Topic: MyBitcoin Claim Form Up! - page 3. (Read 5256 times)

surely if you except this pay out (49%) then you are agreeing to his/tom's terms ? and if the the other 51% turn up what would happen then ?
This seem's a lillte little hasty to me.

The wallet balances used in the claim process are incorrect and are not showing all transactions:

Claim Number:   19179
Username:   jasonstx
Current Balance:   23.46702715
Amount Claimed (49% of the above):   11.49884330
Claimant's Bitcoin Address:   *********************

however, blockexplorer has it as such:
Received: Block 138424 (2011-07-28 04:54:06)    1.85520678    23.46702715 <-- this is what they show on the claim form
Received: Block 139179 (2011-08-01 19:13:55)    1.86087979    25.32790694
Received: Block 139181 (2011-08-01 19:22:11)    0.58584642    25.91375336 <-- this is what it should have shown
Sent: Block 140060 (2011-08-08 05:24:37)    10.22       15.69375336   <-- this was done by MBC and went to 2 addresses already (guess as part of the payouts to others?))

My MBC address was 1P2S3SVJLM9Rt1o9GcfBZre2MTQybFP7qt see for yourself.

sorry if this has already been proposed :

After the claim process is finished, the wallets used by mybitcoin.com will be empty.

So, once this is done, I think that Tom Williams should make these wallets public, and
indicate which transactions correspond to the claim process. This should allow everybody
to investigate where the stolen bitcoins have been sent, and exchanges will be able to
see whether they received coins from these addresses, and whether these coins have
been cashed out.

Even is stolen bitcoins have been spread into multiple small transactions, a thief would
need to consolidate them in order to cash them out, either in under BTC form, or after
selling them on an exchange.

Doing this would also alleviate the suspicion that Tom Williams stole them.


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EDIT : the following is an excerpt from #bitcoin-police, from a few minutes ago :

williams_tom: hi. once the claim process is over, could you make the wallet.dat files public ? it might help people to track stolen coins
ThomasV, It is possible. I did read your post on the forum about it, BTW.
ok great
This claim process is just the beginning. A recovery tool is next. We will then try to disclose more information about the bad coin cycling problem.
williams_tom: do you have a list of stolen coins?
We just want to see some movement with this first.
if we could catch the actual thief, with the help of exchanges, I guess this will improve confidence a lot
abstinence, Not yet.
ThomasV, Of course. We suspect it was being liquidated when the price fell down at gox and th.
williams_tom: which date do you mean?
williams_tom: if you don't mind, I'll post your answer on the forum

Hello Tom,

It would seem that your claims are being filled from book keeping balances and that you may have failed to take into account coins that were debited from an account but not transmitted due to the theft. I attempted to transmit 1000 coins about 10 hours before you shut down. As you can see below I received the confirmation and my balance did show the debit. However the blockexplorer will show you that my coins never arrived at that address (which happens to be my main MtGox business account, called businessaccount1).
I fear that I may not be alone in this situation and that your simple percent distribution based on your books will now be upset. Customers who already received their claim will have received a hire percentage then those still outstanding when you add customers like me back in.


Respectfully,
 
Todd Bethell, CFM, MBA
[email protected]
[email protected]
Work: (949) 340-5438
Cell:949-394-5932
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Hello,

This is a payment notification from MyBitcoin.

You have sent Bitcoins!

Transaction Number: 245107
Transaction Date/Time: 2011-07-28 22:30:02
To: 18jsFKuKZ4w8mhdTYy9bZKKHmkZNSZrRUC
From: 19vKB489Lx1rxqS366f63mKDLXp6q3v3Ct
Amount: -1000.00
Payment Note: MtGox businessaccount1

Thank you.

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Version: GnuPG/MBC v1.0

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r9D6GXVPo5A4jXzgjtXTs2Rj2WmbLnsm2I8vc+fQFvniUiZT3nSbixVAU9wPm0w6
cTD8gNvEe+P9aNttZqGxa9xnCOVkE4ypF+n4jEmE/e3H5yh6Ix0oCI50luIeQZir
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Respectfully,
 
Todd Bethell, CFM, MBA
[email protected]
[email protected]
Work: (949) 340-5438
Cell:949-394-5932

Is anyone else having a problem logging in with their username/password?

He's absolutely not jumping to conclusions. He's not claiming who the btc were stolen by. But if you used to have 100 btc at mybitcoin and now you can only access 49 of them, because someone else took the other 51, then those 51 btc have been stolen... not really much to argue about.

I don't think Bruce is jumping to any conclusion without a great backing of information that seems to all point to that being the situation.

http://bitcoin.crimeunit.net/wiki/index.php/MyBitcoin has a lot of information

Hey Bruce, you are sounding a bit shrill. 
It is better to not jump to conclusions without sold evidence.

For people looking for places to store bitcoin, I personalty recommend: Trade Hill: https://www.tradehill.com/ or MtGox: https://mtgox.com/ as e-wallet services.

WOW, about 75,000 BTC gone! 

MyBitcoin.com USERS HAD BITCOIN STOLEN. They are returning a portion 49% of them to you: Not sure where to send them? CALL ME. 646-580-0022

It's not my site, I have nothing todo with mybitcoin except that im am investigating it with btcpolice.

https://www.mybitcoin.com/claim.php

Tom Williams is in #bitcoin-police on freenode answering questions if you want to ask him anything.