modern era economy. I do not underestimate hard skills because I also earn money with hard skills. But it is important for everyone to be able to master a little bit of soft skills. I have a friend who is successful in selling his products even though he does not spend much money on advertising. He uses his money to learn how to create good content and he can promote his products with the content he creates.

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Quote from: tomos81 on September 01, 2024, 06:07:20 AM

If one can move forward in acquiring skills then one can definitely improve one's future. Not only in this subject but also in knowledge he has to focus on which subject it is most important to acquire knowledge, if you want to move ahead in a bright future then acquiring knowledge is very important.

even with our hard the economy have become and even getting a job is harder than we can think and not everyone will have the capital for start up to invest in business, and that is were learning a skill comes in you actually need a skill to succeed in this hard times because no matter what you have to have means of earning, without a means of earning in this period then how do you go about survival, and the same way that the price of things keep going up the same way that the price of labor is going up, and if you go for a more lucrative job, if you save enough money then you can start up business for your self, so that when it gets to the point you can not work again then you just retire to your investment. and any knowledge you are acquiring have to bring money because that is what is need to able to buy your needs. and in universities now they have added entrepreneurship courses so that you don't graduate and be looking for jobs up and down, every country are trying to make their youths relevant to their self because the opportunities that education created is already closing gradually, because even the population of those going to school is much.

Getting a job is not easy for some people, especially those who do not have skills in anything, so it is very important for anyone to have a skill that can be mastered well so that they can have a job that gives them income to be able to meet their needs, because it is very impossible for us to have income without skills that we can do and to be able to invest and also run a business of course requires capital but not everyone has the capital for this so it is very important for anyone to have skills first and be able to do something that gives them income and set aside some of the income they get for their investment for the future.

Having good knowledge about how to earn money is certainly very important and also after having income from the work we do, we must be able to manage it well because without knowing how to manage it well, of course it will be very difficult to save and even invest, indeed not everything we get from education will be able to be implemented in life but we must be able to adapt to all conditions that occur in real life.

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Quote from: tomos81 on September 01, 2024, 06:07:20 AM

If one can move forward in acquiring skills then one can definitely improve one's future. Not only in this subject but also in knowledge he has to focus on which subject it is most important to acquire knowledge, if you want to move ahead in a bright future then acquiring knowledge is very important.

even with our hard the economy have become and even getting a job is harder than we can think and not everyone will have the capital for start up to invest in business, and that is were learning a skill comes in you actually need a skill to succeed in this hard times because no matter what you have to have means of earning, without a means of earning in this period then how do you go about survival, and the same way that the price of things keep going up the same way that the price of labor is going up, and if you go for a more lucrative job, if you save enough money then you can start up business for your self, so that when it gets to the point you can not work again then you just retire to your investment. and any knowledge you are acquiring have to bring money because that is what is need to able to buy your needs. and in universities now they have added entrepreneurship courses so that you don't graduate and be looking for jobs up and down, every country are trying to make their youths relevant to their self because the opportunities that education created is already closing gradually, because even the population of those going to school is much.

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Quote from: Usdcboss on August 27, 2024, 08:23:29 AM

I see that the way that There should be workers and not workers.
So If you are worker you mostly work and those who don't work will enjoy the life If everybody start doing this then nobody don't do it proper ways.
Those who have skills they should be working and not getting so high salary because that's the way for them financial freedom but we need skilled people to work yes they can rest and go holidays but mindset of skilled people that they try to stop working that's not accepted by me.
I don't have any skills only high ambituous and good vision how i should live life.
Me i just invest trade and enjoy life becouse Im not interested of much skills and it's difficult for me to learn any skills Im not talented... Only thing i need to know how the river of money flows so i can go with the flow.

However, this is the right point of view. We have been taught since childhood that we must have many skills and abilities.
But are those who are jacks of all trades rich? No. These are unhappy people who feel the injustice of life, because they know how to do a lot but have no wealth. And the whole point is that you need to be able to earn money using assets. This is a new and correct vision of the path to wealth.
It does not matter that you do not know how to do anything, you have money and you can always find a repairman / cook, etc. It is not necessary to be able to do everything in the modern world.

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Quote from: tottong on August 27, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

Quote from: Usdcboss on August 27, 2024, 08:23:29 AM

I don't have any skills only high ambituous and good vision how i should live life.
Me i just invest trade and enjoy life becouse Im not interested of much skills and it's difficult for me to learn any skills Im not talented... Only thing i need to know how the river of money flows so i can go with the flow.

Living life with too much ambition will not provide benefits and instead you will be faced with problems.
Bad mindset for the case of people who do not have a large level of wealth and following the river of money with the flow is a bad idea. How can you follow the flow if you don't know where the water journey is.
Skills can be improved and you only need to learn gradually to understand the skills better.

Everything that is done must have a level of knowledge so that you can go through the process to achieve success.
If the thinking is like what you describe in this writing then I am afraid you will drown on the journey before reaching the edge of the river.

Basically we should not give up on the situation, let alone just go with the flow when we don't know where the flow will flow. I agree with you, we must have a purpose in life, where we want to take this life, don't give up on shortcomings because we don't have skills. There are two skills, there are skills because we have talent since birth, there are also skills because of effort and hard work.

Actually the most important thing is to change your mindset because mindset can shape character. Maybe in the past you had many shortcomings in anything and even had no skills. But when your mindset is changed, you will feel an extraordinary difference. There are many examples of successful people in the world who initially had no skills but with pressure and persistence in learning something they were able to succeed. The point is, whatever our current situation, don't give up easily and dare to get out of your comfort zone.

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